" The estimated $30B they contribute? That is a drop in the bucket"

Nonsense. It's a sizable percentage of your "drag" upthread.

Regardless, you left it out of the equation, meaning you're either a math moron or a gaslighter.

"Have you seen one proposal from the Lumpers?"

Due Process.

" throw in the health care and law enforcement and they are a giant sinkhole in the economy."

That's only part of the equation.

Where are the billions of Payroll taxes paid into the system?

"...big corporations and Democrats (now, they are the same thing)"

You don't have to keep proving you're clueless.

"Yes, I am willing to pay $0.50 more for my lettuce"

You're an idiot if you think that's all it's going to cost. Stop using Republican Math.

" if it means the public school decline stops and we can afford medical care for poor Americans."

You're joking, right? Medical care for poor Americans is OVER. The new BBB is going to cut hundreds of billions from Medicaid.

Bye bye, rural hospitals.

"If the farmer had 25-50% of illegals working, again, they deserve to go bankrupt"

Gee, only a 50%-75% change from your claim.

Thanks for admitting you're jerking around with math.

"Labor costs go up a bit but are offset by rapidly declining energy prices. "

Why would energy prices rapidly decline? Espeically when more middle class workers are driving to the fields every day?!? Your math doesn't work out.

"...and forbids their kids from using the public schools and other public services."

Sorry, I'm completely against putting the sins of the parents onto the innocent kids. You'd have them ignorant and sick.

"If the farmer was wholly reliant on illegals to harvest their crops, they deserve to go bankrupt."

Wholly?!? Once again, you're using 100% and you're wrong. A 25% reduction could be the difference between profit and loss. A 50% reduction would almost guarantee rotting crops.

"100% deporting 100% of the illegals"

100%?!? In what world?

What percentage are the farm workers?
What percentage are the hotel workers?
What percentage work at restaurants?
What percentage are meatpacking plant workers?

You need to seriously downgrade your percentage, or start using asterisks.

"The faster they are gone, the faster we get American wages up"

Trump said he was going to bring prices DOWN. Are you saying Trump has been misleading the country?

Increasing the costs will increase the price. And deporting field workers will create shortages, causing edible produce to rot in the fields.

Is that Donnie's master plan???

" When you personally get appointed by two Democrat governors Rein, you tell me what that makes you?"

In his case, one of many volunteers.

What happens when you're registered as a Republican, pretend you're a preacher, speak out against Trans folks, vote Republican, have a pretend "security" company, buy lots of guns, kill Democrats, and have a hit list of only Democrats and abortion providers?

Any logical conclusions?!?

Will Democrats and the unmarried be exempt from service as well, or is this a one-way street?

" How'd they even know exactly who did it within minutes?"

There was a piece of mail addressed to him, found among the ammo.

" earlier both Melissa Hortman and her husband Maark voted against illegas getting free health care"

Now explain the other couple who DIDN'T vote against.

Then explain all the other folks on the hit list, NONE of whom had even voted on the issue.

Just admit you can't deal with the fact this guy is a Trump humper.

" Be honest with yourself. You know the issue is immigrants entering illegally."

Oh, ffs, be honest with YOURSELF. The Haitians in Ohio were following every step an immigrant is supposed to take, and Republicans lied about them until there were death threats.

And after being corrected, THEY KEPT LYING. Despite the fact they knew schools were closing due to the threats.

Speaking of ... Notice how the claims of eating the pets has disappeared?!?

"His perspective is multifaceted,"

Moot.

His targets were single-faceted.

"Simplifying this guy to a single ideology may be difficult."

It wasn't when you thought he was a Democrat.

And don't you owe a retraction regarding what you "read somewhere"...?

" --seems that she was the only democrat to vote AGAINST the continuation of givng free S/T ( health care ) to adult illegals."

Seems the murderer didn't care.

Especially since there were victims at multiple locations.

" Also, the MSM will quickly move on if this shooter contradicts left wing narratives."

What a riot.

Neither Fox, nor OANN, nor Newsmax, nor NRO will do much "reporting" on this story.

Just like no segments on how it's impossible for ear cartilage to grow back.

" Does the political affiliation of rogue individuals necessarily reflect on the entire movement?"

It certainly did upthread ... right up to the moment it turned out he's a Republican.

"I'd prefer people with information post it here."

You posted both had voted against Dems. Where did you read that?

Are these all Democrat cities?

" This status is temporary, and it does not lead to permanent residency or citizenship."

Nor does it lead to rendition to a third-world hellhole.

Until Trump.

"The decision comes nearly two years after the administration rolled out a program geared toward Venezuelans seeking to come to the United States, allowing them to temporarily live and work in the US as a way to mitigate surges at the border. The program required that these migrants have a sponsor in the US, undergo screening and vetting, and complete vaccinations."

IOW, the exact way Republicans SAY they want immigration: Vet everyone, vax everyone, and give them temporary permits to see if they deserve America.

"I've read in one place both voted against their party "

What "one place"?