you first three are gonna have to do better than that.
--I could have written that same old shvt for you.....
#5 | Posted by shrimptacodan

I did better, much better, which is why you cowardly Trump cultists will ignore my posts.

And here is Matt Gaetz's contribution to the "Joe Scarborough is a murder story"

"The View" star confronted 'scary person' Matt Gaetz at White House, says he gave Donald Trump docs accusing MSNBC host of murder

Alyssa Farah Griffin says she urged Gaetz not to present Trump with the "printed out conspiracy theories" about Joe Scarborough.

The View cohost and former Donald Trump staffer Alyssa Farah Griffin revealed that she once confronted the president-elect's attorney general pick, controversial politician Matt Gaetz, about a conspiracy theory she said he introduced to Trump.

Griffin remembered asking him [Gaetz] what was in the folder, and its alleged contents shocked her.

"He shows me these printed out conspiracy theories that Joe Scarborough of Morning Joe and former congressman had murdered his staffer," Griffin alleged. "I said, 'Please do not show these to the President of the United States.' Then, days ensued of Donald Trump tweeting false, malicious claims about Joe Scarborough. The family of the woman who died--there was no foul play, it was a tragedy--begged Twitter and the White House to take it down, so that speaks to his character, integrity, and judgment."

Also from the transcript:

And I think that's very important. And I think it's also obviously very important. There are a lot of people that are very scared by the selection of his attorney general selection. . . .

But we spoke at length just about what Jonathan said. A lot of people are scared right now. They're scared about the threats of political retribution. They're scared about the threats of, of retribution against media people. They're scared that some potential picks have actually said they are going to arrest members of the media or go after them civilly. All that does is make people martyrs. And that's something that we said You know, you go after your political opponents, you turn 'em into martyrs, you make 'em the next president of the United States. So again, a lot of people are scared, a lot of people are nervous.

Morning Joe Hosts to 'Restart Communications' with Donald Trump After Revealing They Visited the President-Elect

'Morning Joe' hosts Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski have had fraught histories with Trump, who previously falsely accused Scarborough of murder

In May 2020, Trump even accused Scarborough of being a murderer " implying on X that the former member of the House of Representatives in Florida was to blame for the 2001 accidental death of one of his congressional aides, Lori Klausutis. This prompted the news host to pause his live show and ask Trump to stop watching "for the sake of America" and himself.

"When will they open a Cold Case on the Psycho Joe Scarborough matter in Florida. Did he get away with murder? Some people think so," Trump wrote on social media. "Why did he leave Congress so quietly and quickly? Isn't it obvious? What's happening now? A total nut job!"

From Morning Joe transcript:

Okay. So here's where we are. Over the past week, Joe and I have heard from so many people, from political leaders to regular citizens, deeply dismayed by several of President-elect Trump's cabinet elections, and they are scared. Last Thursday, we expressed our own concerns on this broadcast and even said we would appreciate the opportunity to speak with the president elect himself on Friday. We were given the opportunity to do just that. Joe and I went to Mar-a-Lago, to meet personally with President elect Trump. It was the first time we have seen him in seven years

Now. e talked about a lot of issues including abortion, mass deportation, threats of political retribution against political opponents and media outlets. We talked about that a good bit and it's gonna come as no surprise to anybody who watches this show, has watched it over the past year or over the past decade that we didn't see eye to eye on a lot of issues. And we told him. So

What we did agree on was to restart communications. My father often spoke with world leaders with whom he and the United States profoundly disagreed. That's a task shared by reporters and commentators alike. We had not spoken to President Trump since March of 2020, other than a personal call Joe made to Trump on the morning after the attempt on his life in Butler, Pennsylvania. In this meeting, president Trump was tearful. He was upbeat, he seemed interested in finding common ground with Democrats on some of the most divisive issues. And for those asking why we would go speak to the President-elect during such fraught times, especially between us.

