"Again, this incident remains under investigation, and nobody here at the White House, including the president of the United States, wants to see Americans hurt or killed and losing their lives in American streets," she responded. ...

It's a great sign that your administration is doing well when your press secretary has to make a statement like this.

btw... The Bronze Age (c. 3300-1200 BCE)
You are making yourself the fool here.
#141 | Posted by Corky

the christian myths are founded on the bronze age myths I thought a scholar like yourself would be aware of that.

That may be what TH is doing tonight... killing off pathogens &)

#143 | Posted by Corky

If I could kill the pathogen of the public expression of religion or at least the use of religion to justify public policy, I'd feel like I accomplished something beneficial

I admittedly am often a black and white thinker about morality. Especially as I get older. While I find some things have become more gray, I find myself quicker to pass judgement on other things.

Giving wine to an alcoholic is not a morally positive act.

The gentleman speaking in the short video has several doctorates from Oxford, including a specialty in Group Theory aka Abstract Algebra.

I bet you can keep up, though.

#140 | Posted by Corky

Can your doctor explain the morality of giving an alcoholic wine?

The alcohol in wine and beer kills off pathogens.
Or if it doesn't, it becomes foul and you knew not to drink it.

#142 | Posted by snoofy

A slower death filled with tragedy and humiliation is not better

Wine was much safer and healthier to drink than most water in those days, period.

IT
WAS
STILL
ALCOHOLIC
THUS
STILL
DANGEROUS
POISON

Hey, how about THIS for a first miracle?
BOILING WATER!!

#132
You aren't normally this incoherent; making stuff up to fit your whine.
When's the last time you read the NT?
Which Oxford and Stanford professors did you study under?
#136 | Posted by Corky

I didn't make up the Lazarus story. Some bronze era peasants did.

How come YOU can't justify it.

Was Lazarus not Jesus' friend?

Was Lazarus not the friend of the disciples?

Isn't it a tad selfish to bring your OWN friend back from the dead?

Is bringing someone back from the dead even a good thing?

Look at the ---- your AI answer uses to justify

Key reasons and symbolism:
To reveal His glory: The Gospel of John presents this as the "beginning of signs" that showed Jesus' divine nature, causing His disciples to believe.
TH: Again his "glory" was to create a beverage that harms people.
To save the wedding: He rescued the hosts from shame by providing far more excellent wine than they had, showing His care for people's needs.
TH: God forbid his wealthy host be embarrassed. What a joke.
Symbol of new covenant: The large quantity of the best wine signifies the superabundant grace, joy, and fulfillment of God's new era, replacing the old, insufficient system (represented by the water jars for ritual cleansing).
TH: Wow what a stretch. HA God's superabundant grace is a poison to people. well that does hold a truth in it
Creation power: It mirrored God's creation of matter from nothing, showcasing Jesus as the Creator.
TH: Well this is just wrong. He didn't create matter he transformed matter. So 1/6th of the justification is just wrong
Spiritual transformation: The miracle symbolizes Jesus' ability to transform the undesirable (water, sin, or struggling desires) into something pure and joyful (wine, righteousness, new life).
TH: Water is undesirable. LOL, I LOVE water far more that wine. STRUGGLLING DESIRES!!! What about those alcoholics struggling with their desire for you know, alcohol. There is little pure and joyful about an alcoholic pissing and puking himself to an early grave
Foreshadowing the Cross: The wine can also symbolize the blood of Christ, offering cleansing and eternal life, with the best wine (His sacrifice) coming last, fulfilling all things.
TH: Yep nothing says religion more than alcohol being symbol of god

Truth Hurts Donut

#131
You are just babbling nonsense again.... and I'm not going to write out several paragraphs when your question is easily answered with the standard facts... something even AI knows, rofl.
I assure you, no Jews were hurt in the making of this wine.

#133 | Posted by Corky a

So, you deny reality to justify your insanity.

not surprising

Simple fact

around 1/10th of people are alcoholics

Therefore, around 1 in every 10 people at the Cana wedding were alcoholics

Jesus turned water into wine for these people

Jesus made wine for alcoholics

To keep a party going

To keep a party going

That was Jesus' first miracle

To harm alcoholics

You see Corky, this is the problem with religion. You consider it in the most basic of logic the myth falls apart completely

And this is the miracle that christians tout as Jesus' coming out miracle, his glory-hurting people.

Thank god for that Laura

And how the ---- is it ethical MORAL to bring some dead guy back from the dead. That sounds devilishly cruel to me

But oh yeah, he was jesus' friend. So, Jesus was being a selfish ----- when he dragged a bloated festering corpse back to life

So, you can't answer so you rely on AI

that's kind of ironic but I digress

You cannot justify Jesus' first miracle causing active harm can you?

You cannot explain why with all of the war and famine and pestilence and disease and child death and leprosy and rampant ignorance and a literal life expectancy of 30 to 35 years why Jesus chose, as his first miracle, CHOSE mind you

to keep a party going.

All the other BS ai spouts as why could easily be accomplished by jesus actually helping someone in need.

but jesus CHOSE to actively hurt people to reveal his glory

The guy with liver disease probably could have done without jesus' glory

Like you could give birth via the sphincter...

#16 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Your momma did after the train finished ------- her up the ass

you call that your birthday

OOOOh some tik tok video discovered intelligent design so Jesus must be real

Question for you

Jesus supposed first miracle was turning water into wine

Since there is a high probability that some at that wedding were alcoholics how is providing alcoholics with alcohol a good thing?

How is making sure a wedding feast goes on so as to not shame a host a reasonable priority for god?

Seems more like the miracle of a devil to me

What I can't quite understand is how you Republicans get so burned by other people's kindness towards each other, that you want to smash it.

#121 | Posted by snoofy

"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."

John Kenneth Galbraith

Well, remember all those things JC said about gays and trans and abortions and border security... wait, he never mentioned any of that.
But don't remember all the things he said about loving one another, taking care of the poor, the hungry, those in prison, immigrants, and strangers.
He also mentioned that his Dad was not running a Meritocracy; that no one is perfect.
#115 | Posted by Corky

If Jesus was real, which he ain't, today he would most CERTAINLY be hanging with the gays and the trans and those seeking abortions and those immigrants seeking asylum and those in prisons.

That is just how fictional Jesus was portrayed in the fiction novel "The Bible"

Whose sins are the worst?"

#117 | Posted by BillJohnson a

Yours. Your sins are the worst.

Truth Hurts Donut

JFC thanks president piggy and magat scum

Sure ---- brag about your wife ------- you! LOL

Trust me with your wife that is no difficult trick.

What does that mean exactly?? If I own a business open to the public and I don't want guns brought into the establishment I don't have that right is that what I am hearing anyway???

#4 | Posted by LauraMohr

Correct, that is what is at issue.

Hawaii passed a law saying a gun owner has to receive express permission to permit bringing a gun onto their property. Gun owners are arguing that is unconstitutional. SC conservatives will likely vote that way too.

Think the no shoes no service rule in reverse.

Gun? No service. Nope you can't do that.

Funny thing it also runs counter to the conservative's usual claims of property ownership supremacy, where laws don't apply to private land.

I am going to take an unpopular position.

If Pretti did not have a gun he'd be alive

That does not justify the murder or blame the victim, but is a simple fact

Your gun is more likely to kill you or a loved one than a bad guy

You don't realize how pathetic your response is

Someone who wouldnt ---- you