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#3 | Posted by censored at 2025-08-15 11:27 PM
Trump putting on a show that he's not Putin's Beach.

He's been keeping keyfabe of "successful businessman" and "strong leader" for a very long time, it's wearing off.

"Krasnov" ("Red") Trump has been trying to Make Russia Great Again since at least 1987.

Business projects of Donald Trump in Russia | Trump - Russia relations


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#14 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-08-12 03:05 PM
No tariffs and 500 billion invested in the US

That's just another "pacifier" to baby-bully, who needs constant affirmation of his "deal-making greatness"... Apple's total annual capex for 2025 TTM was ~$12.4B including spending outside the US, which will continue.

To get to $500B will take 40 years of non-inflation-adjusted dollars, or 5 years of foregoing annual profits ($99B TTM to date). Of course, with new Trump-induced lower short-term interest rates, higher inflation and policy of weaker ruble, er, US dollar, this may come much sooner.

IOW, "Art of the Con" artist Trump is ---------- us, and Apple and those who depend/relied on NORMAL economic relations with the US are just playing along and for time, until "This, too, shall pass". Trump (and MAGA cult) didn't even understand the backhanded slap in the face when Tim "Apple" Cook presented him with the "golden calf"... er, plaque.

Same with the countries and blocks he made supposed "deals" with, e.g., Japan ($550B) and Korea ($350B) - they don't know what he was bragging about: there was only specific commitments to buy $16.5B worth of US goods, the rest was vague promises of "investment" in loans and IOUs ... and there was nothing about "90% of 'profits' going to the US" ... and nothing was formalized, of course.

Some countries make "deals" only to lower "tariff rates" (taxes on Americans), others don't, but every one is waiting and hoping for lawsuits in US courts to strike tariff authority down.

And as far as "not causing inflation" - remember that companies pay tariffs to Treasury immediately and they did inventory front-running, so we didn't see increases in the consumer pipeline yet... but core CPI moved up at fastest pace in 6mos to annualized 3.1%, and the latest PPI / wholesale core and headline numbers hit 0.9% for July - far above 0.2% expected, most of which will be passed along to consumers and some possibly absorbed by the companies while they are cutting tariff costs by layoffs and automation. So we have both weakening economy and employment, and rising prices - consistent with some forecasts of what was called "stagflation" in the '70s.

And some tariffs increased on August 7, so we haven't seen the effects of that yet.

Something that Trump doesn't [want to] understand : money from tariffs is not "flowing into the US" from other countries - they are paid/transferred to Treasury from American businesses / importers - IOW, it's an internal tax on imports, which was about 13.5% of US economy in recent years. Exports, which represent about 30+% of revenue by S&P 500 companies may also shrink as consumers of other countries "buy local" and boycott American goods if there are alternatives. Las Vegas and other tourist destinations already see some of it.

In July 2025, 71 large US companies filed for bankruptcy. Year-to-date 446 bankruptcies, already surpassing full year totals for 2021, 70 of them in the industrial sector.

IOW, Trump's tariffs may reduce meaningless metric of "US trade deficits" ("Yay, success!") but they are also shrinking world trade... and economies, including the US... which you may not see clearly due to lower USD.

Oh what a tangled web we "weave"...

And CBO projection of One Big Bloody Bu**-Ugly Bill creating additional $3.5T in debt in the next 10 years? I think we can do "better" and do it in 3-4 years, despite all of the imagined DOGE "savings" and "trillions or hundreds of billions of dollars flowing in" in tariffs.

US deficit hit $291B in July - that's an annual pace of $3.5T. July tariffs brought in $25B - Trump called it "incredible revenue" - but the government spent $630B.

"It's the spending, stupid."
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#14 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-08-12 03:05 PM
No tariffs and 500 billion invested in the US

That's just another "pacifier" to baby-bully, who needs constant affirmation of his "deal-making greatness"... Apple's total annual capex for 2025 TTM was ~$12.4B including spending outside the US, which will continue.

To get to $500B will take 40 years of non-inflation-adjusted dollars, or 5 years of foregoing annual profits ($99B TTM to date). Of course, with new Trump-induced lower short-term interest rates, higher inflation and policy of weaker ruble, er, US dollar, this may come much sooner.

IOW, "Art of the Con" artist Trump is ---------- us, and Apple and those who depend/relied on NORMAL economic relations with the US are just playing along and for time, until "This, too, shall pass". Trump (and MAGA cult) didn't even understand the backhanded slap in the face when Tim "Apple" Cook presented him with the "golden calf"... er, plaque.

Same with the countries and blocks he made supposed "deals" with, e.g., Japan ($550B) and Korea ($350B) - they don't know what he was bragging about: there was only specific commitments to buy $16.5B worth of US goods, the rest was vague promises of "investment" in loans and IOUs ... and there was nothing about "90% of 'profits' going to the US" ... and nothing was formalized, of course.

Some countries make "deals" only to lower "tariff rates" (taxes on Americans), others don't, but every one is waiting and hoping for lawsuits in US courts to strike tariff authority down.

And as far as "not causing inflation" - remember that companies pay tariffs to Treasury immediately and they did inventory front-running, so we didn't see increases in the consumer pipeline yet... but core CPI moved up at fastest pace in 6mos to annualized 3.1%, and the latest PPI / wholesale core and headline numbers hit 0.9% for July - far above 0.2% expected, most of which will be passed along to consumers and some possibly absorbed by the companies while they are cutting tariff costs by layoffs and automation. So we have both weakening economy and employment, and rising prices - consistent with some forecasts of what was called "stagflation" in the '70s.

And some tariffs increased on August 7, so we haven't seen the effects of that yet.

Something that Trump doesn't [want to] understand : money from tariffs is not "flowing into the US" from other countries - they are paid/transferred to Treasury from American businesses / importers - IOW, it's an internal tax on imports, which was about 13.5% of US economy in recent years. Exports, which represent about 30+% of revenue by S&P 500 companies may also shrink as consumers of other countries "buy local" and boycott American goods if there are alternatives. Las Vegas and other tourist destinations already see some of it.

In July 2025, 71 large US companies filed for bankruptcy. Year-to-date 446 bankruptcies, already surpassing full year totals for 2021, 70 of them in the industrial sector.

IOW, Trump's tariffs may reduce meaningless metric of "US trade deficits" ("Yay, success!") but they are also shrinking world trade... and economies, including the US... which you may not see clearly due to lower USD.

Oh what a tangled web we "weave"...

And CBO projection of One Big Bloody Bu**-Ugly Bill creating additional $3.5T in debt in the next 10 years? I think we can do "better" and do it in 3-4 years, despite all of the imagined DOGE "savings" and "trillions or hundreds of billions of dollars flowing in" in tariffs.

US deficit hit $291B in July - that's an annual pace of $3.5T. July tariffs brought in $25B - Trump called it "incredible revenue" - but the government spent $630B.

