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#76 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-07-01 12:14 PM
Like everyone else you operate under the presumption that this is about Trump. It isn't.

Read what I posted. Read the links. This IS about Trump! Trump IS ALL ABOUT TRUMP!

This is simply a thread to celebrate a peace deal which will result in fewer people being killed

Now you sound like Putin's b**t-boy Tucker Carlson... Again, read what I posted and get familiar with the subject you post about... Nothing in this charade is about "fewer people being killed" just because this sham is called a "peace agreement" - just as Neville Chamberlain's "Peace for our times" pact lead to WWII, not "fewer people being killed."

Don't keep embarrassing yourself with knee-jerk reactions. Try to read and think... before "celebrating."
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#19 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-06-30 07:54 AM
See. It can be done. Just pretend it was the UK that mediated this.

Or you can pretend that Trump mediated this... just like he claims to have "mediated" the end of Operation Sindoor (India-Pakistan skirmish) which PM Modi absolutely, positively rejects - there was no 'perfect call' and ceasefire was negotiated by MoD's of both countries.

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"We take the solar power that we collect from the sun with solar panels, and we take that energy and put it into a set of diodes that turn it back into light," Bhatt said. "That light goes into a fiber where there's a laser, which then lets us point that down to the ground."

Not a new concept - ask 'Willard Whyte'.

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#4 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-06-19 09:53 AM
This is just an after affect of Biden seizing Russian assets and giving them to Ukraine.
No nation can be the reserve currency and just take other Nations money because you don't like them.

1. It's not "Biden seizing", it's G7 freezing Russian assets / funds, most of which have been in European banks at the time (in whatever acceptable "designated" international currency) more than 3 years ago - USD actually went up 20% in March-August 2022, after G7 "froze" the assets. Euroclear alone is holding vast majority of funds, in euros, EUR195B.

2. ~$300B is a tiny amount of even USD daily trade / transaction volume, and it's earning interest until G7 decides what to do with it. So far Ukraine only received about EUR1B from accrued interest on these funds. Recent Euroclear disbursement of ~$3.4B to Russian investors was controversial, to say the least.
"If it is returned to Russia, it will be converted into tanks, missiles, drones, training of new troops. The world... must demonstrate that unlawful war brings irreversible financial consequences."

3. Until Trump started openly stating that he wants lower USD (to help US exports and make imports more expensive - "lower trade deficit"!) and lower interest rates (which would also lower USD value) - and to "make the US crypto capital of the world" (of course, nothing to do with his own crypto grifts) - USD was in range of 100-108 for ; it dropped sharply since 110 in January 2025 to 98 this week.

IOW, this nonsense has absolutely nothing to do with USD being a "reserve currency" and its exchange rate.

I understand you want to tie anything that happens here economically to "Russia / Putin have been 'treated badly' by the big bad US / West / NATO" and this is all "Biden's fault" but this one is craziest one I've heard.

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#8 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-06-19 03:13 PM
Expect more wars because all America has left to sell is weaponry - and its the absolute best but it's really all we produce anymore.

How so? In absolute $$ terms we are only behind China in manufacturing:

Manufacturing by country (2023/2024, in ~$$B, % of global manufacturing output):
China ---- 4658 (31.6%)
USA ------ 2497 (15.9%)
Germany -- 845 (10.5%)
Japan ---- 818 (5.5%)
India ---- 461 (3.1%)
S Korea -- 416 (2.8%)
Mexico --- 361 (2.4%)
Italy ---- 355 (2.4%)
UK ------- 354 (2.4%)
France --- 334 (2.3%)

Brazil --- 290 (2.0%)
Indonesia . 256 (1.7%)
Russia --- 252 (1.7%)
Turkey --- 215 (1.5%)
Ireland -- 207 (1.4%)

But wait, there is more! USA has much smaller population than China... and much smaller labor force... and US manufacturing sector now employs only 8.5% (12.8M) of US total labor force, while China's manufacturing employs more than 120M / 29% of total labor force! Yet US produces more than half of China's manufacturing output. Companies is other countries (including China) are buying what we manufacture, and companies here are buying what they (we) need for resale or for integrating into value-add products.