CNN contributor Scott Jennings mocked the left's constant messaging to their supporters that Donald Trump is a fascist, only to turn around and quickly start kissing his ring following the election.
The sudden normalization of the president-elect began when Joe Biden hosted Trump for a cordial White House meeting, shaking hands with the man he's called an "existential threat to democracy" for what seems like years.
Things rose to the level of absurd when yesterday, MSNBC's "Morning Joe" co-hosts Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski admitted to visiting Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago.
Jennings could hardly stifle the laughter when joining a CNN panel to discuss the sudden shift.
"I'm amazed. I did not expect Hitler to get so many meeting requests," he quipped. "First from Joe Biden, now from Mika and Joe. It's amazing that Literal Hitler is getting all these meeting requests."
#31 | Posted by shrimptacodan

You people don't get it. Joe's motivation is probably similar to Mika and Joe's--he's hoping that Trump won't go after him or his family members, especially Hunter. It's because people know Trump is immoral, unethical, a revenge freak and as president is beyond the law, that they are trying to curry favor or at least some consdieration from "America's Hitler" (JD Vance's term, not mine).

Brian Stelter
@brianstelter.bsky.social
New reporting: According to two sources with direct knowledge, Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski were credibly concerned that they could face governmental and legal harassment from the incoming Trump administration.

George Conway
@gtconway.bsky.social
Sadly, Brian's reporting is correct. Over the past week I heard from two entirely separate very reliable sources, with some vivid detail, that they are absolutely terrified of Trump.

It actually isn't, but when all things are amped up to 11 on a knob that tops out at 10, ANY kind of simple civility is deemed horrible.
#10 | Posted by BellRinger

Their visit to King DonOLd aka Herr Fuhrer wasn't about civility or low ratings. They are scared -------- that they are on Trump's enemy list:

FTA:

Trump and his team are announcing a complete reworking of the American government. They claim a mandate, although as final vote tallies are coming in, it turns out that Trump did not win 50% of the vote, and CNN statistician Harry Enten notes that his margin comes in at 44th out of the 51 elections that have been held since 1824. He also had very short coattails"four Democrats won in states Trump carried"and the Republicans have the smallest House majority since there have been 50 states, despite the help their numbers have had from the extreme gerrymandering in states like North Carolina.

More Americans voted for someone other than Trump than voted for him.

Does this sound like a mandate to you? It doesn't sound like a mandate to me:

New @CookPolitical: Trump has fallen below 50% of the popular vote. With 152.7M votes counted, he leads Harris 49.99%-48.22%

Posted by truthhurts

If you haven't done so already, you might consider joining Blue Sky or at least stopping by for a visit. If you do, you'll realize the reistance still exists and is informed.

Jfc tuning out will achieve nothing and is exactly what ------- wants
People need to prepare for what he is unleashing.
People need to pay attention and unite in opposition.
Look at who ------- is appointing and KNOW this is what ------- wants and what he will be pushing for.

Yes, we can unite in opposition, but many people will not see what their vote has gotten them until it hits home. So now we have Muslims realizing the mistake they made. When an undocumented family member gets deported, Latinos who voted for Trump may wise up. When Trump bans the morning after pill, women who thought he wouldn't do anything more on abortion, will see what their vote has brought them. When he gets rid of the Dept of Education and the ACA without a workable replacement, more people will understand the miscalculation they made and so on and so on. In that way, I welcome the Republican overreach that is about to happen. They are reading the election results as meaning that their policies across the board are are what the American people want. I don't think that is the case, but we'll find out.

Link for the above:

With every Cabinet pick and policy proposed and enacted ask yourself one simple question: Who benefits? In many cases the answer will not be the American people.

PS I for one don't think the resistance is faiding. I think it is resting, regrouping, waiting to see what Trump actually does in terms of policy. Or to put it in a way that Trump and MAGA voters will understand, the resistance is standing back and standing by.

Latest popular vote count:

Trump
76,453,640

Harris
73,755,129

That is not a massive electoral mandate, and acting as if it is will likely spell big trouble for Republicans in in the coming months.

