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Just when other countries learned his rallying cry to "Buy American!"

What's wrong with this sick old yellow dog?
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China's manufacturing activity expanded slightly in March as factories began to come online amid a coronavirus outbreak.

Some things are meant to be self-evident. The only way from the bottom is up.
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#2 | Posted by BORED at 2020-03-28 08:40 PM
Double in two days, yikes. That may be the worst death rate in the history of all death rates.
#1 | Posted by TONYROMA at 2020-03-28 07:57 PM
Math is winning...

Math is always winning when it's interpreted and/or extrapolated properly. It's easy to double (*2 = +100%) or assign a multiple of the growth rate over period of time at such an early stage of events, but you can't extrapolate from it that the growth rate will remain the same over extended period of time - it will invariably follow the bell curve (or cumulatively, the S-curve) of growth where, after a peak, the growth rate starts to fall... at which point we would be able to predict with some amount of certainty how long it would take to "die out."

That doesn't mean that Trump's fiddling and belittling other countries' response to another "hoax" while being warned by experts and even professional members of his own administration yet doing less than nothing to prepare the country's readiness to potential epidemic, wasn't atrocious.
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And yet, Trump is clearly winning PR war so far.

1. Being "optimistic" and calling for "getting people back to work" and "economic nationalism" plays in Peoria much better than "doom and gloom" Democrats and calling for months of isolation / social distancing, massive unemployment and corresponding economic misery with trillions of dollars of bailouts and debt - though GOP Trumplican branch doesn't mind that last part at all, as long as they pilot the helicopter they throw these money from.

Biden, of course, will look like... Biden.

2. There is a high likelyhood that, just like H1N1 and Wuhan timeline, the COVID-19 will pass on its own much sooner than "doom and gloom" / worst case scenarios, so Trump can and will declare victory, just months before elections:

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#21 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-03-20 04:01 PM
"Dope will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no dope.""Freewheelin' Franklin.
Just sayin...

It's pretty clear that Freewheelin' Franklin spent all his money on dope.
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"We do not believe GME qualifies as an essential retailer," wrote Benchmark Co. analyst Mike Hickey, who added that "recent media attention will likely accelerate potential closures" at the company. He reiterated his sell rating and $3 price target, and forecast "continued weakness over the next several quarters."

GameStop has 16,000 employees and operates about 5,800 stores across 14 countries. Corporate has quite a lot of debt and not a lot of liquidity, had to shut some stores last year. Prolonged shutdown could lead to serious financial problems or permanent shutdown of more stores.
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Safe to say, Trump will be a one time candidate. - "President" Hillary Rodham Clinton.

And some people may not believe Trump's lies, but still believe he's a "super-genius" playing 3D chess or something.
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"Deny deny deny, brag brag brag" - there was never ever and never ever will be any "new" Trump - like scorpion, "it's his nature."

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#3 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2020-03-12 08:42 PM
Statute of limitations.

True, but... if the other laws don't apply to Trump - as he insists - why should statute of limitations apply?

On a more strict legal note, it seems that this is the exact reason why these guys decided to open up now about bribes - statute applies to them.
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When it's Trump, Quid pro quo is status quo.
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Oh, you people are so cynical and don't understand "super-genius" minds. So he is specializing in coronavirus, not a influenza.

Evil billionaire doing the job that (Trump) government won't do?

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That kinda explains why his businesses and projects kept ending up in bankruptcy. The man can't see beyond his nose, and since his ideas are "the best ideas", no one can, or has any interest, in dissuading him.

Maybe he can dream up some kind of tariffs on "foreign (Chinese!)" coronavirus, except we already "know" that it's a "hoax"?
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But then people like you -- fiscal conservatives -- decided covering birth control, aka ---- pills, infringed on a corporation's religious beliefs.

You're making personal assumptions about me that you have no way of knowing, and yet you assume that you do know, as everything else... "---- pills"? First time hear that expression.

The whole law is a health insurer's wet dream,captive consumers mandated by law to purchase their "products" at prices they could set themselves. Of course it didn't lower prices,how could it have?

Congrats, you're starting to figure out that that's what government mandates usually lead to. And yet both "people like you" and "people like them" are fighting about the law that seems nobody really likes all that much. Are you absolutely sure that you want "the government" to completely control the process and think that you won't suffer unintended consequences when it turns out the government doesn't "know best" or just differs with or doesn't like "people like you"?