"It's the spending, stupid."
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#14 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-08-12 03:05 PM
No tariffs and 500 billion invested in the US

That's just another "pacifier" to baby-bully, who needs constant affirmation of his "deal-making greatness"... Apple's total annual capex for 2025 TTM was ~$12.4B including spending outside the US, which will continue.

To get to $500B will take 40 years of non-inflation-adjusted dollars, or 5 years of foregoing annual profits ($99B TTM to date). Of course, with new Trump-induced lower short-term interest rates, higher inflation and policy of weaker ruble, er, US dollar, this may come much sooner.

IOW, "Art of the Con" artist Trump is ---------- us, and Apple and those who depend/relied on NORMAL economic relations with the US are just playing along and for time, until "This, too, shall pass". Trump (and MAGA cult) didn't even understand the backhanded slap in the face when Tim "Apple" Cook presented him with the "golden calf"... er, plaque.

Same with the countries and blocks he made supposed "deals" with, e.g., Japan ($550B) and Korea ($350B) - they don't know what he was bragging about: there was only specific commitments to buy $16.5B worth of US goods, the rest was vague promises of "investment" in loans and IOUs ... and there was nothing about "90% of 'profits' going to the US" ... and nothing was formalized, of course.

Some countries make "deals" only to lower "tariff rates" (taxes on Americans), others don't, but every one is waiting and hoping for lawsuits in US courts to strike tariff authority down.

And as far as "not causing inflation" - remember that companies pay tariffs to Treasury immediately and they did inventory front-running, so we didn't see increases in the consumer pipeline yet... but core CPI moved up at fastest pace in 6mos to annualized 3.1%, and the latest PPI / wholesale core and headline numbers hit 0.9% for July - far above 0.2% expected, most of which will be passed along to consumers and some possibly absorbed by the companies while they are cutting tariff costs by layoffs and automation. So we have both weakening economy and employment, and rising prices - consistent with some forecasts of what was called "stagflation" in the '70s.

And some tariffs increased on August 7, so we haven't seen the effects of that yet.

Something that Trump doesn't [want to] understand : money from tariffs is not "flowing into the US" from other countries - they are paid/transferred to Treasury from American businesses / importers - IOW, it's an internal tax on imports, which was about 13.5% of US economy in recent years. Exports, which represent about 30+% of revenue by S&P 500 companies may also shrink as consumers of other countries "buy local" and boycott American goods if there are alternatives. Las Vegas and other tourist destinations already see some of it.

In July 2025, 71 large US companies filed for bankruptcy. Year-to-date 446 bankruptcies, already surpassing full year totals for 2021, 70 of them in the industrial sector.

IOW, Trump's tariffs may reduce meaningless metric of "US trade deficits" ("Yay, success!") but they are also shrinking world trade... and economies, including the US... which you may not see clearly due to lower USD.

Oh what a tangled web we "weave"...

And CBO projection of One Big Bloody Bu**-Ugly Bill creating additional $3.5T in debt in the next 10 years? I think we can do "better" and do it in 3-4 years, despite all of the imagined DOGE "savings" and "trillions or hundreds of billions of dollars flowing in" in tariffs.

US deficit hit $291B in July - that's an annual pace of $3.5T. July tariffs brought in $25B - Trump called it "incredible revenue" - but the government spent $630B.

"It's the spending, stupid."
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#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-08-07 06:04 PM
Are corporations using their new tax cuts to buy back their stock, raising the stock price?

There were no significant "new" corporate tax rate cuts or increases in One Big Bloody Budget-Busting Bill - it mostly stopped the tax rate set in 2017's TCJA from expiring at the end of 2025, making it "permanent"... unless and until Congress changes them. It was the same 2017 rate throughout the "great economy" and deficits of both Trump and Dark Brandon. There are some accelerated deductions and amortizations for R&D and other expenses but these are not "new tax cuts" that would materially affect corporations decisions to "buy back their stock."

Also, I don't know why "stock buybacks" would be considered "evil" or such a sore issue for anyone.

They aren't necessarily "raising the stock price" - many public/listed corporations routinely buy back stock to account for dilution, i.e., issuance of new stock as compensation to its employees, including directors, executives, pension and 401(k) plans, stock mergers/buyouts, outside contractors etc.

It's also a tax-preferred way of returning some value to the stock owners, as opposed to direct dividends, which usually drop the price of stock ex-dividend and are taxable, unless in tax-deferred or tax-free accounts.

For example, "Oracle of Omaha" Warren Buffett's Berkshire-Hathaway ($1T market cap) doesn't pay dividends and has often used buybacks, especially during NZIRP times, when he didn't see a better opportunity to invest somewhere else and excess cash from profits didn't yield much in safe deposit accounts.

Buyback is a responsible way for the boards, CEOs and CFOs to manage corporate cash. Large buybacks are often presented to stockholders for a vote.

www.investopedia.com - Buyback

Here's Buffett dropping some wisdom:

www.fool.com -- Warren Buffett Just Issued a Stark Warning to President Trump About the Impact of Tariffs. Buffett calls tariffs "an act of war..." - 2025-03-08

www.fool.com - Warren Buffett's Warning to Wall Street on President Donald Trump's Tariffs Is Deafening - 2025-08-09
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Redneck Recession Hits Working-class the Hardest

Recessions usually do; and felt first by the lower quintiles.

Wall Street and Silicon Valley are booming ...

Not quite accurate. It only looks like it because "rising tide lifts all/most boats" and the way the market indexes and passive investment funds work.

Mag Seven now account for 35.4% of S&P 500. That's almost 3x in 2015, when they were 12.3% of SPX - near concentration in financial sector in 2006-7, before 2008 GFC.

62% own stocks. Top 10% own 93% of the value. Top 1% own 50% of the value.

blogs.cfainstitute.org - Myth-Busting: The Economy Drives the Stock Market

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"Manufacturing is in recession. Construction is in a deep recession. Transportation and distribution is in recession. Wholesaling is in recession. Retail is holding on by its thumbs..."

This is not a new information. This has been true - and I've been pointing it out here all through the election season - since Biden's $1.3T "Inflation Reduction Act" and "Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act" passed. Remember elections, when most people said that economy was #1 issue... in addition to "culture war" issues unfavorable to Dems?

news.gallup.com - 2024 October Gallup poll

Reduced to single "compound average" numbers, the 'GDP growth,' 'unemployment' and 'inflation' have been misleading and sending false signals for a long time, because stocks went up on AI investment spigot and top quintiles kept spending, putting money back into economy. Some people here (who no longer post) were sure about Dems' win because "US economy is the envy of the world" and good official NUMBERS 'under Biden'... apparently ignoring or not seeing the distribution and "personal economy" of majority of voters.

www.bloomberg.com - The Mighty American Consumer Is Powered by Higher Earners - Oct 15, 2024

www.vice.com - Rich People Are Powering the Economy - No One Else Has Money - 2025-02-25
|------- The top 10% of earners are responsible for 49.7% of all spending in the United States. ... in 1995, the top 10% of earners made up 36% of all spending. -------|

What is true is that Trump's stupid antics (aka "negotiation style") and mish-mash of economic goals (can't call any of this "policies" when they contradict each other and can be turned on a dime) has rapidly accelerated deceleration or "real" economy, when even top quintile and largest businesses are now being negatively affected, e.g. see Amazon's latest Q report; shares of delivery companies like UPS are down from 2021 peaks.

