"Where the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a threat of serious physical harm..."

Well, there goes Johnathan Ross's defense....

If he believed he was in harm's way, he wouldn't have stood in front of the vehicle. Nor should he have continued shooting after side-stepping, ESPECIALLY into a moving vehicle. And the second and third shots are clearly from a point of safety.

His post-murder comment is telling as well.

"The correct answer is we need to continue to prosecute illegal immigration."

Is that with Due Process, or just renditioning them off the street?

Also, do you agree ICE Agents who get a bounty shouldn't get a bounty if it's a legal citizen?

"when he touched to officer in MN he has a duty to inform."

"I'm beginning to question the professionalism and standards of DHS"

Jonathon Ross was drawing his gun with one hand, while he was filming on his phone with the other...because they were told to get footage of their heroics.

Time to get waaaay past the "beginning".

"The left is going to defend the 2nd amendment."

While the administration is telling folks you can't protest if you're currently exercising that right.

"It's Jeff, DDS."

Isn't it his wife who's the dentist?

He didn't brandish the weapon, but he did conceal and bring one, causing more risk to him and community.

"..said every progressive anti-gun activist. Ever."
~MadBomber

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" Nothing but problem-pointer-outers."

No, there are also problem-deniers.

The guy in your mirror, for example. He doesn't see a problem with ice getting bounties for kidnapping citizens?!?

"I commented on what he said"

No, you commented on your limited understanding of what he said.

He said he saw two more photos. That means he's seen other photos, at a minimum.

"raetard"

Don't look now, but you're the one who didn't understand the word "more".

"Democrats absolutely prioritize illegal aliens over citizens."

Nonsense. All they've asked for is the Due Process guaranteed in the Constitution to "persons".

How about addressing the central point: folks you enable don't want to follow the Constitution when it comes to kidnapping persons, citizens or not. Why are you enabling them?

"If law enforcement was doing things more like a police state, I could see it."

They're entering homes without a warrant, kidnapping citizens and undocumenteds alike, and they've killed three people in three weeks, compared to ZERO cop killings of citizens in the prior fiscal year in MLPS.

What more would they have to do, for you to consider it a police state?

"You put the blame on law enforcement"

Because law enforcement wasn't following its own rules. Why do you keep pretending they were???

Why are you giving OBVIOUS breaches of protocol a pass?

"Let's see: 12,000,000 undocumented immigrants"

NONE of which came in under Trump, according to the fantasy...

"I said "contributed" to their death. Which is what they both did"

Had ANY of the police officers followed training and protocol, both would still be alive. That sounds like the cops did the lion's share of "contributing".

You're basically carrying water for murderers...because of the letter after their name.

"He stood in front of her car on purpose to block her."

Which violates police training. Why are you carrying water for someone who doesn't even understand that basic concept?

Plus, he shot into a moving car AFTER he was out of danger, another violation of protocol and training.

Then, he called the victim he'd just murdered a "f*kking bItch". Why are you giving him a pass???

"If they were rounding up people for no good reason, it would be different."

Is getting a bounty, wrong or right, a good reason???

To me, this is at the center of the problem: ICE agents are getting rewards for kidnapping people, and facing NO negative effects from kidnapping citizens.

It's a disaster waiting to happen, again and again and again.

"Law enforcement...sometimes they make mistakes"

You're too busy blaming the victims for exercising their Constitutional rights.

"They contributed to the their own deaths."

In Good's case, ICE was specifically violating training and safety protocol: Standing in front of a drivable vehicle, and shooting into a moving car are both verboten.

Did the guy who shot Good, even after he was in a safe position, "contribute" to Good's death???

And what's your reaction to Ross calling Good a "f*kking ----" right after he murdered her?

"I'm talking to a head full of rocks here."

In his defense, he finished first in his class at Dunning-Kruger.

In fact, EVERYONE finished first in their class. Just ask them!!!

"??"

Try reading it. There's something about the right to peaceably assemble.

You're attaching caveats the Constitution doesn't.

"People also have the right to protest but had Pretti and Good stayed at a distance from Federal Agents and carried signs..."

Is THAT the new standard going forward???

"It's a matter of following the law. If they are not authorized in some form to be here, they should not be here."

So basically, eff the First Amendment, amirite?

My, how things have changed since J6!

"I want to know if anyone has any other ideas."

For starters, stop believing the folks who told you Renee Good was a terrorist before her body had returned to room temperature.

"They are not spread evenly at all"

Which is exactly the goal of the immigration department.

So why didn't you condemn DeSantis when he sent busloads to be dropped off on one person's front lawn?

" It doesn't take much for a state to add or lose seats due to population shift."

When, specifically, do these humans cease to be "persons" under the Constitution?

Tangentially, why did the Founding Fathers use the word "persons", when the word "citizens" already existed?