By normalized metrics, US manufacturing output is second to none!

For comparison, Vietnam manufacturing sector is 21% of their total labor force, Turkey is at 20%, Germany - 19%, Iran - 18%, Japan and SKorea - 16%, Russia and Indonesia - 14%, Ukraine - 13%, India, Brazil and Argentina - 12%, Canada, UK, Singapore, Netherlands and Israel - 9%...
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#21 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-06-19 02:28 PM
Netanyahu refuses to allow Americans to leave Israel.
He needs Americans as human shields.
Unfortunately Israel puts them in the middle of civilians.

"Zionist monsters" closed Israeli airspace for no other reason than to keep Americans in as "human shields"... because Iran cares?

Do we really need to keep lying to ourselves and make s**t up or repost every laughably stupid, easily disproved disinfo from eX-Twitter, Instagram, YT, Iranian and Russian propaganda websites** about Netanyahu / Israel / "Zionism" / Jews, only to feed confirmation bias and "keep the hate alive"?

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Iran Years Away from Nukes, Not Seeking Them

'Now, after days of Israeli airstrikes, US intelligence officials believe that so far, Israel may have set back Iran's nuclear program by only a matter of months, according to one of those people, a US official.

The article contradicts itself on so many levels - we're to understand that:
1. Iran is not "seeking nuclear weapons"...
2. But if they do... they are "years away from them"...
3. But if they are not "years away from them" then the Israelis have only done enough damage (as of June 17th) to "set back Iran's program by only a matter of months"...

And article's different unnamed "experts" say completely different things, some of them are "US intelligence officials" (are these "old" or "new / MAGA" officials, like "Russian asset" DNI Tulsi Gabbard ?) whose views are likely more colored by their attitude toward Israel rather than Iran's program etc. etc.

Real life:

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#12 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-06-17 05:12 PM
So "we" are at war with Iran now?

#13 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-06-17 05:55 PM
not even 5 months in and war

I am not sure I'd call it a "war" as much as it is [attempt at] potential "regime change" ... should TPTB "choose to accept it" and not TACO.

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#14 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-17 05:58 PM
A war he started when he pulled the Sanctions off of Iran... prolly as yet another favor to Vlad.

Vlad did congratulate Trump on his birthday, and used that call to talk about "dangers of nuclear war" in Middle East. Vlad asked him to stop Israel from attacking his buddy Ayatollah - which Trump failed to do - and just a day ago Trump was thinking aloud about Vlad being a mediator of "Cease Fire" between Israel and Iran...

Now that this plan went up in smoke and IAF and Mossad "control the vertical and horizontal" in the air and on the ground in Tehran after decapitating IRGC and Iran's High Command and Ayatollah in "hiding" (if he wants to know where his military leaders are, and vice versa, they can call Tehran's temporary local Mossad HQ branch for info), Trump changed the course and the tone from "We are not involved at all" and is running fast to get in front of the parade and take the credit for possible "regime change" that will finish rearranging ME in the right direction, without Iranian Islamists and Russia causing trouble.

This was offered to Biden more than once but he and his team kept blinders on and insisted on Israel / Netanyahu to "take the win" and continued to pressure Israel to make more and concessions to Hamas, who saw the weakness and kept stalling and changing demands... while Israel kept almost singlehandedly dismantling Hezbollah in Lebanon, Ansar al-Shari'a in Yemen, and al-Assad's Iranian and Russian support in Syria, eventually chasing Syrian Hezbollah, Bashar and Vlad out of Syria.

Biden could've been a hero and take credit, if his team had a little nerve, courage, sense and imagination. Just like he could if he'd ignored Vlad's phony "WWIII red lines" in Ukraine. Putin-Trump channel messenger boy Tucker Carlson is attempting to do that "one weird trick" now.

Had Biden gone with the plan A, we might not have had the TACO disaster "to kick around anymore" now.

To paraphrase Oscar Wilde, the only thing Trump really has ever done well is choosing his enemies. "A man cannot be too careful in the choice of his enemies."

