Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News

Drudge Retort

User Info

Idependant97

Subscribe to Idependant97's blog Subscribe

Menu

Special Features

Comments

@#16 Lamplighter... Well, as I heard one pastor preach, "If you ever go to a church and they tell you 'you can't do this' or 'you must do this' then RUN...Get out of there! Because they've just destroyed Christianity by turning it into a religion, and it's not. Christianity is a relationship. Deitric von Bonhoeffer who was a Lutheran pastor in Nazi Germany, led a failed attempt to assassinate Hitler. While in prison he started writing a book about how the Nazis had managed to infiltrate the preaching of the Lutheran church by twisting the arms of the pastors. Bonhoeffer noted that the church was too organized and "religious." His title for the book was, "Religiousless Christianity."

Religion, with it's rules and regulations, is something Jesus called out as wrong. From the people who tried to stone a woman, because according to "religious rules" that's what you were supposed to do to an adulterer, to the people who shunned a woman bleeding for months which under Jewish law meant she was "unclean" and therefore an outcast, to constantly associating with outcasts, hookers, thieves, and those types that the religious deemed unworthy, Jesus called out those following religious "rules" in their mistreatment of people (especially women, since they were the most mistreated, of course.)

He was very much against the legalistic nature of man-made religious stuff. He often got ticked off at the bad religious leadership:

Luke 11:43, "Woe to you Pharisees! For you love the front seats in the synagogues, and the respectful greetings in the market places"

Matt. 7:4, "You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye."

Luke 12:1, "Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy."

Matt. 23:23-24, "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cummin, and have neglected the weightier provisions of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness"

Matt. 23:33, "You serpents, you brood of vipers"

Those are just a few examples.

Religion is interested in getting people to serve an organized church.

Religion is fueled by fear. It causes people to focus on not wanting to end up in hell. Fear takes the focus off of Love.

Religion doesn't encourage questions.

Religion focuses on how we should be doing things.

Religion grades righteousness. It enslaves people into performing religious acts, and if you miss a prayer or a Bible study, you feel guilty about it. But "doing" religious stuff to curry God's favor isn't what Jesus taught. Since He taught that it's about a *relationship* between God and His children, that love is unconditional, and "doing" things isn't going to make you loved or not. I mean, do you love your own children or family any more or less based on what they "do?"

Religion causes judgement of others. It can make someone look down on a drug addict, or look up to a religious leader. A comparison game. Jesus was constantly hanging out with those who, even today, people consider "lower than."

So, when I hear people today complain about Christians, they often have legitimate concerns because I hear them cite Christians behaving in a "religious" sort of fashion (as per above's use of the word "religion.") They cite bigotry, or people being judgemental, or cultism, or supporting the mistreatment of a type of people, or any manner of complaints. Complaints that, even back in the day, Jesus also complained, and spoke out about. Sometimes quite harshly.

Oh, and as an aside...the same pastor I mentioned above also said, "And when anyone walks in through those doors, PLEASE never ask them 'are you saved?' That is none of our business. When they walk in they are family." Which is probably why a lot of atheists and people who weren't Christian felt welcome (with some citing how "judged" they felt in other places of "worship.")

#73 Snoofy,

Do you think that preserving the liberty of owning slaves was virtually the only reason arms were used, or was it one of several big reasons, or just a few reasons with preserving the liberty of owning slaves being the biggest?

I'm not being argumentative...just am genuinely curious......

------------------
Here's a funny, since you brought up Santa Anna...

From www.history.com

He staged a state funeral for his amputated leg.

Two years after the 1836 Battle of the Alamo, Santa Anna led a makeshift army against French forces who had invaded Veracruz, Mexico, in what has been called the "Pastry War." After the general was severely wounded by grapeshot fired from a French cannon, doctors were forced to amputate his leg, which Santa Anna buried at his Veracruz hacienda.

After he once again assumed the presidency in 1842, Santa Anna exhumed his shriveled leg, paraded it to Mexico City in an ornate coach and buried it beneath a cemetery monument in an elaborate state funeral that included cannon salvos, poetry and lofty orations. Santa Anna's severed leg did not remain in the ground for long, however.

In 1844, public opinion turned on the president, and rioters tore down his statues and dug up his leg. A mob tied the severed appendage to a rope and dragged it through the streets of Mexico City while shouting, "Death to the cripple!"

