I've always found it a little bothersome that my conservative friends believe being a Democrat and Christian are mutually exclusive.

As if only Republicans are Christians.

Then you read stories like this and the response from the left and wonder if they aren't right.

The Huffington Post posted headlines as if this decision was nothing but supporting the Republicans when it is supporting Freedom of Religion.

Biden pleads for unity.

You gotta wonder who he's addressing.

Democrats are broke badly into camps and right now they're eating their own.

Boaz,

"Covid is just an opportunity to them."

To move America one step closer to full government oversight, control and dependency.

They are like children following the Pied Piper....or the Pelosi Piper.

I read bots outnumber humans online retail shopping 20 to 1 according to nbcnews.

People cheat...

It's the nature of competitive humans.

You think politics isn't even worse for bringing out the competitive nature of humans?

You think this election wasn't ripe with fraud? You're fooling yourself if you believe otherwise.

Voters show id when they vote in person.

You're not qualified to run around gathering people's votes on ballots and turn them in for other people.

You think a boat dragging a net behind is "fishing"?

People cheat systems anyway they can when they can get away with it.

I will say early voting likely pushed up the number of voters considerably giving people more time to get to the polls.

However, at least 20 million more people voted this election.

2008, 2012 and 2016 were all within about 5 million votes of each other.

This election over 20 million more?

I'm not saying I think Trump actually won...really...who knows...there likely was padding/cheating going on both sides.

Bottomline....mail-in ballots need stopped for future elections.

It can not be adequately controlled and verified for such important thing as a presidential election.

No...mail-in ballots and absentee ballots are not the same thing... stop with that lying nonsense.

Still not reading any posts in this thread....

Not interested...once I post here...I won't read any responses.

Trying to buy a ps5 on Walmart...put in cart...try to pay...site crashes...right when Walmart puts an item back in stock.

Why?

I found a site where you can buy a Walmart bot for $70. People are using the bot to more quickly make purchases and buy multiple items quickly. And then sell on ebay triple their money.

And you expect me to believe people didn't take advantage of loopholes/cracks/weaknesses in the voting system such as mail-in ballots and padding with people who are homeless...stay at home...haven't voted in decades...suddenly they voted this year...on and on and on....come on.

People cheat at buying at Walmart.

You think there wasn't people cheating their tales off this election taking advantage of weaknesses in the system such as no identity required when you vote and super easy to spoof the system.

Yea...they are saying republican voters aren't buying the results...

I'm not surprised considering the numbers are so outlandish.

btw...after I post on a thread...I won't be reading it again...

Not interested the reading hate filled rants.

My whole point is not overturning the election. That would be a disaster.

However, mail-in ballots should be banned for no other reason than the potential for fraud.

I mean...how utterly rediculous we have to show an id to vote in person which does have merit, but anyone can complete your ballet and it would be very easy to fool the system.

Mail-in ballots are wrong for America.

Early voting you have a month to get to a voting station. Get off the sofa and go vote if you want to cast a vote.

Apply for an absentee ballot if you qualify.

If we're going to contrast voting today to the founders, I doubt they would approve of voting by mail since they didn't even allow anyone to vote except for male white landowners.

They would strongly condemn this idea that someone not vested in the future of this country should have any say how it is run.

And verifying votes when envelopes are opened still doesn't remove the opportunity to cast votes for other people.

One family member can complete everyone's ballots in the family.

Or some misguided person believing they are doing the right thing might fill in ballots for a group of people like has been uncovered this election.

That is not the democratic system of government intended.

Whether you are liberal or conservative, an accurate legal election should be your ultimate goal.

And don't be deluded into thinking they will all be verified and handled with the same care and caution as in person voting.

There is a difference in how a vote is verified when the voter is present and how votes are verified after the fact in a assembly line fashion.

Anyone who would believe mail-in voting can possibly be as accurate as in person voting has simply decided in their mind a larger margin of error is acceptable.

Ironic that liberals are fighting for a method of voting that guarantees a higher margin of error.

Makes you think...don't it.

I haven't read one single post on this thread, however I do have a follow up to my earlier post.

The reason mail-in ballots should not be used is because they do not provide any safeguards to prevent vote stealing.

That doesn't automatically mean it happens but without those safeguards it could and of course will to some degree.

Mail-in ballots do not guarantee the person completing the form is the correct person.

Insuring the accuracy of elections is paramount to a fair and legitimate voting system.

Absentee ballots are handled differently and is as fair as can be done.

Early voting worked very well this election and showed states can begin voting a month ahead of time using regular voting methods without compromising reliability of the vote count.

Mail-in ballots will always be contentious just due to their very nature and should not be used.

Voting in person early or on election day and absentee ballots are the only methods I have seen that insure fairness and accuracy.