Happy International Panic Day
Happy International Day for Countering Hate Speech
Happy International Sushi Day
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#12 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-06-17 05:12 PM
So "we" are at war with Iran now?

#13 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-06-17 05:55 PM
not even 5 months in and war

I am not sure I'd call it a "war" as much as it is [attempt at] potential "regime change" ... should TPTB "choose to accept it" and not TACO.

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#14 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-17 05:58 PM
A war he started when he pulled the Sanctions off of Iran... prolly as yet another favor to Vlad.

Vlad did congratulate Trump on his birthday, and used that call to talk about "dangers of nuclear war" in Middle East. Vlad asked him to stop Israel from attacking his buddy Ayatollah - which Trump failed to do - and just a day ago Trump was thinking aloud about Vlad being a mediator of "Cease Fire" between Israel and Iran...

Now that this plan went up in smoke and IAF and Mossad "control the vertical and horizontal" in the air and on the ground in Tehran after decapitating IRGC and Iran's High Command and Ayatollah in "hiding" (if he wants to know where his military leaders are, and vice versa, they can call Tehran's temporary local Mossad HQ branch for info), Trump changed the course and the tone from "We are not involved at all" and is running fast to get ahead of parade and take the credit for possible "regime change" that will finish rearranging ME in the right direction, without Iranian Islamists

This was offered to Biden more than once but he and his team kept blinders on and insisted on Israel / Netanyahu to "take the win" and continued to pressure Israel to make more and concessions to Hamas, who saw the weakness and kept stalling and changing demands... while Israel kept almost singlehandedly dismantling Hezbollah in Lebanon, Ansar al-Shari'a in Yemen, and al-Assad's Iranian and Russian support in Syria, eventually chasing Syrian Hezbollah, Bashar and Vlad out of Syria.

Biden could've been a hero and take credit, if his team had a little nerve, courage, sense and imagination. Just like he could if he'd ignored Vlad's phony "WWIII red lines" in Ukraine. Putin-Trump channel messenger boy Tucker Carlson is attempting to do that "one weird trick" now.

Had Biden gone with the plan A, we might not have had the TACO disaster "to kick around anymore" now.

To paraphrase Oscar Wilde, the only thing Trump really has ever done well is choosing his enemies. "A man cannot be too careful in the choice of his enemies."

Happy International Panic Day
Happy International Day for Countering Hate Speech
Happy International Sushi Day
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#4 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-21 12:11 PM
... tenet which Capitalists use elevate Capitalism above other economic systems.

"Other economic systems"?

Kind of like "democracy" being the "worst form of government except all the others that have been tried"?

Because in Capitalism there is "freedom."

If you don't like "freedom" - try using "choice / choices." All better?

... very few are willing to accept the truth that humans are not rational decision makers.

That's overly broad and really depends on circumstances and nature of decision making. For the most part, in the course of ordinary lives, most people do make rational decisions. Kahneman (and Taleb) provided very specific circumstances (economic, financial) where most people (95% ?) are uneducated, illiterate, or simply don't have enough time or desire to think of choosing differently, e.g., where they don't see a materially different outcome.

That's what their research into behavioral economics and finance (and they had disagreements on some issues) was all about.
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In 2002, he won the Nobel Prize in Economics for his research integrating psychology and economics, which challenged the notion that people act rationally. Instead, he argued, people's mental biases often lead them to make decisions that run counter to their own interests."
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Kahneman was ahead of his time. His research is now widely used in politics, military, economics and financial markets, e.g., Nassim Taleb who wrote Black Swan and Fooled by Randomness were directly influenced by Kahneman's works.

Some ideas in one of his books, Thinking Fast and Slow, were adapted into 4-part PBS series Hacking Your Mind that ran during COVID "hiatus" in 2020. Not nearly as good as the book, but was entertaining.

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#1 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-05-15 09:03 AM
... the 'expert' consensus was an INCREASE of .3% for April. So, the 'experts' were off by a full .8%. They deserve no credibility.

The numbers you refer are usually an average of number of "experts" who make them several months in advance, i.e., well before Trump attacked the world economy with the "most stupid tariffs" (that's according to even most MAGA tariff-sympathetic economists and "experts") ever seen.