By giving more power to the government, you're taking it from yourself and "people like me" and denying choices to everyone, based on your or their or others' religious beliefs, ideology or plain corruption. "Be careful what you wish for."
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rather than those guidelines being different for everyone based on what their insurance will or won't cover.

In other words, not a consumer choice but a government-defined "one-size-fits-all health insurance supermarket"?
Wasn't Obamacare supposed to "take care" of it? Didn it make anything less expensive or better access as many doctors don't accept? As I said before, being "covered" doesn't necessarily give you better access. Just like many prescriptions are cheaper to buy directly instead of through insurance.
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#18 | Posted by danni at 2020-03-06 08:12 AM
#17 in healthcare, the good old U.S.A. pays three times as much as countries far lower down the list according to accessibility, life span, infant mortality, etc.

First, a lot of these categories are subjective. Second, infant mortality is calculated differently and disadvantageously in the U.S. so it alone brings the number down... Third, where exactly are we on the educational scale, should not we be #1, by far, with the money we spend on "free" government-run "basic" education system?

What changed America into the most powerful economic power the world had ever seen? An educated population courtesy of government run public schools.

That's just bunk - while spending tons of money on it and yet managing to always come short, we are far below many countries in education, and they are not even close to the "most powerful economic power in the world". It was the power of private enterprise that made the "good old U.S.A." an economic and military power, not "you didn't build that". Government and politicians (of both parties) are now destroying it. Try watching "The Men Who Built America".

Apparently, the "government of the people, by the people, for the people" lost its meaning long time ago - probably the result of the "free" government education, which doesn't bother to teach proper civics or economics. Try watching "Shark Tank" and learn something - it's "free" TV.

When we have a war and we need well educated, computer literate people to man the equipment necessary in modern warfare you'll wish everyone had all that free stuff when they were growing up.

Again, first of all, because of our poor and very expensive ($$ per pupil) "free" government-run education system we don't have quite enough "well educated" people as many employers needing them in private industries are complaining about. Second, and more important, you and Bernie Bros are under mistaken impression that "all that free stuff" is actually "free" - you are just paying for it in other ways, in money and access (wait, availability etc.) which of course, you would complain about.

Apparently, learning from history is not our strength, which is why demagogues have been and will keep running the country.

Your world is divided into haves and have nots.....

Not my world, yours - you are the one seeing it in these terms, not me. Every day I see people from your "have-not" world that have become "haves" professionals or businesspeople or service providers, it took desire and initiative and discipline, not complaining about not having "free stuff"

You'll be needing those masses who you have so much disdain for.

If you read your own post, it is you who have much disdain for what you call the "masses" who apparently are nobodies unless they have all the government-provided "free stuff," without which they cannot achieve anything... and "fight our wars"? You have any idea how bizarre and insulting that sounds to them?

It is a provable fact that M4All will cost less than what we spend now for healthcare.

Sorry, but from everything I read in scientific and peer-reviewed economic literature, it is a provable fact that it will do exactly the opposite. Following "Das Kapital" has been a provable failure, yet people still think it's an economic, not a "social justice" model.
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#14 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-03-06 02:11 AM
#13 Dude,take a breath. Step away from the socialism.
Bernie wants to help the poor and uninsured get the same level of care as the rest. He wants people to be able to receive medically Necessary services when NEEDED.So they don't DIE prematurely from treatable conditions.

Oh, sorry, I guess I got confused by these posts:

#2 | Posted by EFFETEPOSER at 2020-03-05 08:59 PM Bloodsuckers, Bernie should put em' out of bidness.
#3 | Posted by DARKVADER at 2020-03-05 10:03 PM Let's shut the scumsuckers down. No more health insurance, it's time for Medicare for ALL!
#11 | Posted by EFFETEPOSER at 2020-03-06 01:16 AM ...no special consideration given to rich F**ks, no line jumping unless medically necessary.

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He sees this as a basic human right.

And education, and food, and shelter, and transportation, and Internet, and... All provided by the government, of course, free, on "basic level" - "competent" and "timely" (whatever that means)... Sounds wonderful, except... how many times do we need to close the same loop?
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#11 | Posted by EFFETEPOSER at 2020-03-06 01:16 AM
Basic level of care is competent timely care based on a peer approved triage

Sounds wonderful, except who is going to define and provide "competent" and "timely" care? And what if you don't agree that it's timely or competent when it's your turn to be treated, who ya gonna call, the government?

