Mob speak

Now combine that with threats against taffensberger in the same phone call

Good let the magat scum suffer

Va healthcare that is

I assume you are calling me a conspiracy nut. But how is it a conspiracy to say if they get rid of the va that va insurance will go away?

Point and laugh at the veterans who voted for -------

The magat scum gonna lose their healthcare!!!

I mean, is it me? This seems to be the simplest easiest thing to conclude. Allow trans kids the same options as cis kids. Why is this even a question?

FFS this leads to happier more well adjusted people.

Like what the actual ---- is wrong with people?

You don't know these people, you don't have to interact with them, let them be.

" A cis kid can get puberty blockers and hormone therapy for birth control, but a trans kid cannot for GAC."

A trans kid can get those things for BIRTH CONTROL.

#72 | Posted by BellRinger

If the procedure is safe for birth control, how can denial be justified for GAC?

If the procedure is unsafe for GAC, how can it be safe for birth control?

Why is a trans person discriminated in their healthcare based on the gender they were assigned at birth vs their actual identity?

Please, tell the class at what point in your life you chose to be a man and who convinced you, you could be one?

#70 | Posted by ClownShack

Jeff isn't a man, he is a piece of sentient ----.

If it's a medical necessity due to a child having say early puberty, doesn't matter whether or not the kid is trans, ALL are able to receive that care due to a physical condition.

#71 | Posted by BellRinger

Umm not a trans kid cannot get puberty blockers for THEIR specific physical condition.

Are you arguing trans kid has to lie to his doctor to receive the care?

Or are you parsing that this type of condition warrants allowance of the procedure while this type of condition the same procedure is not permitted?

If the procedure is unsafe, why is it allowed for cis? if it is safe why is it prohibited to trans?

Shouldn't the medical professionals make that decision and not the courts or the government?

Jeff, simple question for you.

Why can a cis kid get puberty blockers and a trans kid cannot?

A lot of discussion when everyone knows how SCOTUS is going to rule on this already.

#66 | Posted by REDIAL

And it will be a barbaric, unjust decision counter to our constitution.

No donner it goes beyond that

Jeff's link says a child can get puberty blockers and hormone therapy for birth control, but NOT for GAC.

THIS IS THE EXACT THING THE SUPREME COURT IS LOOKING AT!

A cis kid can get puberty blockers and hormone therapy for birth control, but a trans kid cannot for GAC.

That is discrimination and judges should not be deciding medical issues, the GAC is safe as evident by the fact that Cis kids can get the exact same therapy

" of suicidal ideation"

What about suicide rates? Children actually following through?

#59 | Posted by BellRinger

Learn to google you piece of ----.

Any ------- idiot can see the obvious correlation between ideation and attempts.

It's barbaric and the Europeans are actually ahead of us on this in terms of turning things back around.

That it's happening at the same time as DEI which fosters and promotes racial resentment and hatred marks a truly dark time in our countrys's history. Thankfully the tide is turning on both of these toxic insanities. Girls and women are beginning to reclaim their identities, private spaces and sports. People are waking up and the public parental instinct is kicking in to protect children from life altering medical procedures.

#54 | Posted by BellRinge

Despite your feelings jeff, science tells us it is the opposite of barbaric.

In fact, condemning children to depression and suicide because YOU don't understand it is the epitome of barbaric.

And you can ---- right off with your faux empathy with women and girls cause you don't give a ---- about trans boys and trans men, in fact you encourage their suicides and self harm and depression and ostracization from society YOu are a vile human, beyond contemptible.

Look at jeff lie again.

the parents have to consent refers to medication and surgery-see posts 40 and 41

YOUR link explicitly does NOT permit those actions-iow you are a lying piece of ----.

Again, from YOUR link

" Depending on your provider, you might be able to get puberty blockers and/or hormone treatment at any age without an adult's consent as part of birth control services.

This is explicitly NOT for gender identity but for birth control services, you know what cis kids can get too and once the SC rules trans will not while cis can. MY EXACT POINT

and

"you might be able to get consultations related to gender identity if you are age 13 or older without an authorized adult's consent,"

You do understand the word consultation, right? That the child can talk to a doctor without fear that the doctor will tell their parents who will kick them out of the house. This is CONSULTATION, NOT medical intervention.

A minor lacks the metal capacity to fully understand the long term impacts of gender reassignment.

#50 | Posted by BellRinger

Good thing that GAC recognizes the mental capacity of children when it is enacted.

You know, by letting the child direct the GAC with the informed support of loving family and trained professionals, assuring that the child understands the process which takes years, including simple affirmation of identity, name and expression changes in safe environments, followed by gender expression over years into more safe spaces like school or public spaces, followed by, if the child and family choose-some medication aids (that do not cause lasting harm and are reversible). You know, ethics.

Prior to initiating unspecified gender-affirming treatment(s), 73.3% of the sample reported a history of suicidal ideation; this percentage dropped to 43.4% following the initiation of gender-affirming treatment.

I realize that --------- like jeff refuse to believe science, but this is from the NIH, you know, experts.

" The parents still have to agree to it"

Well ... .

www.washingtonlawhelp.org

#45 | Posted by BellRinger

ANNNDDD We catch jeff is ANOTHER lie.

Children cannot receive GAC consisting of hormone therapy without parental consent. But get this, CIS (and I suppose trans) kids can get blockers and hormone therapy as part of birth control.

Jeff just proved the opposite of what he claimed LOL

Depending on your provider, you might be able to get puberty blockers and/or hormone treatment at any age without an adult's consent as part of birth control services.

Laura are you significantly happier since transitioning? (having to deal with the likes of jeff not withstanding).

If a boy who is a minor wants to wear a dress - go right ahead with parent approval.

Coaching and encouraging kids to reject their biological sex is terrible.

#42 | Posted by BellRinge

Jeff is a ------- moron.

Sentence 1 is GAC

Sentence 2 DOES NOT HAPPEN.

Jeff is vile piece of ---- who does not care about children harming and killing themselves. In fact, he advocates for it by expressing lies.

If he did, he would show concern about the trans kids who kill and harm themselves for lack of therapy and GAC"

Chemically castrating kids and surgically mutilating their bodies does not improve their mental health.

#40 | Posted by BellRinger

Kids are receiving medical and psychological care that improves their mental and physical well being.

You're a piece of ---- for implying this is somehow nefarious

" Why is a ***child permitted to get the EXACT same procedures?"

When doctors prescribe those procedures it's due to a PHYSICAL problem.

#39 | Posted by BellRinger

No, it's not

And to be perfectly clear, jeff does not give a ---- about children. Not one iota.

If he did, he would show concern about the trans kids who kill and harm themselves for lack of therapy and GAC.

It is disgusting.

That is the clearest of evidence that he is a vile human being. A soulless ----.

Minors can't get tattoos. They can't purchase cigarettes or alcohol.

Yet, the left wants them to be able to consent to permanent life-altering chemical and surgical procedures. It doesn't make sense and quite honestly it's perverse and cruel.

#35 | Posted by BellRinger

Why is a cis child permitted to get the EXACT same procedures?

Why, when a cis child receives the EXACT same procedures, that is not perverse and cruel?

Until you can answer that honestly you are a disgusting, vile hateful bigot.

This is barbaric