Did you know Piggy condemns Canada for their wildfire and recognizes "we didn't use to see these massive wildfires" {paraphrase]

Yes Piggy those wildfires are due to YOUR climate change policies and the result of your party's climate policies for the past 3 decades

Why are only the war mongers who are always wrong the only ones taken seriously?

Where are the people who are for a rational, adult, moderate intelligent foreign policy?

Why do we have to cut funding for the poor and sick around the world (cutting USAID) when we spend a million percentage more on defense?

Never mind the massive corruption

Never mind the lack of any proper accounting

Never mind the damage this military socialism creates

Never mind the addiction to military spending this creates in our economy

never mind the wars this spending absolutely demands

Never mind the inevitable collapse from all of this debt

Never mind the raising up of scum like hegseth

Never mind the cost in dead and wounded servicemen

I ask why can't anyone argue for peace, for diplomacy, for NOT ------- killing?

instead, for just a trillion we could get

Potential Social Program Impacts

Direct Cash Payments: Provide roughly $7,500 to each American household if distributed equally.

Higher Education: Pay for the complete four-year college tuition and costs for about 7.7 million students.

Childhood Support: Raise and support 4.3 million children from birth through age 18, covering all of their basic living and development needs.

Healthcare and Nutrition: Fund major portions of federal health coverage or food assistance, which already span over 80 distinct means-tested programs nationwide.

------- madness

No one even debates whether we should be spending this money

or

what it is being spent on

why not $2 trillion or $5 trillion

Who gives a ----

$1 and a half TRILLION

that is more than the next 14 countries combined

3 of which-Russia, Ukraine and Israel are in an active shooting war

This is ------- madness

America is ------- crazy

I
Told
You
So

Houthis shut down Red Sea

Keep in mind that many if not most of what Piggy posts on Lie Social are official government announcements.

The corruption is mind blowing

This is literally him selling press releases about government policies.

America started this illegal, unjust, unjustifiable war of aggression with a cowardly sneak attack that murdered the Iranian leader and babies. We launched a murderous attack during negotatations.

We are the bad guys

We deserve to suffer

Clearly these soldiers were testosterone deficient

The new normal

Are you ready for God to judge you?
Are your sins forgiven?

#108 | Posted by BillJohnson a

what god? what sins?

are you ready for the infinity of nothing?

On the one hand christians won't judge you

one the other hand christians call you a sinner

F christians

Sorry to correct you bill

You are a horrible human being

Just sayin

This thread is exemplar of why I have cut way back on my posting around here.

The drudgery of debating someone who at best is a troll

It gets taxing after a while

And then quite boring

Zed,
You should learn more about how religion and faith shape different cultures.
Religions are not interchangeable, and they do not all influence people or societies in the same way.
I'm no expert, but you do not seem to understand even the basics.

#82 | Posted by BillJohnson

Present some evidence of Iran acting on their religious beliefs instead of rationally.

Truth,
However, while usually thats not the case, for America it's the exception rather than the rule, such as Japan.
What will it take to finally bring Iran's bullying to an end?

#75 | Posted by BillJohnson

what are you referring to?

What exception are you talking about?

Cowardly sneak attacks?

Japan at least INTENDED to put the declaration of war in our hands before the attack.

Japan attacked military objectives and not Roosevelt or Roosevelt's grandkids

Piggy, just in the past year

Attacked Venezuelan boats without declaration, justification or notice
Invaded Venezuela to kidnap its leader, without declaration, justification or notice
Attacked Iran TWICE, without justification, declaration or notice

We are currently acting FAR WORSE than we condemned Japan for.

Cowardly sneak attack assassinations are despicable.

"Same exact thing is true about America"
You hit the ball way into left field on that.

#73 | Posted by BillJohnson

Are you saying I am incorrect?

Are you saying

America is NOT willing to inflict enormous harm to achieve it's objectives?

You're saying its willingness to inflict enormous harm and absorb enormous losses to achieve its objectives gives it considerable power?
#64 | Posted by BillJohnson

I honestly don't understand how someone could be as thick as you. that is why I think you are a troll

"...thinking we can predict or influence the behavior of people whose worldview we simply don't understand."

I agree with your conclusions except this

Iran has been and has always acted from a logical and reasoned position. They are Shia, the sunnis are the nutters who blow themselves up.

They have acted rationally and with great restraint, very measured and intelligence throughout this whole conflict

the problem is OUR leaders have no clue what they are doing. THEY do not understand Iran's perspective, not because Iran's worldview is not understandable from a western perspective, it is due to a lack of empathy and willful ignorance of the magat leadership.

Iran's behavior has been completely predictable. And ----, be honest, Iran has acted FAR more honorably than America or Israel/

Again

One must consider this from Iran's perspective

Piggy unilaterally pulled out of the JCPOA while Iran was abiding by it

Iran was willing to negotiate with Piggy

Piggy attacked them in summer 2025 DURING negotiations, without warning or declaration-this is vile.

Iran began negotiations with the US again at the end of 2025 into 2026.

Once again Piggy attacked them without warning, without ANY justification. this was cowardly and despicable.

Piggy killed Iran's more moderate leader (along with infants) in a cowardly sneak attack

Piggy killed Iran's primary negotiators

Piggy and Israel BRAGGED about their ability to do the above and the successes they had doing so

Piggy regular threatens to kill MORE Iranian leaders including Iranian negotiators-he did so just last week

Piggy has threatened to end Iran's civilization.

Piggy has lies constantly about Iran's nuclear program and their nuclear capabilities and intentions

The US may ignore Piggy's threats like the meaningless bluster, but Iran doesn't.

Piggy's justifications and goals have shifted constantly over the past months, while Iran's have stayed consistent.

Piggy is allied with a genociding aggressor nation who is committing war crimes daily, who has assassinated Iranians for decades.

Iran holds leverage against regime change that if they give up will certainly come back to bite them in the ass

Iran has ZERO incentive for any deal

ESPECIALLY since Piggy has shown himself completely and utterly untrustworthy.

These are simple truths

I'll assume you aren't singing its praises.
You're saying its willingness to inflict enormous harm and absorb enormous losses to achieve its objectives gives it considerable power?

#64 | Posted by BillJohnson

"You're saying its willingness to inflict enormous harm and absorb enormous losses to achieve its objectives gives it considerable power?"

Same exact thing is true about America, we can inflict enormous harm on Iran to achieve our goals though we have demonstrated a significant greater sensitivity to losses.

I am saying control over a large percentage of critical materials gives Iran massive strategic power.

That is a simple fact

There is nothing we can do to prevent Iran from asserting that power

Truth,
"There is nothing we can do" is every bit as absolute and unrealistic as claiming Iran could never rebuild anything.
Never say never.

#63 | Posted by BillJohnson

Can you express a realistic alternative to my conclusions?

I referred earlier to this being one of the largest strategic defeats in memory

I was not being hyperbolic.

We have handed control over 20% of the world's oil to Iran.

Along with a substantial portion of other critical materials including fertilizer

Iran can and will now control that.

That means sanctions will be lifted. Iran will insist on that

You think countries like S. Korea or Japan or India or Indonesia gives two ----- about the US vs Iran's control of the strait? They need the oil and will pay for it. Otherwise their economies crash.

It is that simple.

Iran now has these countries as clients.

No other country, except maybe Russia (due to sanctions) has the capacity to meet that demand.

That makes Iran a great power.

At least as great as Russia.