The numbers, and the resulting "expert opinions", reflect much sharper slowdown of the economy than "experts" expected, solely due to businesses dumping existing inventory and volume discounts to businesses that rushed to stock on pre-tariff arriving inventory - IOW, caused by Trump's much higher and wider tariffs than businesses and sane "experts" expected. That's a one-off, and some prices for inelastic items will resume their upward movement, coupled with tariffs/taxes, while others may rise on demand shortages or drop for a month or two due to rising prices.

Then again, you probably approve of President who can not only institute what amounts to a "federal/national sales tax" of any size on any item, but also raise or lower it at any time for any reason (or any whim) at all? Trump lost whatever economic "credibility" he might have had even with people who generally support tariffs (for protectionist / "fairness" reasons), no matter how poorly economically "justified" they may be.

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#2 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-05-15 09:20 AM
Well I am SHOCKED. The 'experts' expected a rise in wholesales prices but instead, they were DOWN .5% from March. This is a HUGE deal. First, our 'experts' once again proved their forecasts are fueled by political bias and/or they have no idea how trade actually works.

Second, there is ZERO need for the Fed to continue holding interest rates high when wholesale prices are actually deflationary.

Again, you are using a single [one-off] variable for a single period of usually multi-months of economic indicators to make a sweeping economic policy statement / decision. Cherry picking volatile and "unadjusted for real life" indicators is "unwise," to put it mildly.

Also - first drop in 4 years - I wonder what kind of ------- had been running the show for the prior 4 years to bring such horrible results.

Considering the drop was undeniably caused by an abrupt and radical (and illegal) Trump's tariff/tax decision, contrary to even his economic disciples, we know who is the certifiable s**thead that is running the show now.

Here is just one of real experts, who successfully ran the largest active bond funds in the world (Allianz-PIMCO) - Mohamed El-Erian:
|------- "While quoting the central banker [Powell] verbatim, El-Erian asks if the concerns raised "Sounds familiar?" This two-word response by the renowned economist highlights how the Fed's messaging mirrors prior inflationary cycles and supply-side shocks over the years.

... [El-Erian is] alluding to the stagflation of the 1970s, a period El-Erian has frequently referenced in past commentary. He has warned that tariffs and trade wars risk creating conditions reminiscent of the Carter era, marked by low growth and high inflation.
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Let's see other, more relevant and forward-looking numbers from the same and next days' reports:
April's Empire State Manufacturing went -1.1 to -9.2, Industrial Production lost 0.3%, Import prices +0.5% (future inflation indicator) and Consumer Sentiment for May dropped to 50.8 (-26.5% Y-Y, -30% since Jan. 2025) - all were expected to improve or stay stable.

How is that for being SHOCKED?

Curb your enthusiasm. And welcome to the "95% Club"!
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NBC Cancels Night Court, Suits LA

Whatever little "TV" I see, the writing is atrocious, the sound is mumbled, and topics are mostly just boring and uninteresting.

The weekly game shows, as pointed out, became so expensive to produce in the US, it's cheaper to pack the planes with contestants and fly them to Ireland (or Eastern Europe) and back.

Besides destroying many suppliers, service and peripheral movie businesses during the strike, the productions in Hollywood are down by "existential" levels.

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#1 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-05-13 10:54 AM
This is what Saudi's get for giving the Trumps billions of dollars.

#3 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-05-13 11:07 AM
US policy has always been to let Israel have F-35 fighters but not give them to the Arabs so Israel stays ahead of the game.
I wonder if Saudi and Qatar have bribed Lewzer enough to change that policy? Israel is notably absent from this "tour".

Saudis are not getting F-35s, at least not yet. This is announcement of "big beautiful Trump deal" of the package Saudis have negotiated last year with Biden administration for 54 F-15EX initially and up to 200 overall, to add, replace and refit aging Saudi fleet of F-15SR.

Qatar AF was the first to use F-15EX under F-15QA name.

It's a hot item and the F-15EX wait list includes Qatar, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Japan, SoKorea, Indonesia, Singapore, Thailand...