"Bring manufacturing home!" is a slogan, not a policy; it make no sense when the US manufacturing sector accounts for the same economic share of GDP but with the fraction of people employed at the peak in 70s, and that manufacturing sector is already in need of some 400,000 jobs "with appropriate skills" that employers can't fill. Is it parties' bright idea to mandate a shift from high value-add to low value-add "manufacturing" jobs?

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He believes that as much as a third of the US economy is already effectively in recession.

That's why government's view of "economy" has been so different from most people's for years.

Hard economic data has been sus since at least April, soft data shows overall economy is now decelerating faster.
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#9 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-09 12:01 AM
This deal ends 35 years of fighting.

upload.wikimedia.org - map

If you knew anything at all about more than 35 years of Nagorno-Karabakh ('Artsakh Republic') conflicts and Lachin corridor (en.wikipedia.org - whatever replaces it to be named "Trump road"?), you would know that the "deal" which kind of "ended" conflict was the 1-day offensive of Azerbaijan forces in September of 2023 after they choked off the only road to Armenian enclave ("protected" by 2020 Russia-brokered ceasefire) and almost all Armenians who were able, fled to Armenia.

"On September 28 2023, the president of Artsakh signed a decree to dissolve all state institutions and existence of the Artsakh Republic to an end by January 1 2024."

'Artsakh Republic' no longer exists... neither does the conflict. Nothing to fight over since Sept 2023. In 2024 both countries had peace treaty talks; in April 2024 outline of peace agreement, with 1991 post-Soviet borders and land handover was approved by Blinken.

No "peace" was "brokered" by Trump.

Armenia (former member of Russia's 'mini-NATO' lookalike CSTO) is pissed at Putin who promised protection, but removed his "peacekeeping" troops. It since looked for security (from Azerbaijan and Turkey threats) to the US and EU.

www.newsweek.com - Putin Caught Off Guard as His 'Mini-NATO' Falls Apart - NW, 2024-02-23

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#14 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-09 10:43 AM
The leaders of both countries have said that Trump was instrumental in getting the peace deal done.

What did you expect? It's part of the same sad script in the spectacle and charade that "Man of Peace" Trump is running, chasing Nobel Peace Prize.

Did you know that he tasked "Little" Marco Rubio to find whoever wherever want to sign the already negotiated peace agreements and bring them to White House for signing ceremony, even when (as he himself admitted) Trump has no idea of the origins and why there were hostilities in the first place?

The scenario of grift: Trump commits US taxpayers money/support for some project the parties want (and name it "TRUMP something"), claims credit and is publicly praised for "brokering peace" and one/both of them nominate him for Nobel Peace Prize... hoping that either the number of nominations will do it or at least he can boast and complain that he didn't get it despite all the "nominations"... as he already did during Congo-Rwanda signing.

You remember "celebrating" Congo-Rwanda sham-wow "peace accord" Trump claimed credit for and promised "US support" just a month ago?
drudge.com and drudge.com - "Congo and Rwanda Sign a US Mediated Peace Deal" - June 29, 2025

Ready to send in the Marines?: news.un.org - UN: Armed militia kill hundreds in eastern DRC - 2025-08-06
|------- Hopes for peace in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) have been shaken by a surge in brutal attacks on civilians by armed groups, including the Rwandan-backed M23 militia. ... "despite the ceasefire that was recently signed in Doha..." -------|

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#19 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-09 11:04 AM
It's insane that you view EVERYTHING through a Trump lens.

It's insane that you have not a bit of curiosity or critical thinking when it comes to anything Trump - for Trump, EVERYTHING is really ALL about TRUMP!

Congratulations, "You've been Apprenticed!"(TM)
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Something about word "nuclear" is always getting some people all hyper and buggered.

The premise of the article is idiotic - that "This should stop before an arms race, atomic terrorism or even nuclear war results."

"This" being R&D of nuclear energy for peaceful and safe(r) nuclear plants and reactors. As if any of that will result in (new?) "arms race, atomic terrorism or even nuclear war."

On the contrary, the new reactors are designed to be safe from exactly the ills author describes, that previous designs and plants were susceptible to, and move from costly and un-safe LWR into multiple solutions that have nothing to do with "arms race" because they don't depend on "enriched" U-235 or Pu-239.

For example, 30 safe CANDU (Canada Deuterium Uranium) reactors are currently deployed worldwide - 19 in Canada, 4 in Korea, 18 (16-modified) in India, 2 in China, 2 in Romania, etc.

FTA: |------- ... Biden also gave nearly $2 billion to TerraPower, a nuclear energy venture founded by billionaire Bill Gates, for a similar but larger "fast" reactor that also is touted for export. Experts say this inevitably would entail far greater plutonium extraction, even though the company denies any intention to do so. The U.S. Department of Energy also has funded the American branch of Terrestrial Energy, which seeks to build exotic "molten salt" reactors that use liquid rather than solid nuclear fuel. ...
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LFT/thorium MSRs (Malten Salt Reactors) are hardly "exotic" - they burn ALL nuclear fuel, some MSR designs go back 60+ years (one went "live" at Oak Ridge NL, TN in 1965) - and newer U-Pu "fast reactors" designs depend on cheap repurposed fuel that can be "extracted" from spent nuclear rods used in now-predominant LWRs, at the same time helping solve problem of storing the accumulated "nuclear waste."

Author "instead" is pushing for vague "... new reactor types that use tiny particles of coated fuel, which can bolster resistance to both accidents and plutonium extraction" (IOW, he means tristructural isotopic coated-fuel particles / TRISO CFP, which are also safe) ... but fails to mention that they also require processed uranium in UCO or UO2 (or Pu), and that TRISO-based reactors emit l2x-15x of SNF (Spent Nuclear Fuel) per unit of energy produced than a typical LWR. This creates several problems of both pre-processing and post-processing of radioactive materials, not to mention the total cost and radiation safety outside of reactor time, which also reduces the time the fuel can be stored and/or transported.

Different designs have different immediate and lifetime cost structures, and issues of operational and storage/transport safety, emissions, etc., so may need to be balanced depending on environment. But once built (amortized) they can produce immense amount of clean cheap energy.