Noonan's point is you're not going to defeat Trump by letting him troll you into expending all your energy chasing after everything he says and does. That's how he wears people down, and ultimately defeats them.
#6 | Posted by sentinel

There is truth in what you are saying. I don't think most people individually can expand all their "energy chaing after everything he says and does." I know I can't. 4 years is a long time. Most of us will need to pick our battles. But there are tens of millions of people who voted against Trump, so there will be plenty of people to cover all of the battles, including the ones I chose to sit out. Good advice from an article I linked to in another thread:

Under a Trump presidency, there are going to be so many issues that it will be hard to accept that we cannot do it all. I'm reminded of a colleague in Turkey who told me, "There's always something bad happening every day. If we had to react to every bad thing, we'd never have time to eat."

An elder once saw me trying to do everything and pulled me aside. "That's not a healthy lifelong strategy," she said. She'd been raised in Germany by the generation of Holocaust survivors who told her, "Never again." She took it personally, as if she had to stop every wrong. It wracked her and contributed to several serious ongoing medical conditions. We can accept our humanity or suffer that lack of acceptance.

"Until 2028, normal checks can constrain Trump."
These are wise words.

Are they though? Normal checks barely contained him last time, and he's had 4 years and the help of the Heritage Foundation, the Federalist Society and most importantly the SC to lay out plans so he will not be thwarted this time. Methnks Peggy and the guy she is quoting are suffering from a failure of imagination that will soon be dispelled.

"Unaligned Americans who don't even like Trump are tired of being browbeaten for not hating him enough." If voters have made a terrible mistake, "that's a risk of democracy, so we must live with it."

I predict that if Trump follows through with his Project 2025 unaligned voters will come to hate him all on their own and no one will have to browbeat them into it.

FTA:

Trump has already signaled the kind of president he will be: revengeful, uncontrolled and unburdened by past norms and current laws. I won't go through the litany of awful things he's pledged to do, since that's been well-established with his words, Project 2025 plans and excellent analyses from authoritarian experts.

Looking into an even more destabilized future is not easy. If you're like me, you're already tired. The prospect of more drama is daunting. But authoritarianism isn't going away no matter the election results. So here's some thinking about ways to orient so we can ground ourselves better for these times ahead.

Ron Filipkowski
@RonFilipkowski

Trump didn't appoint RFK Jr because he believed he was the most qualified person to run Medicaid, Medicare, NIH, FDA, ACA, HRS, Children & Families, etc, with the largest budget in the govt.

He appointed him because he wanted his endorsement at a critical time.

That is it.

This is only reason why RFK Jr is being put in charge of public health in the US. Trump was desperate to get him to drop out and endorse him. That's why American health is in the hands of a kooky conspiracy theorist with a background even worse than Gaetz.

There Were Witnesses': Attorney for the High School Student' Matt Gaetz Is Accused of Having Sex with Calls for Release of Ethics Report

New definition of DEI under Trump and his good ole boy' network:

DEI = Didn't Earn It

Response to the above:

Alex Cole
@acnewsitics
This should be a lesson to all those groups who think they can "teach Democrats a lesson" by voting for the Republicans. He ------ around and he found out, and there's literally nothing Democrats can do right now to help him out.

"did u know that Palestinian Americans who voted for ------- are now begging Biden,... BEGGING... to do something before ------- and Huckabee take office?"

Aaron Rupar
@atrupar
"Uncommitted" Michigan delegate on CNN pleads with President Biden to do something about Netanyahu before Trump and Mike Huckabee complete an "ethnic cleansing campaign" of the West Bank and southern Lebanon

Give it up, STD. Gaetz is not a good guy. Everyone in Congress knows it. The question is whether they will stand up to Trump and nix his nominaiton or whetehr they will turn a blind eye and act like this nomination is business as usual.

We can see from this thread who the Trump sheeple are. Now we'll see which of the GOP Senators are Trump sheeple as well :

Here's the real deal: Matt Gaetz is the line for how we assess the Republican Party. If they are truly a cult of personality, beholden to Donald Trump in ways that we could not even imagine for a party that rejects cults and idol worship, they will approve this choice. But if they have a degree of independence, any kind of free thought, mindful of the fact that a presidency is four years but your career is forever, they will reject this choice so emphatically that it sends a very simple, straightforward message: you can be an absolute dirtbag wannabe pimp pounding dick pills and caffeine while you film your "girlfriend" twerking on the gram, or you can be a Republican. The choice is yours.