Right,

"I've known a few preachers in my day. They all have some sort of showbiz ambition."

Sounds like you never really knew any real preachers then...just the storefront showmen.

Most folks can agree there are plenty of charlatans out there.

But don't confuse those with the ones who are doing real ministry without a lot of fanfare.

Snoofy,

You did list some of the ones I think are in it just for $$.

Snoofy,

"For me to believe you"

Why would I lie about what I believe regarding Swaggart?

Now, if what you mean is you don't agree with me...why would I care?

Out of all the TV preachers, there's only a few I think are sincere believers.

Swaggart was one of them.

He understand the fraility of man, being saved by grace, and he shared a genuine remorse with the world.

btw....if you haven't seen him play, check out Swaggart play the piano.

Would have loved to watch him and Jerry Lee Lewis (his cousin) play together.

Db,

"I've got two kids in their 30s. Their political memories start around 9/11. They and many of their peers are turning into democratic socialists. Capitalism sucks, and they are seeing it."

You appear to be saying that economic opinions are the only defining differences between liberals and conservatives.

According to Newsweek, younger people are moving toward the Republican Party.

Not because they love capitalism, but for other reasons basically watching liberals and how they conduct their lives.

Snoofy,

Nothing covering the face.

And they'll have to figure out their pray life schedules without any accomodations whatsoever as far as I'm concerned.

Lamp,

"Should the Ten Commandments be display in Texas classrooms?"

I'm not crazy about it.

And I don't want to see any accomodations for Muslim rituals or choice of religious clothing either.

Texas is playing a dangerous game.

Ok...I've got to do my stretches now been putting them off.

I slipped last Jan on an ice covered sidewalk pretty hard. My back and hip took it bad. I'm a very tall large man. A lot of thunk hit the solid ice. Making improvements. Another 6 months and I'll be pretty good.

Truth,

Are you kidding? Who doesn't love Robin Williams?

Lamp,

In America we live under the Constitution, not the Bible. You incorporate Biblical values into your own life out of choice.

(but you might be in for a surprise on Judgement Day...the Constitution won't matter)

my last post....

Lamp,

"And, specifically, what is that sinful nature that should be acknowledged?
A man sleeping with a man?
A man dressing up as a woman for performance?"

Traditional Christian teaching would say the Bible condemns both, same sex relations and cross dressing, based on passages like Leviticus 18:22 and Deuteronomy 22:5.

Whether our culture agrees or not doesn't change what the text says.

Dan,

"Did anybody ever notice? The folks who see drag queens and immediately think about sex with children ... "

No. What people actually see is parents forcing kids to watch hypersexualized performances tied to a subculture that has long standing associations with adult entertainment and even prostitution.

They're not thinking about sex. They're thinking what kind of parent does this to a child?

If you don't know why people feel that way, maybe you're the one who needs to get better informed.

Dan,

Jesus did make it clear, we're all sinners.

Homosexuality isn't being singled out while other sexual sins are overlooked.

It is true, over the years, homosexuality has been treated differently by a lot of people to the point they claim being an active homosexual and a Christian are mutually exclusive.

I will go out on a limb and say, I believe they are wrong.

Jesus wants us all to sit at the table with Him. No exceptions.

Acknowledge your sinful nature and ask in His name for salvation.

Dan,

"Why no condemnation out of Jesus' mouth?"

How do you know what He may have said that wasn't recorded? Not every word Jesus spoke was written down.

Besides, plenty of sins aren't mentioned directly, such as gambling, but are clearly implied as wrong. Scripture doesn't have to spell out every modern scenario to make its stance clear.

Jesus spoke about sexual immorality, and Paul was crystal clear about homosexuality. If you're going to toss out Paul's writings, you're not just trimming doctrine, you're removing the foundation of New Testament teaching.

Snoofy,

"You people say drag queens are a threat to kids."

No.

Today's version of progressive ideology is a threat to kids.

Drag queens are the entertainment keeping them distracted while they indoctrinate their minds.

Snoofy,

"Conversion Therapy for gay children."

That's fringe conservative territory.

Even most major evangelical groups have backed away from the claim you can "pray the gay away."

And mainstream medical and psychological associations around the world reject conversion therapy outright calling it ineffective and harmful.

That's my opinion as well.

Donner,

"You'll need to be more specific."

I'm not writing a research paper with footnotes.

If you want to fact check it, be my guest.

Donner,

"So you and GROK could find no evidence of Drag Queens assaulting children after they read stories to them I take it then?"