Some of these companies are public or planning to go public via SPACs... Few, like Oklo (NYSE:OKLO), look like "vaporware" with nothing but slick PR and gov't ties. Be careful if you want to invest in them - remember a slew of "renewable energy" companies that spectacularly went bust.

There have been R&D funded by the US and other governments (Germany, UK et al) on improving all these designs, including bipartisan in the US (see above), so the author pushing the panic button because Trump admin (just like Biden admin before him) chose to fund some R&D outside of his fav solution, using "arms race, atomic terrorism or even nuclear war" rhetoric is nonsensical and plain scaremongering, playing on people's fear of "Nukes!" like use of "depleted uranium" in armor-piercing shells.

Not cool.
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#4 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-07-28 10:21 AM
How dare they use math. --- #3 math?

Yes, math - algorithms that adapt to variations of supply and demand.

These aren't free market principles. This is no different than a social scoring system. Earning or lising points because government wants you to behave a certain way.

This is EXACTLY "free market principles" - Delta is not the government and can't force you to buy anything, only incentivize you by cheaper prices or upgrades when supply exceeds demand and they have open seats to sell [for marginal profit], or raise prices when seats are in short supply and demand exceeds supply.

|------- If passed, the law would allow anyone to sue companies found unfairly using AI, lawmakers explained in what's called a "one-sheet." That could mean charging customers higher prices - based on "how desperate a customer is for a product and the maximum amount a customer is willing to pay" - or paying employees lower wages - based on "their financial status, personal associations, and demographics."

Hepner pushed lawmakers to support the legislation... suggesting that could help "restore fair, transparent, and predictable pricing." Otherwise, "there is no such thing as a good deal when every consumer is charged a different price"
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Really? What is "a good deal" to him? "One size/price/wage fits all" is a "good deal"?

More [class] lawsuits and/or government interference and regulations based on someone's "perception" of being "gouged" by "predatory" airlines or employers that take into account education, experience (demographics), work history, mental capacity, etc.?

That will only raise costs and, correspondingly, prices for everyone.

|------- Delta denied that its AI system used personalized data for individualized pricing. Instead, it apparently relies on AI to forecast demand for certain flights... factors like... customer demand, and competitive offers that perhaps that customer is known to be weighing also influence the AI's pricing, which lawmakers and critics may be interpreting as individualized pricing.

Delta said: "There is no fare product Delta has ever used, is testing or plans to use that targets customers with individualized offers based on personal information or otherwise. A variety of market forces drive the dynamic pricing model that's been used in the global industry for decades, with new tech simply streamlining this process." -------|

This is just an extension of what Sen. Warren and Bernie Sanders and Ron Wyden tried last year, to blame Kroger and/or other grocers or companies in other industries (like real estate/rent management company RealPage, etc.) that used tech and math ("algorithmic pricing" / "dynamic pricing") for so-called "algorithmic collusion" (aka "hi-tech price fixing") and "gouging" ("corporate greed") while in reality it usually benefits both the consumers and companies, e.g.:

www.npr.org - Why supermarkets are adopting dynamic pricing: Dynamic pricing is an increasingly common phenomenon - NPR, 2024-03-06

Now the same "usual suspects" using the same terms ("gouging, fair wages, inequality, exploitation...") are trying to redefine "algorithmic collusion" as "AI spying / surveillance-based pricing" and also sneak into the bill "AI-based wage discrimination."

This is just one example why voters don't usually trust Democrats on the economy.

No thank you!

If you read the entire article and understand what this bill is really about and what it's actually trying to do, you would say not only "No thank you!" but "Hell, no!"
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#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-18 07:59 PM
t aside, why might have the IPO stock price plunge by almost 50%?

1. WS axiom: "Buy on the rumor (hype), sell on the news."

SPACs usually trade around initial $10, until they find a "reverse merger" target. PEW has run up to $21.40 once they learned that merger will happen, on nothing more than Trump Jr being on the board of merger target.

2. It dropped back only to "initial" $10 by Friday (and another 8% this morning) so not really a huge flop, considering that company has no sales, weird financials (even for a SPAC), and no real business or potential competitive advantage relative to other, established online-only or mixed BaM firearm sellers.

Essentially they will be burning money they raised (just like Trump Media / DJT) and may eventually go the "Bitcoin/crypto treasury" model route (just like DJT recently did) which has become a popular way to boost the stock for companies whose business dried up or has never been there, i.e., scams. That usually causes the spike in stock price, just like during dot-com bubble adding ".com" to name of companies temporarily boosted the price... until people figured out that it was the sign of failed business and prices of many newly minted .com's started to fall rapidly.

Some of the "investors" may be waiting for this or similar event to exit on a spike, leaving new buyers with losses.

Most "blank check" speculators know that most SPACs eventually go bust, but keep playing the game hoping for "greater fools" to sell to.

3. In any case, Don Jr has 300K of free stock, which may be time-restricted, but still nothing to sneeze at for lending a no-business company a brand name. If he can sell any of them before the bust, it's pure profit.

If anything, the lackluster "reception" of PEW may mean that people are on to the grift, that "TRUMP" sheen is starting to fade, and their grift will have fewer opportunities like this, to scam the "investors" in the brand.

Like father, like sons.
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#28 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-07-13 10:07 AM
For example while they claimed they were going eliminate private property they never did especially for the elite Germans.

Yeah, read the Mises.org link about that - it explains why they "never did" that, and "total control" didn't mean "total ownership" as communism/Marxism demanded - their socialism was different from Marxism. And even in Soviet Union they "never eliminated private property, especially for the elite Russians." And shortly after the Great Revolution of 1917, they had to institute "New Economic Policy / NEP," which went well beyond even National Socialism in allowing private property and commerce to save the communist economy from ruin.

www.britannica.com (brief)
en.wikipedia.org

Same in Cuba, and other "socialist/Marxist" countries where the elites enjoyed privileges of dachas and private investments and accumulated great wealth.

Hitler didn't make the mistake of abolishing significantly more efficient large private industrial enterprises (again, see reasons in mises.org link and elsewhere) - which allowed rapid rebuilding of the Wehrmacht economy - but he did, for example, force Ferdinand Porsche to create Volkswagen ("People's car") for the masses, etc. etc.

What most fans of "socialism" are trying to imply is that, on one hand, "socialism" can have many forms other than failed "communism" and be "good, benevolent" - yet in another breath they insist that only Marxist "socialism" (Marx himself didn't distinguish between "socialism" and "communism") was the only and true one, and there can be no other (like German National Socialism) which we all know has definitely not been the case.

Even in Soviet Union there were several different socialist groups. the largest of which were Bolsheviks (far-left faction of the original Marxist Russian Social Democratic Labour Party [RSDLP]) led by Lenin, Stalin, Dzerzhinsky et al(eventual, and the only winners) and more bourgeois-socialist Mensheviks, led by Trotsky, Axelrod, Dan, Martov et al., which were eventually outlawed and subjugated or eliminated.

