Snoofy,

Dumb.

And it has nothing to do with politics.

Trying to make this a political or religious issue is dumb.

It's a matter of what is best for everyone on the road.

I smoked pot very regularly for over 20 years.

Yes...pot impairs your ability to drive especially after just getting a buzz.

It impairs your ability to keep your mind on the road and stay observant.

Really much like alcohol.

It's only a matter of time before a cost effective drug test is out in the field and people are tested for levels of THC in their system.

It's probably going to be legalized at some point but it will be regulated much like alcohol for the well being of all the people on the road who aren't high and depend on the laws to keep the roads safe.

If you can't deal with that, don't smoke.

Lft,

Oh yes...this godless society we have today is going so well.

Immoral lifestyles have led to higher stds, violence, suicide, single mothers, fatherless children, depression, drug use..

I'm done with your stupidity.

Lft,

You sort of prove what many believe.

Christianity had a major impact on western cultures especially America whether or not a person accepts the whole thing.

You were taught Christian values and believe in some of it's tenets.

This thread is pointing out that the influence of Christianity is on the wane.

Personally I am concerned for future generations who will be lost.

What will they learn and who will teach them anything other than secular values that blow with the prevailing winds.

Lft,

"I live by my conscience, it just so happens to reflect the things Jesus taught."

Jesus said, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

This doesn't overshadow the fact I still wouldn't have voted for Hillary.

Like I said, this election we had to vote for bad or worse.

I don't see this election looking much better.

Scary or nutty.

Come on man!

Really?

Alex,

I've been thinking about something I wrote last night.

Actually, the "cross" is a symbol regardless if you believe in Christ or not.

In fact, a person who reveres the cross should be careful not to worship the cross and not Christ.

There is a thin line between viewing the cross as a holy symbol and just simple idol worship.

The same goes for the Christian bible. I have seen Christians elevate the bible to the point it becomes an idol.

My point is as a Christian we are to worship Jesus Christ and not the symbols that go along with it.

Alex,

"it's hard to have shame when you think the cross is a magic eraser."

Just like Tfd, you don't see or understand.

The cross does not erase sins.

You have to believe in it.

Otherwise it's just a symbol you might wear around your neck.

And this trying to shame Christians is getting you nowhere.

Obviously you don't understand how they feel.

I mean..it's vote for bad or worse.

Take your pick.

Trump did play up to the Christian vote and the likes of Falwell Jr played along however any other time someone like Trump would have been a much harder sell.

Hillary was just out of the question for different reasons for some people who were professing right leaning Christians.

Tfd,

"The ability of the American Christian Right to abandon all standards and mores in order to "win" leaves me absolutely stunned."

I would say you're stunned because you are looking at it wrong.

What do you suppose should have happened?

Just sit home and not vote?

Or vote for Hillary? Come on...use your brain.

Trump got the evangelical vote out of default and not because he was their choice.

Of course you are stunned. The truth doesn't fit in with what you want to believe.

Sorry for the stupid post.

Reading both Snoofy and Clown in the same minute just does something to my mind.

You have to read them apart....read one....wait at least 5-10 minutes...preferably about 30...then read the other.

But, both just seconds apart!

It's like reefer madness (just without the reefer).

All this talk about chicken, me and the wife ate there tonight.

Chicken strips and waffle fries.

But, their honey mustard sauce has too much horseradish.

Hate and horseradish both start with same letter.

Does that mean anything?

American,

Inclusion?

As harsh as this might sound what Jesus said was accept salvation through Me by admitting you are a sinner or spend eternity in hell.

But love your neighbor is much more acceptable so you can stick with that.

Christians frequently use the phrase "hate the sin, love the sinner"

Works for me.

From what I've seen...I meant.

Jpw,

You're forgetting the atheist whiners who tremble every time a Christian teacher wears a cross on their lapel.

Ohhh....the fearful cross. It might bite you.

Really...Christians should modify their doctrine to say they are "required" to wear the cross like other religions get exemptions.

People drag out the constitution when it suits their needs.

But if I talk separation of church and state I'm a "whiner".

From what I've Christian teachers for the most part have long since accepted the concept of public schools not endorsing or suppressing religions.

This school administrator didn't.

Zed,

I see...so you have a personal interest to come to their defense.

Good job.

We're getting off point here.

It's not the teachers I'm questioning.

It's the decision of a tax payer funded school to come out against Chik-Fil-A for their religious views.

I understand the whole gay/religion thing is complicated and conflicting legal viewpoints are the problem.

I'm no legal expert but it just seems to me the principal was out of line and played to the politically correct crowd because it was the most expedient.

I am pointing out to you I am not faulting the teachers but the principal.

Zed,

"is that teachers are not teaching against Christianity"

Really?

How do you know that?

You don't know what conversations students and teachers will have about this.

The school's actions make it quite clear.

The anti-Christian message is there whether they intended it or not.

That's all I'll say.

However, I'm sure in that environment peer pressure among the teachers is likely a dominating force so no one would have been allowed to eat.

Yea...they were right to reject the food and not waste it.

Zed,

They should have just accepted the free meal and given the teachers the option to eat it.

It could have sat there and rot.

The message taught to the students would have been more constructive.

Once again we have a tax payer funded school system taking it upon themselves to make decisions having nothing to do with education and forcing their own values and morals and beliefs onto everyone else.

Oh...that's ok because it's the "right thing to do".

Is it?

Anywhere else other than a tax payer funded school, it would be fine.

They stepped over the line when they chose to not educate students about Christianity, but to teach students they should oppose it.

Whether you agree with Christians or Chick-fil-A is beside the point.

If they had rejected the lunch for another reason other than openly demonstrating an opposition to religious beliefs, again it would be fine.

Just shut up and eat.

Just wait and see what a year of being unemployed does to their mental health.

They think they have problems now?

Syc,

Thanks for the info.