There is also a grab bag of possible development of nuclear plants, AI, "tourism and leisure projects" etc., so the figures of "deals" will be as inflated as possible.

"Man of Peace" Trump, who pines for Nobel Peace Prize, wants Saudis to join Abraham Accords and negotiate some kind of "deal" with Iran, which became more difficult since his idiotic tariffs and bluster openly "united" China, Russia and Iran (after 50 years of 'Kissinger Doctrine' of keeping China and USSR/Russia antagonistic, which led to USSR's fall - "keep your enemies closer") against now common adversary / enemy.

Trump doesn't care about consequences as long as he can stay out of jail and stuff his pockets with as much money as possible and set up himself and his family in positions of power and free flow of "brand" royalties, dividends and fees from crypto and "brand" licensing.
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#12 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-05-10 10:40 PM
Anyone with 'sticker shock' is the reason why the American economy is where it is today...

Reason for what? And "sticker shock" (inflation) is directly due to Trump-45+Biden+Congress throwing money at the economy and Trump's tariffs.

Just like US agriculture employment went from ~50% of US labor force in 1870 to ~33% in 1900 to ~1.5% in 2023, while supplying the nation with almost everything the population needs and significant exports to other countries (including China) who find their product desirable, the US manufacturing employment was reduced by automation (not "offshoring") while providing most of what the US needs and having significant exports of finished goods. Along with almost a third of $1T in accompanying service "trade surplus" to other countries.

Peak of manufacturing employment in 1970s - 19.5M people in 1979, 33% of labor force - was producing ~11% of real GDP (how is that for "efficiency / productivity"?); now 12.8M people in manufacturing account for 8.5% of labor force and is responsible for ~11% of real GDP, but is likely to slide lower still. Economies adjust for efficiency and productivity through automation and/or outsourcing when the costs of domestic production become untenable - IOW, when US labor "prices themselves out of the market."

"Money goes where it's welcome, and stays and multiplies where it's respected and appreciated."

Building a "Berlin Wall" trough tariffs doesn't work - we already saw predictable results here. "Industrial policy" doesn't work either - ask Biden.

No one is crying to "bring agriculture home" anymore but both left and right phony "populists" promise to "bring manufacturing home" to end "offshoring" because we have "empty factory towns" that couldn't adjust because they are not needed any more for various reasons, including younger population moving to city-centers for better education and service / professional jobs. It's not like we have a high unemployment because of "offshoring" - country has long moved on to service economy because "manu-facturing" (Latin: manufactura = making by hand) has been largely automated.

In 1960s computers were much more expensive than human labor; since 1980s human labor (union labor, in particular) became increasingly much more expensive relative to automation needed to produce better or higher quality output - hence, Third Industrial Revolution. **

Lutnick's "army of millions and millions of human beings screwing in little screws to make iPhones - that kind of thing is going to come to America" is not "coming to America" - it's a fantasy in the times long past by the "globalism deniers" and believers in Trump Org "Central Committee economic planning" - it plays on the voters' economic illiteracy and ignorance of history, and party-line bros in particular, who put the "blame" on one or the other party / President / "the rich / elite" / "greed" for natural progress and adoption of technology, inventions and ingenuity.

No one is forcing you to buy "cheap crap" from China or any other country, you can still buy ugly expensive Cybertruck (65% built in US and Canada, 25% in Mexico, was planned for 80+% in Mexico Gigafactory but paused because... "Trump. will. fix. it") or any other "expensive crap" from anywhere. No one talked about being "ripped off" by availability of Japanese "cheap crap" from Epson, Citizen, Sanyo electronics or watches instead of US brands or expensive "high-precision" Swiss watches.

The worst monsters offer you the best dreams... Then you wake up.
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#10 | Posted by chiligordo at 2025-05-03 06:20 PM
Short term pain for long term gain.

Pain is obvious. What makes you think it's only short term? Because we'll get used to it, so won't feel it as much?

1. What exactly would constitute "long term gain" (even if achievable by businesses-killing, inflationary tariffs) because Trump has not defined it.
2. Expect about as much "long term gain" from Trump as was promised by his numerous failed businesses, including first DJT public company.