Historians generally agree that Nazism was a distinct ideology separate from traditional socialism

Mo, historians, like Hitler and Goebbels, generally agree that Nazism is different from Marxism ("traditional"?? socialism) - which would be correct.

Like I said, unless you think that "traditional socialism / Marxism" (i.e., "total government ownership of means of production" and total elimination of private property / enterprises) is the only form of "socialism" then it's difficult to explain the existence of [and attachment to] "other/benevolent forms(?)" of "socialism."

... but their core ideology was centered on race, nationalism, and state power...

Yes, and as my posts and links show, none of these exclude "socialism" - after all, the core of socialism is state power and "patriotism"

Repeat: Communism requires "total ownership of means of production"; fascism imposes "total control over means of production" - but both are socialist totalitarian regimes (government 'uber alles' / above individual rights).

Who better to learn this from than the chief propagandist of ideology?

It is well known now that Adolf Hitler and the Nazi regime frequently used deception and propaganda to mask their true intentions and advance their agenda.

Yes, so do/did every other socialist/communist country - that's why need for total control/ownership of the media. In USSR "samizdat" (underground press) was prosecuted, and typewriters issued only to "good communists."
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The 25 points program of NSDAP (1920) - was it "socialist" enough?

www.vaholocaust.org - "25 points of Nazi Party" - "National Socialistic Yearbook 1941" - Published by: Central Publishing House of N.S.D.A.P. - The program of the NSDAP [PDF]

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The program is the political foundation of the NSDAP and accordingly the primary political law of the State. It has been made brief and clear intentionally. ...

... Fuehrer has succeeded in the realization of essential portions of the Party program from the fundamentals to the detail.

The Party Program of the NSDAP was proclaimed on the 24 February 1920 by Adolf Hitler ... and since that day has remained unaltered. Within the national socialist philosophy is summarized in 25 points:

...

3. We demand land and territory (colonies) for the sustenance of our people, and colonization for our surplus population.

4. Only a member of the race can be a citizen. A member of the race can only be one who is of German blood, without consideration of creed. Consequently no Jew can be a member of the race.

...

7. We demand that the state be charged first with providing the opportunity for a livelihood and way of life for the citizens. ...

...

10. The first obligation of every citizen must be to work both spiritually and physically.

11. Abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes. Breaking of rent-slavery.

...

13. We demand the nationalization of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).

14. We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.

15. We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.

17. We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land.***

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19. We demand substitution of a German common law in place of the Roman Law serving a materialistic world-order.

20. The state is to be responsible for a fundamental reconstruction of our whole national education program, to enable every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education and subsequently introduction into leading positions. ... The comprehension of the concept of the State must be striven for by the school [Staatsbuergerkunde] ...

21. The State is to care for the elevating national health by protecting the mother and child, by outlawing child-labor, by the encouragement of physical fitness...

22. We demand abolition of the mercenary troops and formation of a national army.

23. We demand legal opposition to known lies and their promulgation through the press. ...

24. We demand freedom of religion for all religious denominations within the state so long as they do not endanger its existence or oppose the moral senses of the Germanic race. ... It combats the Jewish-materialistic spirit within and around us...: common utility precedes individual utility.

25. For the execution of all of this we demand the formation of a strong central power in the Reich. Unlimited authority of the central parliament over the whole Reich and its organizations in general. ...

*** Adolf Hitler proclaimed the following explanation for this program on the 13 April 1928:
Regarding the false interpretations of Point 17... the following definition is necessary:
"...land which has been illegally acquired or is not administered from the viewpoint of the national welfare. This is directed primarily against the Jewish land-speculation companies."
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|----- Consider these quotes from Joseph Goebbels:

"Socialism is the ideology of the future." - ... in Goebbels: A Biography

"The bourgeoisie has to yield to the working class ... Whatever is about to fall should be pushed. We are all soldiers of the revolution. We want the workers' victory over filthy lucre. That is socialism." - in "Doctor Goebbels: His Life and Death"

"We are socialists, because we see in socialism, that means, in the fateful dependence of all folk comrades upon each other, the sole possibility for the preservation of our racial genetics and thus the re-conquest of our political freedom and for the rejuvenation of the German state. - "Why We Are Socialists?" Der Angriff (The Attack), July 16, 1928

"We are not a charitable institution but a Party of revolutionary socialists." - Der Angriff editorial, May 27, 1929

"Capitalism assumes unbearable forms at the moment when the personal purposes that it serves run contrary to the interest of the overall folk. It then proceeds from things and not from people. Money is then the axis around which everything revolves. It is the reverse with socialism. The socialist worldview begins with the folk and then goes over to things. Things are made subservient to the folk; the socialist puts the folk above everything, and things are only means to an end." - "Capitalism," Der Angriff, July 15, 1929

"In 1918 there was only one task for the German socialist: to keep the weapons and defend German socialism." - "Capitalism," Der Angriff, July 15, 1929

"To be a socialist means to let the ego serve the neighbour, to sacrifice the self for the whole. In its deepest sense socialism equals service." - diary notes (1926)

"The lines of German socialism are sharp, and our path is clear. We are against the political bourgeoisie, and for genuine nationalism! We are against Marxism, but for true socialism!" - Those ---- Nazis: Why Are We Socialists? (1932)

"We are socialists because we see the social question as a matter of necessity and justice for the very existence of a state for our people, not a question of cheap pity or insulting sentimentality. The worker has a claim to a living standard that corresponds to what he produces." - Those ---- Nazis: Why Are We Socialists? (1932)

"England is a capitalist democracy. Germany is a socialist people's state." - "Englands Schuld" (the speech is not dated, but likely was given in 1939)

"Because we are socialists we have felt the deepest blessings of the nation, and because we are nationalists we want to promote socialist justice in a new Germany." - Die verfluchten Hakenkreuzler. Etwas zum Nachdenken (1932)

"The sin of liberal thinking was to overlook socialism's nation-building strengths, thereby allowing its energies to go in anti-national directions." - Die verfluchten Hakenkreuzler. Etwas zum Nachdenken (1932)

"To be a socialist is to submit the I to the thou; socialism is sacrificing the individual to the whole. Socialism is in its deepest sense service." - as quoted in "Escape from Freedom," Erich Fromm

"We are a workers' party because we see in the coming battle between finance and labor the beginning and the end of the structure of the twentieth century. We are on the side of labor and against finance. . . The value of labor under socialism will be determined by its value to the state, to the whole community." - Those ---- Nazis: Why Are We Socialists? (1932)

... One can see that in many ways the Nazi spoke much like Karl Marx. ...
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#14 | Posted by Corky at 2025-07-09 02:53 PM
It's just hilarious that you never pass up the chance to infer that Nazis were ever really socialists.
It's like you don't know that was a propaganda ploy in the name.