I don't think they were exactly thinking people would be filling out other people's ballots either.

Trump should never concede. He should never qualify this election as being anything other than inaccurate.

The issue isn't the supposed lack of fraud or recounts.

The issue is the ability of people to directly influence other people's votes.

The whole nature of pretending mail-in ballots is fair is fraudulent in itself.

The moderator can delete this post but it will stand all the same.

Clown,

I make you a promise.

I will not post on this site again until you are banned.

Clown,

"Shut up, Bill."

Ok...

Rcade,

The idea of politicizing masks was being spread on both sides.

Liberals would say, "we wear masks...conservatives don't"

and guess what happened.

My point is it wasn't simply conservatives teaching other conservatives to not wear masks.

It's was also liberal media telling everyone, "we wear masks...conservatives don't".

In that respect liberal media was part of the politicizing of masks.

You may not like the inadvertent result of trying to shame conservatives but I stand by what I said.

Both liberals and conservatives have been politicizing masks.

Rcade,

"He made a political issue out of avoiding masks"

You won't admit it but so did the liberals.

Rcade,

"He's the biggest reason."

I don't know if that's a true statement or not.

Trump reflected conservative views that other conservatives had on their own.

More than Trump, I suspect it's just part of thinking like a Republican and being more cognizant of the economy and resistant to shutting down businesses and such.

I will say conservatives were strongly hoping for a quick turnaround but not because of what Trump was saying. They just happened to think alike.

Trump could have been ahead of the curve a bit more than he was, but today I'm not really that convinced the virus would have been controlled. Held back...slowed down....It's just highly contagious..it's going to spread regardless. Even liberal governors eventually began to see they needed to reopen their states.

If a vaccine had come out already, then maybe the damage could have been less but it is still going and spreading today. Eventually we would end up being probably pretty close to where we are anyway or like I said we'd just have a different set of problems.

But...there's little point in focusing on what could have been.

Where does that get you?

You're just guessing anyway to make yourself feel good.

Rcade,

"Yet you had no problem making your own projection that it wouldn't be different."

I said, "I don't believe Hillary would have fared much better."

That's not exactly saying there would have been no difference.

I'll give some credit that some problems would have been less.

But it is unlikely there wouldn't have been other problems instead.

You change variables...you never know what you're going to get.

This is a deadly virus and touchy economy.

They are tightly integrated and changing one would have changed the other.

It is time to turn off SNL on DVR.

While I dislike poor losers, I despise poor winners even more.

I will not watch SNL cold opens denigrating and mocking Trump and just gloating.

It's pretty certain they will do that since they probably think they helped get Biden get elected when they should be thanking China for the virus.

I have a feeling I won't watch SNL for about a year until hopefully they get some writers and better cast members.

Rcade,

You talk like you think the only reason anyone disregards masks or is tired of isolating is because of Trump.

You talk like you think if Hillary had been president everyone would have done what they were told.

Hardly...Americans are individualistic and programmed to think for themselves.

Youth are even worse at being told what to do. Liberals especially.

People stayed home only as long as they were paid to. Money stopped...cooperation stopped.

You think because you adore Hillary Clinton everyone else does and will do what she says?

People are getting tired of this and is likely why we're seeing it rebounding.

The virus is spreading because it's doing what viruses do and even Hillary wouldn't have prevented or stopped it.

I'm not interested in hearing projections as if anyone knows how this would been different. This is a new virus and is not behaving as expected.

I don't care about what could have been especially if people are just guessing.

A,

You should read before posting.

I said I'm glad Biden won.

Trump was the first Republican I had voted for since Reagan.

I'm not stuck in one party mode like most sheep voters.

I got what I wanted from Trump. 3 Supreme Court nominations.

His behavior at the first debate was surprising. Such arrogance.

Couldn't he control himself for one hour?

I just don't make it my life to sit around bashing people.

He was under a lot of pressure. He didn't take well to living in a fish bowl unable to make time to recharge. The level of constant criticism directed at him was unfair at times and well deserved at others.

His lack of political skills caught up with him and the virus was a diaster how he communicated with America and medical professionals.

I won't comment on his handling of the virus because I don't believe Hillary would have fared much better. This is a bad situation and there is no way to have avoided it.

One thing has come out of this election.

The far left rhetoric will be put on hold. Defunding the police is history. The word socialism is now a dirty word and stacking the Supreme Court is not happening.

All in all...I'm pleased.

For the record I'm glad Biden won.

Or how about CNN?

4 years ago they were in a terrible slump.

Don't have much hope for them either.

What will SNL and late time tv do now?

They're the real losers without Trump to bash.

Dan,

"no one was trying to deny black people the opportunity to eat at lunch counters."

yea...they actually were.