The trade deficits and resulting debt must be addressed or else Americans will end up picking cotton on Chinese-owned plantations.

This is nonsense - "[national] trade deficits" don't result in fiscal deficits and debt - you're conflating different things: real, government fiscal / budget deficits (government spending and having to borrow more money than it brings in from various sources) with purely statistical "[national] trade deficits / surpluses" (balance of trade, i.e., buying and selling goods and services by people and businesses who happen to live in "other" countries, mostly unencumbered by protectionist tariffs) - that's just parroting our seriously economically illiterate Influencer-in-Chief.

In fact, "[national] trade deficits" actually allowed / subsidized disinflationary expansion of our economic growth and helped finance fiscal budget deficits, and firmed up USD as world's "reserve currency" through non-inflationary growth of US money supply. Trade "deficits" is a non-issue, a "fake problem":

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#6 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-24 06:39 PM
China's economy is collapsing and the speculation inside the country is that Xi may lose control of the CCP.

Chinese economy has been "collapsing" for years, because of failed BRI and wild overinvestment in real estate and what are now "ghost cities" - not unlike our poor investments in "manufacturing infrastructure."

In the latest move, countries like Vietnam are ending the Chinese trans-shipments to hide the true country of origin.

Korean and Chinese-owned factories in North Vietnam, like Goertek, Luxshare, etc., are already part of Apple's supply chain and didn't need to "hide country of origin." India couldn't ramp up and has much higher manufacturing costs.

#12 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-24 08:02 PM
... due to the Chinese economic collapse kicked off by Trump's tariffs his first time around.

... Hard facts - China has already lost the trade war. The latest news is Foxconn moving their iPhone manufacturing to India and Vietnam causing a few million more Chinese to lose their jobs.

Apple and Hon Hai/Foxconn have been trying to move their supply chain and manufacturing to India, Vietnam and elsewhere for years. If you've ever been to Shenzhen (China's 'Silicon Valley') and seen Foxconn's factories, they are highly automated and there aren't "millions of Chinese" working there. Foxconn - Taiwanese co, and world's largest EMS, dwarfing (3x) 3 largest US + 1 Canadian EMS combined - has been replacing iPhone factory in Shenzhen with other customers.

US farmers lost soy and sorghum sales (again), since China can easily source them from Brazil and Argentina. China is now buying LNG from Russia instead of US.

Millions of US jobs are at stake as VARs/VADs are or will be closing their shops if they can't replenish their inventories with Chinese or other cheap enough components.

Hard fact is that everybody loses from trade wars, but the US has most to lose, including trust, good will, and USD status as "reserve currency."

If China already "lost" why are CEOs of S&P500 asking Trump to stop it? Why is Charlie Gasparino **, Fox biz commentator and NYPost columnist, saying we lost it, and begging Trump to save face by "declaring victory" and back off trade wars?

But, due to your blind hatred of Trump - you can't seem to understand these things. Doesn't matter - reality is reality regardless of how much your plug your ears and bury your head in the sand.

That's "Apprentice" TV version. Reality: replace "blind hatred" with "blind adulation of 'golden calf' Trump" and you'll be on right track.

Can you explain what is the end goal of the stupid tariffs, and what "winning" trade wars in global economy looks like? Because Trump didn't, except saying that "America was treated very badly and was taken advantage of" which is economically illiterate and literally and figuratively stupid.

Far from playing 3D/4D chess, Trump is can't see beyond his half-moves. Peter Navarro and Stephen Miran are the same kind of economic charlatans, claiming "new financial theories" as Stephanie Kelton (Bernie's/Biden's economic guru) was with her "MMT doesn't cause inflation and deficits don't matter."

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#4 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-04-24 01:43 PM
I was a bit surprised that this blatant attempt at propaganda was not headline news for a week. But it was buried under a mountain of his lies so it's understandable. It was briefly mentioned then just as quickly forgotten. Just one more example of probably thousands of his blatant lies to the American people he has made in the first 100 days.

So many lies and "headlines" - so little time to cover, process and remember them all.