TL;DR: There is ton of indisputable evidence that Nazi were, in fact, "really socialist" which the fans of [concept of benevolent] "socialism" choose to deny:

Joseph Goebbels himself wrote many articles and books detailing why NSDAP ideology was truly socialist** ... but not Marxist.

fee.org - Joseph Goebbels' Own Words Show He Loved Socialism and Saw It as 'the Future'
Socialists will continue to argue that Nazism was not "real" socialism, but the Nazi propaganda despised capitalism and spoke like Karl Marx.
- 2023-01-23

|----- ... before capitalists and socialists agree on whether the Nazis were "really socialists."

... and not just because the word is right there in the name: National Socialism. If you read the speeches and private conversations of the Nazi hierarchy, it's clear they loved socialism and despised individualism and capitalism.

In his new book Hitler's National Socialism, the historian Rainer Zitelmann gives a penetrating look into the ideas that shaped men like Hitler and Goebbels. While it's clear they saw their own brand of socialism as distinct from Marxism (more on that later), there is no question they saw socialism as the future and despised bourgeoisie capitalism. ***

...

Phrases like "we are a workers' party," "the worker has a claim to a living standard that corresponds to what he produces," "money... is the reverse with socialism," and "we are against the political bourgeoisie" could easily be plucked from Marx's own speeches and writings - yet it's clear Goebbels despised Marx and saw his brand of "national socialism" as distinct from Marxism.

So what sets National Socialism apart from Marxism? There are two primary differences.

The first is that Hitler and Goebbels fused their socialism with race and German nationalism, rejecting the international ethos of Marxism " "Workers of the world unite!" " for a more practical one that emphasized Germany's Vlkischen movement.

... As the Nobel Prize-winning economist F.A. Hayek pointed out, it made socialism more palatable to many Germans...

"The supreme tragedy is still not seen that in Germany it was largely people of good will who, by their socialist policies, prepared the way for the forces which stand for everything they detest," Hayek wrote in The Road to Serfdom (1944). "Few recognize that the rise of fascism... was not a reaction against the socialist trends of the preceding period but a necessary outcome of those tendencies."

The second difference is that National Socialists were less concerned with directly controlling the means of production.
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"We are socialists because we see in socialism, that is the union of all citizens, the only chance to maintain our *racial inheritance* and to regain our political freedom and renew our German state" - Joseph Goebbels (1928)

"Fascism is the stage reached after communism has proved an illusion..." - Friedrich A. von Hayek

Communism requires "total ownership of means of production"; fascism imposes "total control over means of production" - but both are socialist totalitarian (government 'uber alles' / above individual rights) regimes.

mises.org - Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian - 2021-10-01
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Trump's Finances Were Shaky -- Then He Began to Capitalize on His Comeback

Nothing new here - he's made most of his money (-- money) through politics and money-laundering, including and starting with his first Manhattan "real estate deal" with Pritzkers' Hyatt... which, of course. ended in acrimony:
www.thedailybeast.com - Trump's Bitter Personal Feud With Rival Billionaires Is Behind His Harvard Hate Campaign

He was never in Top 10 Developers List in New York City or New Jersey, or success--l in many other enterprises he branched into (airlines, casinos, food. etc.). Most of his golf courses are losing money and financed with Russian mob money.

Just one example of Trump property at a very prestigious location that is worthless, and losing money due to low occupancy:

www.curbed.com - The Weird Worth of 40 Wall Street | Donald Trump's most troubled real estate could soon become a slick machine to curry favor with the president. - Oct. 31, 2024 (a week before election - loan supposedly has just been paid off at the end of June 2025; with all the money thrown at Trump since election**, especially through crypto and obscure public and pre-IPO/reverse merger/SPAC companies where Don Jr and Eric are invited to be on Board) it would be embarrassing to default on very visible "Trump property" in NYC.)

As far as real business is concerned he's been a huge failure all his life, and is well known for breaking agreements / "deals" he negotiated. Most of people who have previously done business with him have turned against him, some ended up in bankruptcies or even in prison... which doesn't bother him a bit as long as he can move on to the new scam and grift - and phony "populism" allows to do this bigly. As well as propensity to offload his personal debts onto other "investors," particularly via worthless public companies (like DJT - 1st and 2nd).

His branding income is only supported because of the office he holds, when "investors" think they can capitalize on it, directly or indirectly; most of it pretty much disappeared after he lost to Biden.

As I've said before - his goals are to stay out of jail, get Nobel Peace Prize or attach his name to something considered positive and consequential in history ("Abraham Accords"! "Trump Accord"!) to wash off his impeachments and dismal record and polling, and grab as much cash and embed his dumb and dumber sons in sustainable "Trump" branded businesses.
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**
www.forbes.com - Don Jr. And Eric Trump Landed $3 Million In Stock For Joining Firm's Advisory Board That Had Little Public Presence Before Their Appointment (DOMH) - 2025-04-17

smokinggun.org - Trump Jr. Becomes GrabAGun Director Ahead of IPO - 2025-04-14

nypost.com - Donald Trump Jr. joining board of BlinkRx - 2025-02-06

www.reuters.com - Eric Trump-backed American Bitcoin to go public through all-stock merger - 2025-05-12

www.coingabbar.com - $620M in 6 Months | Who is Building Trumps Crypto Empire - 2025-07-03

etc., etc.
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#19 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-06-30 07:54 AM
See. It can be done. Just pretend it was the UK that mediated this.

Or you can pretend that Trump mediated this... just like he claims to have "mediated" the end of Operation Sindoor (India-Pakistan skirmish) which PM Modi absolutely, positively rejects - there was no 'perfect call' and ceasefire was negotiated by MoD's of both countries.

He also complains that he'll never get Nobel even as he deserves it for "solving / mediating" Serbia and Kosovo, Egypt and Ethiopia...
www.newsweek.com - 2025-06-21

Claiming credit for any seemingly positive event that he had nothing to do with is a sign of fragile and overinflated ego of never being respected as a "successful businessman" and "great dealmaker" (because he never was) and in constant need of stroking, flattery and parades, and his sick, demented mind - check his family history and past and recent statements by his psychologist niece Mary Trump and nephew Fred Trump III on issue of dementia.

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#26 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-06-30 02:18 PM
Of course we know what happened. It's been widely reported.

It has been, but you only chose the part you want to see.

Here's what happened well before the fake "peace agreement" which Trump wanted to call "Trump Accord" and claimed it deserves Nobel Peace Prize, which he is after, like a dog chasing car, no matter how much damage it might cause - see Neville Chamberlain's "Peace for our Time" a year before WWII... not that this "agreement" is in any way as consequential.

This is NOT about "peace":

1. DRC produces 80 percent of the world's cobalt. 80 percent of DRC's total cobalt output is controlled/owned by Chinese state-owned companies.