Actually, kids might just see drag queens as clowns.

But let's not pretend adults don't know what that scene is tied to. Drag queens are from a hypersexual culture, adult entertainment, and boundary pushing performance art.

No one said drag queens are outright abusing kids.

They're just part of the grooming pipeline I mentioned earlier. Normalizing the inappropriate by wrapping it in glitter and calling it "inclusion".

Donner,

Public schools - 4000 to 5000 cases of sexual misconduct every year.

Where is your outrage?

Clown,

So just to recap. You've decided that anyone who votes conservative supports raping children.

That's not an argument. That's you smearing millions of people because you've got nothing else.

Trump and Epstein were acquaintances, like half of New York's elite in the 90s. Trump banned Epstein from Mar-a-Lago after a single incident.

Bill Clinton, on the other hand, flew on Epstein's jet 26 times often ditching Secret Service.

Accusing everyone you disagree with of wanting to rape children? That's deranged.

Clown,

"Why are heterosexual pedophiles accepted by conservatives?"

They're not. That's projection.

Conservatives want pedophiles punished.

And if we're playing guilt by association, let's talk about your side. The left fights to keep sexually explicit books in school libraries, and has drag performers reading to toddlers.

As for Epstein? He was bankrolled by leftist billionaires, partied with Bill Clinton over two dozen times, and his island guest list reads like a who's who of liberal elites.

Trump? He banned Epstein from Mar-a-Lago years before any of this went public.

Corky,

I just noticed your comment was revisting earlier stuff....so I'm wrong.

But still not interested in anything you have to sell.

Corky,

"no one in the bible ever told you to make Christianity the Law of the Land"

You're trying to veer off into some weird, desperate tangent that has nothing to do with this discussion.

You're not making a point. You're just flinging crap at the wall and hoping something sticks.

Count me out of whatever else you're tossing.

Clown,

"The vast majority of pedophiles are heterosexual men."

Well, of course they are. Straight men make up about 90% of the population. That stat tells us more about demographics than risk to children.

If you want to compare rates between straight and gay men, it gets more complicated. One major factor is access. Gay men usually don't have the same opportunity to be around children in the same trusted roles straight men do such as stepdads, coaches, or live in boyfriends of single moms.

So just saying "most pedos are straight" doesn't prove much. It's a lazy stat used to score a cheap point without addressing the real dynamics of abuse.

Corky,

Not sure what your point is.

Trump called Project 2025 "ridiculous and abysmal." That's not exactly a ringing endorsement.

Just because a few of his actions overlap with parts of it doesn't mean he's secretly following the playbook.

Saying Trump supports Project 2025 because of a few aligned policies is like saying you're a Christian just because you think murder is wrong and it's one of the Ten Commandments.

Boaz,

"There's just one segment of liberals/Democrats who insist on presenting the gay lifestyle to children."

Let's be real. What we're seeing in public schools and progressive circles isn't some wave of gay men trying to "groom" kids.

Yes, there was once a fringe element in gay culture of older men chasing younger guys, often called "chickenhawks." That term has mostly faded because it rightly became associated with predatory behavior. Today you're more likely to hear terms like "twink chaser" or "daddy," depending on the context.

But whatever you call it, that's not what's driving the agenda in schools today.

What we're dealing with now is something else entirely. It's a class of progressive, mostly straight, atheist liberals who've hijacked the LGBTQ+ banner to push a much broader social agenda. They're not grooming kids sexually. They're grooming them ideologically. The goal is to tear down traditional values, blur every boundary, and reshape culture by targeting the next generation.

They don't care about inclusion. They care about controlling the narrative. And they use words like "tolerance" and "diversity" as a Trojan horse to get inside the gates.

To be fair, while the main driver here is clearly ideological, there are occasional outliers or activists who blur the line between inclusion and boundary pushing and yes, a few bad actors who hide behind "progress". But these don't represent the majority of any group, gay or straight.

Ironically, the actual predators, the real pedophiles, aren't loud. They're not waving flags at Pride events. They're hiding in plain sight, in churches, in sports programs, sometimes even in schools.

And let's be honest. A lot of well meaning liberals go along with this radical agenda not because they want to indoctrinate kids, but because they're terrified of being labeled bigots. They're pushed into silence by social pressure.

My point is this.

What we're watching unfold today is a top down campaign to remake society by starting with children. And it's not coming from the gay community. It's coming from ideologues who see kids as tools to remake society in their image.