And the SC perfectly set up this take over with the immunity decision.

The independence of the DoJ is gone. ------- will turn the DoJ into a political police force.

And even if an honorable person sneaks into the DoJ, the SC is looking to get rid of Special Counsels, so, yeah, another independent weapon-poof gone.

People will be arguing about the size of his inauguration audience, while he is attacking in every conceivable direction.

The journalists not taking this serious will be among the first to fall.

And, yes I go believe within 18 months I will get a knock on my door from a pasty faced political enforcer to reeducate me, lowly me.

Just a reminder that ------- is the only person who has been adjudicated in a court of law to be ineligible to hold the office of President

Biden is clearly not in charge and hasn't been. So, if he's on the ballot, who am I actually voting for or against? Can anyone on this site share some insight?

#35 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Maybe you should expend your energies calling for the adjudicated insurrectionist to be drop out.

It was a piss poor decision because the intent was to avoid a political morass.

the plain language of the 14th is obvious. They had to make stuff out of whole cloth to reach the foregone conclusion. Because they wanted to punt down the road and avoid corrupt republican --- for tat.

The dissent doesn't even make sense, states can't keep his name off, but neither can Congress? That is ridiculous

And of course, it runs completely counter to THIS court's actions on voting rights (you know the 1st article of the 14th) where they said the states should be presumed to be acting honorably relative to elections, so OF COURSE states can fashion racist laws and pass racist gerrymandered maps, there is not role for congress in THAT-so get rid of the Voting Rights Act

You know what else is a sign of progressive Alzheimer's and it is lying

What Americans will be shocked at most will be the swiftness of the transformation.

------- will be issuing EOs at blistering speed banning mifepristone, pushing the DoJ to enforce the Comstock Act, enforcing Muslim bans, firing 1,000s of government employees, rounding up immigrants and so much more.

As American react with protests ------- will quickly mobilize the national guard to put them down with very draconian rules of engagement.

The radical fringe whackos are preparing for this, they will be ready and Americans will be shocked at how quickly it will all play out because he will do it all without bothering to have Congress pass any bills.

Americans are in for a very harsh lesson on the destabilization of governments.

And trust me there will be MANY republicans and magats who will not like the results.

That destabilization will have a huge impact on the economy-like a depression level event-the one's promulgating this stuff don't understand economics. You can strip millions of low wage workers (agricultural, food service, building, transportation) from society without destroying the economy.

The Constitution empowers Congress to prescribe how
those determinations should be made. The relevant provi
sion is Section 5, which enables Congress, subject of course
to judicial review, to pass "appropriate legislation" to "en
force" the Fourteenth Amendment. See City of Boerne v.
Flores, 521 U. S. 507, 536 (1997). Or as Senator Howard
put it at the time the Amendment was framed, Section 5
"casts upon Congress the responsibility of seeing to it, for
the future, that all the sections of the amendment are car
ried out in g

Next congress starts 1/3/2025

Certification of Vote 1/6/2025

I see ABSOLUTELY no reason why a new democratic controlled congress shouldn't refuse to certify his election (assuming he wins) and certify his VP as President-

Run on that, if it aint true make it true

scare voters into thinking Tim Scott will be president instead of -------

the Colorado Supreme Court reversed in
part and affirmed in part by a 4 to 3 vote. Reversing the
District Court's operative holding, the majority concluded
that for purposes of Section 3, the Presidency is an office
under the United States and the President is an officer of
the United States. The court otherwise affirmed, holding
(1) that the Colorado Election Code permitted the respond
ents' challenge based on Section 3; (2) that Congress need
not pass implementing legislation for disqualifications un
der Section 3 to attach; (3) that the political question doc
trine did not preclude judicial review of former President
Trump's eligibility; (4) that the District Court did not abuse
its discretion in admitting into evidence portions of a con
gressional Report on the events of January 6; (5) that the
District Court did not err in concluding that those events
constituted an "insurrection" and that former President
Trump "engaged in" that insurrection; and (6) that former
President Trump's speech to the crowd that breached the
Capitol on January 6 was not protected by the First Amend
ment. See id., at 1a"114a.

Why are you not up in arms demanding that an insurrectionist drop out of the race?

From Trump vs. Anderson

"After a five-day trial, the state District Court found that
former President Trump had "engaged in insurrection"
within the meaning of Section 3,"

It means plenty to me. With Trump it went before SCOTUS and was ------------- down 9-0. Clearly, it didn't apply.
But, you are deflecting a bit. Democrats have a legitimate problem in 3 states if Biden drops out.

#22 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

As usual, you demonstrate your ignorance vis a vis any legal matter

The Colorado Courts found ------- to be an insurrectionist.

The SC found that it was not up to the states to make a determination that a candidate was ineligible for a federal office.

It was a piss poor decision, counter to everything that the SC has said about the 14th Amendment cases-see voting rights cases.

"It will come down to just a handful of states that are going to decide the presidential election," Roberts said. "That's a pretty daunting consequence."

Has Roberts ever been acquainted with the electoral college?

The 5 conservatives, without Barrett said it was up to Congress.

