#14 Could be a combo, if they were not part of a program of some kind. In the olden days, the job before last, we used to see vehicles larded like that on those chewed up roads, dirt tops, ditch banks, etc. just hauling ass. They could have been looking for work off the books, or they may have been heading to a safe house. They're everywhere in this valley. They definitely would not have gotten passed BP checkpoints in any direction out of the valley. 8W, 8E, 86, and 111 all have thorough checkpoints - not with 25 people in an SUV.