Santa Anna's prosthetic leg was captured as a battlefield trophy.

During the 1847 Battle of Cerro Gordo in the Mexican-American War, the 4th Illinois Infantry surprised Santa Anna, who fled without something quite important"his prosthetic cork and a wooden leg. The Illinois soldiers seized the leg as a trophy piece that they brought back to their home state, where it toured at country fairs before falling into the possession of the Illinois State Military Museum. The Mexican government's repeated requests to repatriate Santa Anna's fake limb have been denied.

"Violent rwing white nationalists have been the largest threat of Domestic Terrorism in this country for several decades now. But that's only according to Homeland Security, the FBI, and every US agency that's ever reported on it."
--Corky
-----------------------------------------------------------
Violent right-wingers are of course extremely dangerous...but they weren't always considered the number one threat. Of course extremists of any group can be dangerous, whether right-wing, left-wing or chicken-wing. (Because most violent people of these groups, in my opinion, are a bunch of wimpy-azzed chickens looking for a way to wear a black mask and blow up stuff for their mentally deranged entertainment.)

In the 2000's eco-terrorists were considered to be the greatest domestic threat, according to the FBI.

"In 2006 the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) announced that it considered ecoterrorism by animal rights activists to be the greatest domestic security threat facing the United States. In 2009 an American animal rights activist, Daniel Andreas San Diego, became the first "domestic terrorist" to be placed on the FBI's Most Wanted Terrorists list."

www.britannica.com

And from 60 minutes:

"This story originally aired on Nov. 13, 2005.

When they first emerged in the mid-1990s, the environmental extremists calling themselves the "Earth Liberation Front" announced they were "the burning rage of a dying planet."

Ever since, the ELF, along with its sister group, the Animal Liberation Front, has been burning everything from SUV dealerships to research labs to housing developments.

In the last decade, these so-called "eco-terrorists" have been responsible for more than $100 million in damages. And their tactics are beginning to escalate.

Some splinter groups have set off homemade bombs and threatened to kill people. As correspondent Ed Bradley first reported last November, things have gotten so bad, the FBI now considers them the country's biggest domestic terrorist threat."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/burning-rage/

In a related topic, here's a story from April 30, 2025 titled "Why CBS Keep Cancelling Popular Shows?"
stankevicius.co

CBS has a history of canning popular shows. Going all the way back to the "Rural Purge" in the early 1970's.

IF, and I mean IF, CBS was intending to cancel the Late Show along with the myriad of other popular shows they were cancelling, then they should not have announced it just days after Cobert called out CBS for settling with Trump. They should have done it sooner, or quite a bit later. Making the announcement when they did looks very suspect.

Their not just getting rid of Colbert, they're not going to replace him. The entire show will be cancelled. They canned The Late Late show already. All the late night shows on all networks have seen declining ratings for some time now. Yes, Colbert was number one...and by far. But number one in a declining field. (Links in #25 above.)

In 2024, it was reported that The Late show saw a 32% drop in revenue over the last five years. There's also been a huge drop in younger people watching.

So again, yes, he's number one. But number one in a field where even Fallon has had to go to just new shows on four nights a week (reruns on Friday.) Seth Meyers had to get rid of his live band on his show.

As far back as 2012 budgets were being cut. Jay Leno opted to take a 50% pay cut in his salary (from 30 million/year to $15 million) so that none of his staff would be laid off.

And yes, Colbert may have had a bump up this year in revenue, but over the last several years, they ALL have been declining.

THAT BEING SAID...the timing of this is suspect of course. Right after Colbert criticized CBS, the entire show gets cancelled next year.

So some possibilities are, CBS canned Colbert, and the entire show, as payback. Or CBS was going to do this anyway and it's just a coincidence on the timing. Or CBS was thinking about doing this, and Colbert's comments just gave them the excuse they needed to can the show.

To be honest, Colbert would probably do better as a podcast anyway. Late night talk shows on tv are on a sinking ship. This may be a blessing in disguise for Colbert.

Found a better link (longer) for the Tangerine Dream live in 1975..

www.youtube.com

I think you'll get a kick out of seeing the band "shape" their music twisting knobs, using looping tape effects...And creating LIVE that amazing sound without any digital anything...

Drudge Retort
 

Home | Breaking News | Comments | User Blogs | Stats | Back Page | RSS Feed | RSS Spec | DMCA Compliance | Privacy