The SC decidedly did not say ------- wasn't an insurrectionist

And if I recall correctly, his lawyer didn't even argue that.

So, Congress, say you won't seat the insurrectionist.

------- should quit the race

What implications would THAT have for the republican party

------- should drop out because he is an adjudicated insurrectionist.

If Dems were smart they would run on a platform that ------- would not be allowed to take the oath of office, that he is an adjudicated insurrectionist and the Constitution demands that he not be permitted to take the oath of office.

Then the race can be between Biden and Tim Scott or Doug Bergen

If ------- wins, Americans will be shocked at the transformation that America will go through by this date 1 year from now.

So many things Americans hold dear and thought unassailable will simply be gone-poof.

There will be many around here that will cheer it on.

And more than a few, when honest with themselves, will have more than a modicum of buyer's remorse.

Who?

Whoer?

---Average American

Not to be trusted with the "2am phonecall".
#14 | POSTED BY FRESNO500

I honestly don't know which candidate this refers to.

Stop being defeatist. ------- is eminently beatable

In 1775 patriotic colonists put their lives and treasures on the line to throw off the yoke of a repressive monarchy

In 1861 millions of patriotic Unionist put their lives on the line to preserve the Union.

In 1941 millions of patriotic Americans put their lives on the line to prevent fascists from taking over much of the world.

In 2024 millions of patriotic Americans are called to go to their local election precinct and cast a vote for the one person in this country who can prevent a fascist takeover.

I accept no excuse.

The duty is clear.

I am sick and tired of people who bemoan Biden for any sin, who think they are being moral by not voting for him out of ANY concern.

I am sick and tired of various constituencies criticizing Biden for failure to "support them" or do as they want.

Ask not what your country can do for you, ask instead, what you can do for your country!

Americans are called this November to choose between democracy and fascism. I don't care if a box of rain is on the democratic ticket. Vote or be condemned through history for your failure.

Why does affirmation matter to you so much?
#125 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Because election denialism lead to an insurrection and to this day is still being promulgated by the presumptive presidential nominee and the integrity of elections is critical to the functioning of our or any democracy?

{SNIP}
you can't make a silk purse from a sows ear and the kids come to school so woefully unprepared on so many different levels.
just another problem that hasn't been addressed...actually a problem that hasn't even been honestly identified.
{SNIP}
#14 | POSTED BY BRERRABBIT A

You do understand that this is the underlying theory classified and studied as Critical Race Theory, right?

You get that right?

CRT being the study of the causes of disparate outcomes for different races.

Conservative "values" truly flummox me.

I read the entire link and it conforms 100% to what I've been told by several former teachers regarding black behavior in school.
you can't make a silk purse from a sows ear and the kids come to school so woefully unprepared on so many different levels.
just another problem that hasn't been addressed...actually a problem that hasn't even been honestly identified.
would you accept project 2025 if it meant kids graduated high school reading at grade level?
I ask that because obviously project 2025 engenders strong negative responses on this site...should the outrage be better served directed toward the state of public education, specific to the article, black education?
We have a lot on our plates

#14 | POSTED BY BRERRABBIT A

Serious question, how will denying the existence of the underlying causes (which is an essential tenant of Project 2025) of the alleged problems with black students aid in improving the educational results of black students.

Either we win with Biden or hand ------- the presidency

The Dems better decide whether they want to hand the Presidency to Trump, or replace Biden with another candidate, real soon.

#5 | POSTED BY WHATSLEF

First it has to be demonstrated that replacing Biden would result in it being more likely to defeat -------

Project 2025 wants to do away with standards that want to prevent discrimination in discipline.

You all are missing Boaz' point.

Boaz does not believe in democracy as you understand it.

He believes in the supremacy of the state, thus he is a republican.

A republican, ironically enough, in his mind actually being strongly anti-federalist.

Thus, when you argue that our democracy is under attack, in his mind he thinks "GREAT!"

Boaz, despite what would be considered inherent in an anti-federalist position, is not a strong believer in individual rights (except the right to bear arms).

Boaz, thus holds a weird permutation of antebellum beliefs, something that should have died in 1865.

Boaz, thinking the state is supreme thinks of the Presidency as an entity that should return power to the states.

But, Boaz is not a deep thinker. Boaz does not see the danger of an imperial presidency. Boaz cannot see beyond the end of his nose that the danger a ------- poses to his "state's rights" position. Boaz can only see a president that holds antagonistic views of the same people he does-LGBTQ, immigrants, poor people. Boaz does not realize that -------, like any good authoritarian, has zero core values and will do what he wants in the moment that he thinks is in his best interest.

Boaz cannot conceive how an attitude like that will bite his state's right's ass in the ass.

------- will use his power to infringe on the things Boaz holds dear at the exact instance it benefits -------. Say, for example, when his power is threatened by the 2nd amendment. Boaz forgets ------- saying the following "Take the guns first, go through due process second".

No, long story short, Boaz is right, you cannot have a conversation with him, because you misunderstand where he is coming from, and he is not intelligent enough to recognize the danger he is in.

Project 2025 has already begun to be implemented.