2. DRC ranks 183 out of 190 on the World Bank's Doing Business indicators.

3. 2023-2024 : HR 8310 - Bipartisan "BRIDGE to DRC Act" - "To require a national strategy to secure US supply chains involving critical minerals sourced from the Democratic Republic of Congo"

"As the US seeks to gain greater access to critical minerals and diversify its supply chains away from Chinese influence, Biden administration officials hope that... it would increase US or Western firms' willingness to invest in the country."

www.npr.org - DRC's mining is at the heart of Biden's bid to counter China in Africa - Dec 4, 2024

4. Doha, March - May 2025: DRC - Rwanda peace talks didn't lead to agreement because main belligerent - March23 (M23) - rejected the proposals. Sidestepping M23 as a participant in Trump's "peace deal" makes it 'provisional,' at best. And none of many conditions to make it "real" include M23, which is why no such charade was attempted before... but that didn't stop the publicity hound Trump.

5. KoBold, funded by Bezos and Bill Gates (I mentioned here in February that they abandoned search for REEs in Greenland and moved on to "sure thing" in Congo) signed a $1B conditional purchase agreement with a DRC miner AZV in May - www.mining.com

6. Only respective FMs showed up for signing. "Rwanda FM told Trump that past deals had not been implemented and urged Trump to stay engaged. Congo FM said deal must be followed by disengagement." M23 is not party to "peace deal" - so whose "boots on the ground" are going to enforce it? Or are US taxpayers dollars going to PMCs (like Constellis?) to police it... or the mine(s)?

"And now you know... the rest of the story."
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"We take the solar power that we collect from the sun with solar panels, and we take that energy and put it into a set of diodes that turn it back into light," Bhatt said. "That light goes into a fiber where there's a laser, which then lets us point that down to the ground."

Not a new concept - ask 'Willard Whyte'.

www.youtube.com - James Bond - Diamonds are Forever - Baja? I haven't got anything at Baja!

Or more recently:
www.nbcnews.com - Solar Lasers Not Just for James Bond - NBC, 2011-09-19

en.wikipedia.org - Space-based solar power

"Various SBSP proposals have been researched since the early 1970s, but as of 2014 none is economically viable with the space launch costs. Some technologists propose lowering launch costs with space manufacturing or with radical new space launch technologies other than rocketry.

Besides cost, SBSP also introduces several technological hurdles, including the problem of transmitting energy from orbit."
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#4 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-06-19 09:53 AM
This is just an after affect of Biden seizing Russian assets and giving them to Ukraine.
No nation can be the reserve currency and just take other Nations money because you don't like them.

1. It's not "Biden seizing", it's G7 freezing Russian assets / funds, most of which have been in European banks at the time (in whatever acceptable "designated" international currency) more than 3 years ago - USD actually went up 20% in March-August 2022, after G7 "froze" the assets. Euroclear alone is holding vast majority of funds, in euros, EUR195B.

2. ~$300B is a tiny amount of even USD daily trade / transaction volume, and it's earning interest until G7 decides what to do with it. So far Ukraine only received about EUR1B from accrued interest on these funds. Recent Euroclear disbursement of ~$3.4B to Russian investors was controversial, to say the least.
"If it is returned to Russia, it will be converted into tanks, missiles, drones, training of new troops. The world... must demonstrate that unlawful war brings irreversible financial consequences."

3. Until Trump started openly stating that he wants lower USD (to help US exports and make imports more expensive - "lower trade deficit"!) and lower interest rates (which would also lower USD value) - and to "make the US crypto capital of the world" (of course, nothing to do with his own crypto grifts) - USD was in range of 100-108 for ; it dropped sharply since 110 in January 2025 to 98 this week.

IOW, this nonsense has absolutely nothing to do with USD being a "reserve currency" and its exchange rate.

I understand you want to tie anything that happens here economically to "Russia / Putin have been 'treated badly' by the big bad US / West / NATO" and this is all "Biden's fault" but this one is craziest one I've heard.

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#8 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-06-19 03:13 PM
Expect more wars because all America has left to sell is weaponry - and its the absolute best but it's really all we produce anymore.

How so? In absolute $$ terms we are only behind China in manufacturing:

Manufacturing by country (2023/2024, in ~$$B, % of global manufacturing output):
China ---- 4658 (31.6%)
USA ------ 2497 (15.9%)
Germany -- 845 (10.5%)
Japan ---- 818 (5.5%)
India ---- 461 (3.1%)
S Korea -- 416 (2.8%)
Mexico --- 361 (2.4%)
Italy ---- 355 (2.4%)
UK ------- 354 (2.4%)
France --- 334 (2.3%)

Brazil --- 290 (2.0%)
Indonesia . 256 (1.7%)
Russia --- 252 (1.7%)
Turkey --- 215 (1.5%)
Ireland -- 207 (1.4%)

But wait, there is more! USA has much smaller population than China... and much smaller labor force... and US manufacturing sector now employs only 8.5% (12.8M) of US total labor force, while China's manufacturing employs more than 120M / 29% of total labor force! Yet US produces more than half of China's manufacturing output. Companies is other countries (including China) are buying what we manufacture, and companies here are buying what they (we) need for resale or for integrating into value-add products.

By normalized metrics, US manufacturing output is second to none!

For comparison, Vietnam manufacturing sector is 21% of their total labor force, Turkey is at 20%, Germany - 19%, Iran - 18%, Japan and SKorea - 16%, Russia and Indonesia - 14%, Ukraine - 13%, India, Brazil and Argentina - 12%, Canada, UK, Singapore, Netherlands and Israel - 9%...
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#21 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-06-19 02:28 PM
Netanyahu refuses to allow Americans to leave Israel.
He needs Americans as human shields.
Unfortunately Israel puts them in the middle of civilians.

"Zionist monsters" closed Israeli airspace for no other reason than to keep Americans in as "human shields"... because Iran cares?

Do we really need to keep lying to ourselves and make s**t up or repost every laughably stupid, easily disproved disinfo from eX-Twitter, Instagram, YT, Iranian and Russian propaganda websites** about Netanyahu / Israel / "Zionism" / Jews, only to feed confirmation bias and "keep the hate alive"?

www.travelagewest.com - This Is How Tourists to Israel Can Get Out of the Country - June 17, 2025
|------- As the Israel-Iran conflict continues to escalate, Israel's airspace remains closed, and flights to and from Israel have been suspended. Ben Gurion Airport... is closed until further notice. On Monday, the U.S. State Department raised its travel advisory for Israel to Level 4, or "Do Not Travel." According to the Israel Ministry of Tourism, there are currently 38,000 tourists in Israel... On Tuesday, the organization announced that it has created a pathway for tourists to leave the country. ... -------|

www.cbsnews.com - U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem says State Department "planning for contingencies" to help Americans leave Israel - CBS, 2025-06-18

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From Network Contagion Research Institute (NCRI) reports (https://networkcontagion.us):

|------- 6/18/25 False Flags and Fake MAGA:

Amid the escalating war with Iran, pro-Kremlin and Iranian state-linked propaganda nodes flooded American social media while masquerading as MAGA loyalists.