Socialism is so seductive, on paper, when it's described as "everything is always free and available when it comes from government", that it's not surprising why a large base of Bernie's support is young people and students - they don't know any better, haven't seen life, don't understand the real-life economics, i.e., Adam Smith, not Karl Marx. Even "socialist" Paul Krugman is not a fan of Bernie's "universally failed" ideas.

Any failed idea can be described on paper as viable, such as perpetuum mobile or MMT / Modern Monetary Theory or government's unlimited money-printing of which Bernie's advisor Stephanie Kelton is chief proponent. In real life they don't really work from the beginning or fail after a while. In Soviet Union it took 3 generations to see complete and utter fail, the countries of former Soviet Union and their satellites still haven't quite recovered from that "experiment" in Marx and Engels economics.

"If you are not socialist in your 20s you don't have a heart, if you are socialist in your 30s you don't have a mind."
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#10 | Posted by CLOWNSHACK at 2020-03-06 12:58 AM
Now tell us about Trump's much-beloved North Korea.

Don't see much relevance to the subject, except that it's another good example of communist dumpster of a country with "universal misery" spread all over. And I don't think Trump loves North Korea or even "very talented" Kim Jong Un, it's just another in a long line of Orange Conman's schemes gone awry, using fake flattery and/or fake anger or fake projection of strength as tools to achieve something beneficial for himself.
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#7 | Posted by MADBOMBER at 2020-03-06 12:00 AM
What do you mean "same basic level of care?"

Probably something similar to "basic level of education" in government-run schools.

People who love "universal-everything" and "basic level" (much of which already exists or required on state levels) have never experienced it in other countries. They imagine everything "trickling up" - things getting better at lower cost - when the reality is things get worse at a higher cost because it's more difficult to go against government bureaucracy than a private provider of service or goods.

For example, Chinese economy got much stronger when it allowed large degree of private enerprise and open capitalism. Bernie's much-beloved Cuba is still stuck in bronze age of socialism.
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#7 | Posted by MADBOMBER at 2020-03-06 12:00 AM
What do you mean "same basic level of care?"

Probably something similar to "basic level of education" in government-run schools.

People who love "universal-everything" and "basic level" (much of which already exists or required on state levels) have never experienced it in other countries. They imagine everything "trickling up" - things getting better at lower cost - when the reality is things get worse at a higher cost anbureaucracydom because it's more difficult to go against government bureuacracy than a private provider of service or goods.

For example, Chinese economy got much stronger when it allowed large degree of private enerprise and open capitalism. Bernie's much-beloved Cuba is still stuck in bronze age of socialism.
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Bernie's theme song: "Tis better to pay trillions of dollars more to inefficient and unaccountable government for medical insurance than to pay less to inefficient but accountable insurance companies."

NHS in UK is not a great model of government-run insurance. Universal coverage doesn't guarantee universal access to good health care.

And it's moot anyway because Bernie would be even worse candidate than Joe against Orange Donald. Can Dems pick 'em or what?

"It's her turn" Hillary and "It's his turn" Joe, just like "It's his turn" Mitt Romney, John McCain, John Kerry, Al Gore, Bob Dole, Walter Mondale...

Who was the last Democratic Vice-president to win presidential elections?
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children under 13 were working on farms in Guatemala that supply the chain with its beans.

Have they been forced to work or haven't they been paid? If sot, then what's the problem with them helping their families in what probably is not a rich "opportunity zone" for jobs?
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#1 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2020-03-02 11:51 AM
Man made Climate change is not a hoax, -------. Fact.

You are conflating pollution and climate change - these are not the same and are generally independent of each other. Climate changes without man-made pollution have occurred throughout history, and some of the newly polluted places didn't experience significant, beyond normal, changes in climate.

Doesn't mean that climate change is a "hoax" - just that effect is not in evidence, and singular instance of correlation is not a causation.
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#2 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2020-03-02 06:30 PM
but they are too scared to vote for change.

Clearly, they are not scared of "voting for change" or they wouldn't have third election in a year. Trump is losing "bigly" to a "generic Democrat" but put Hillary's or Sanders' or Biden's face on that Democrat and the "change" may suddenly start looking very scary to enough people in enough states to either not vote or even vote for Trump - something that already happened last time.

Voters in primaries vote their heart, not "strategically" and today that presents many problems in general elections, especially when the other side is willing to do anything to win knowing they can do it with impunity, or close to it.
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