... These coordinated efforts exploited what NCRI identifies as a false flag reflex - a conditioned response that turns... into a trigger for trending conspiracy claims.

... Russia and Iran are actively working to destabilize MAGA movement from within. These foreign actors are deploying tens of thousands of social media bots... to amplify disinformation and sow discord among conservatives... The strategy mirrors tactics previously used to disrupt the Democratic Party, suggesting a deliberate effort to undermine political stability within the United States.

The bots work by amplifying the voices of real-life influencers who propagate false flag narratives... By creating an illusion of widespread support for extreme viewpoints, the bots aim to manipulate public perception.

... The report details specific examples of how these tactics are employed. Noctis Draven, a U.S. veteran who frequently contributes to Russian state media, is identified as a key player in spreading false flag narratives. Draven uses social media platforms to reach a potential audience of millions, pushing conspiracy theories and anti-Western propaganda.

... The report also exposes the use of seemingly innocuous online personas to spread disinformation.

One example cited is "Red Pill Media," an account claiming to be based in the U.S. but operated from Pakistan. This account, which purports to expose "Zionist terrorism," has a significant following and actively spreads anti-Semitic and anti-Israel propaganda. These seemingly grassroots accounts are often part of larger, coordinated disinformation networks, amplifying each other's messages and creating a false sense of organic support. ...
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They don't care if you're "woke" or "MAGA" - just different messages for different tribes.
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Iran Years Away from Nukes, Not Seeking Them

'Now, after days of Israeli airstrikes, US intelligence officials believe that so far, Israel may have set back Iran's nuclear program by only a matter of months, according to one of those people, a US official.

The article contradicts itself on so many levels - we're to understand that:
1. Iran is not "seeking nuclear weapons"...
2. But if they do... they are "years away from them"...
3. But if they are not "years away from them" then the Israelis have only done enough damage (as of June 17th) to "set back Iran's program by only a matter of months"...

And article's different unnamed "experts" say completely different things, some of them are "US intelligence officials" (are these "old" or "new / MAGA" officials, like "Russian asset" DNI Tulsi Gabbard ?) whose views are likely more colored by their attitude toward Israel rather than Iran's program etc. etc.

Real life:

isis-online.org - ISIS - 2025-06-09
"Iran can convert its current stock of 60 percent enriched uranium into 233 kg of WGU in three weeks at the Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant (FFEP), enough for 9 nuclear weapons
... Iran could produce its first quantity of 25 kg of WGU in Fordow in as little as two to three days. ...

From IAEA:
www.iaea.org

www.iaea.org - 2025-03-03
"I am seriously concerned that the outstanding safeguards issues remain unresolved. They stem from Iran's obligations under its Comprehensive Safeguards Agreement and need to be resolved for the Agency to be in a position to provide assurance that Iran's nuclear programme is exclusively peaceful."

www.iaea.org - 2025-06-09
"Arising from this, the Agency also concludes that Iran did not declare nuclear material and nuclear-related activities at these three undeclared locations in Iran.

Iran's unilateral decision to stop implementation of modified Code 3.1 has led to a significant reduction in the Agency's ability to verify... The rapid accumulation of highly enriched uranium... is of serious concern ... Agency cannot ignore the stockpiling of over 400 kg of highly enriched uranium."

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#18 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-06-19 01:33 PM
Stewart revealed that the clip was from ... 2012.

Maybe should not get serious news from comedians?

Let's think:

If there were no Iranian nuclear program in 2012, why did Obama negotiate with Iran and had them sign multinational NPT agreement about monitoring it?

Remember Stuxnet (Israeli / US) "worm" that fried Iran's nuclear centrifuges at several plants - that was in 2010, and set Iran's program back by several years.

Was Netanyahu / Israel wrong about Syria building secret nuclear bomb program with the help of North Korea, which was bombed in 2007 in Operation Orchard / Operation Outside the Box?
en.wikipedia.org - Operation Orchard / Operation Outside the Box - September 6, 2007 - Strategic bombing run to destroy the Syrian nuclear site

www.youtube.com - Operation Orchard: The Explosive Raid on Syria's Nuclear Facility - YT video doc (48 min) details of operation and the role of North Korea in development of Syria nuclear program
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#12 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-06-17 05:12 PM
So "we" are at war with Iran now?

#13 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-06-17 05:55 PM
not even 5 months in and war

I am not sure I'd call it a "war" as much as it is [attempt at] potential "regime change" ... should TPTB "choose to accept it" and not TACO.

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#14 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-17 05:58 PM
A war he started when he pulled the Sanctions off of Iran... prolly as yet another favor to Vlad.

Vlad did congratulate Trump on his birthday, and used that call to talk about "dangers of nuclear war" in Middle East. Vlad asked him to stop Israel from attacking his buddy Ayatollah - which Trump failed to do - and just a day ago Trump was thinking aloud about Vlad being a mediator of "Cease Fire" between Israel and Iran...

Now that this plan went up in smoke and IAF and Mossad "control the vertical and horizontal" in the air and on the ground in Tehran after decapitating IRGC and Iran's High Command and Ayatollah in "hiding" (if he wants to know where his military leaders are, and vice versa, they can call Tehran's temporary local Mossad HQ branch for info), Trump changed the course and the tone from "We are not involved at all" and is running fast to get in front of the parade and take the credit for possible "regime change" that will finish rearranging ME in the right direction, without Iranian Islamists and Russia causing trouble.

This was offered to Biden more than once but he and his team kept blinders on and insisted on Israel / Netanyahu to "take the win" and continued to pressure Israel to make more and concessions to Hamas, who saw the weakness and kept stalling and changing demands... while Israel kept almost singlehandedly dismantling Hezbollah in Lebanon, Ansar al-Shari'a in Yemen, and al-Assad's Iranian and Russian support in Syria, eventually chasing Syrian Hezbollah, Bashar and Vlad out of Syria.

Biden could've been a hero and take credit, if his team had a little nerve, courage, sense and imagination. Just like he could if he'd ignored Vlad's phony "WWIII red lines" in Ukraine. Putin-Trump channel messenger boy Tucker Carlson is attempting to do that "one weird trick" now.

Had Biden gone with the plan A, we might not have had the TACO disaster "to kick around anymore" now.

To paraphrase Oscar Wilde, the only thing Trump really has ever done well is choosing his enemies. "A man cannot be too careful in the choice of his enemies."

Happy International Panic Day
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Happy International Sushi Day
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