At the presidential suck President Piggy's dick meeting, aka Cabinet meeting, Hegseth said, essentially, he witnessed first bomb hit, saw the boat aflame and left for another meeting "not waiting around for another hour or 2"

He said it was 'fog of war' and the boat posed a threat after the first bomb.

He said the admiral (can't recall his name) ordered the second strike and he supported him

Either the admiral issued an illegal order OR obeyed an illegal order.

Either way a court martial is necessary and the facts of the matter should come out.

If this admiral had half a brain he should have gotten written orders

If he didn't well he is an idiot.

Either way the admiral is a criminal.

President Piggy is a felon, conman, liar, sexual predator, insurrectionist who had zero plans for governing other than fascism and project 2025 that he denied but is actually his administration's goals.

Kamala Harris is a normal human being.

It should not have been close.

As an aside I want to point out that I was on this weeks ago when it first became known.

Like usual the world catches up with my brilliance.

But yeah that was a rough 10 minutes for the ---anese.

LOL on the censor

America quakes in it's boots at a poverty stricken Venezuelan clinging to some pieces of wood in the middle of the Caribbean. Need to drop a 1,000 ton bomb on him.

thanks magat scum

his could result in the President of the United States issuing a pardon to a war criminal. Let that sink in, voters,

He already has

"Let's make one thing crystal clear: That guy over there is the guy you want."

LOL

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Yeah, dementia

Department of Defense Law of War Manual,
Sec. 183.2.1 states the "requirement" to
refuse illegal orders.
What's its key example? Wait for it... It's
"orders to fire upon the shipwrecked."

Imma just gonna point out the obvious. No one is disobeying these OBVIOUSLY illegal orders

We had one resignation (early retirement) and he ain't in front of cameras screaming the truth

I believe we have had a few lawyers in So. Command quit too, I may be incorrect as I am going by memory

This does not give me confidence that the military will refuse to shoot American citizens.

I give a ----

I don't want my country doing ---- that we prosecuted nazis for

Heinz-Wilhelm Eck, who was executed for ordering his crew to shoot the survivors of a torpedoed ship. Karl Dnitz, commander-in-chief of U-boats, was prosecuted at the Nuremberg Trials and found guilty of waging unrestricted submarine warfare.

This is exactly what we did

As for the argument that these people were carrying drugs (as if that matters)

Trump can just pardon whomever he throws under the bus, it's not a state crime.

#34 | Posted by Alexandrite

Seems like the system has a problem imbedded in it.

Just a reminder that President Piggy promised to pardon a major drug kingpin.

Let us be clear

Every
Single
Bomb
Dropped
or
Missile
Fired
is
ILLEGAL

Full Stop

Even by their OWN standards every attack is illegal.

They want it to be an armed conflict?

They had 60 days to get authorization

They did not

it is not even close

EVERYONE in the chain-of-command, from Hegseth to the man or woman pulling the trigger, should be prosecuted

And President Piggy should be impeached.

Immediately

" It is HIGHLY illegal"
As opposed to what, lowly illegal? Mediumly illegal?

#11 | Posted by sentinel

Point being is that it is criminal enough in wartime but this regime can't even argue that justification

I know it is pretty wild but if I remember correctly the Akagi was only hit with one bomb that exploded.
Was that when they got caught with their pants down trying to rearm planes from land to naval attack formations?

#9 | Posted by jpw

yeah, but there is debate about how actually out of timing they were. The Americans also lucked out with the --- cap being drawn low to fight torpedo bombers (which the ---anese thought was a greater threat-though American torpedo bombers decidedly were not-irony being ---anese torpedoes and torpedo bombers were far superior than Americans at this point in the war) So you had a situation where the ---anese were very sensitive to torpedoes because they were so good at them while downplaying the threat to dive bombers which they viewed as far less of a threat due to the difficulty of hitting a moving carrier. The first successful DB attacks on CVs was at Coral Sea

But yeah that was a rough 10 minutes for the ---anese.

I know it is pretty wild but if I remember correctly the Akagi was only hit with one bomb that exploded. The bomb pierced the flight deck and exploded on the hanger deck amidst scores of fueled armed torpedo bombers causing a catastrophic explosion. It is believed Richard Best was the pilot that hit her and he later that same day hit the Hiryu. A remarkable feat hitting and sinking 2 carriers in one day.

Can't speak to the attack though from what I recall the attacks on the atolls in early 42 were nothing more than pin ------.

I'm a borderline Hall of Fame troll, Alexandrite. I easily elicit multiple responses with a single post. And it doesn't take any effort.
#27 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-04-06 05:42 PM

I don't think any argument could be made that military affairs like this AREN'T part of his core functions.

President Piggy is absolutely immune from the "core functions" of his office and I don't think any argument could be made that military affairs like this are part of his core functions. Therefore, ANY crime he commits he is immune from prosecution.

That is the problem identified when the SC made their decision.

As far as international law, I don't think it in the realm of possibility that any international entity will prosecute a US president either in office or out of office.

As far as the purges go, that is just another aspect of the damage that President Piggy has enacted. We will be facing complete purges of the government every 4-8 years. that is no way to run a government.

"To be perfectly clear. President Piggy has absolute immunity from prosecution for these murders (at least under American law)."
Really?
I mean, I'm not a lawyer, but that's like saying Goering had immunity from the crimes he committed as a member of the greater German Reich.
A movie was just recently released called Nuremburg. I haven't seen it. I don't need to.

#89 | Posted by madbomber

You don't know what the SC decided, do you?

I am SOOOOO tired of debating the ignorant.

Go educate yourself and come back

"Do you believe the same vigorous reviews are happening under Trump and Hegseth?"
When I was doing this, there were expansive legal reviews at multiple levels to ensure that the target was a valid military target and any action against it complied with both the Geneva Conventions and International Humanitarian Law. That legal review would be handed off to the General Officer who would approve or disapprove the strikes. Ultimately, it was that star who would hold responsibility.
And I never was in a situation where the SECDEF personally ordered a strike. I have to make the assumption that the process has not changed all that much since I stopped doing this stuff, but prima facie it looks as if there may not be the type of vetting I did going on anymore.

#76 | Posted by madbomber

t does not appear to me that either Trump or Hegseth is aware of the scope of the trouble that may be coming their way.

#81 | Posted by madbomber

To be perfectly clear. President Piggy has absolute immunity from prosecution for these murders (at least under American law).

You beginning to understand the abomination the supreme court gave us?

How are these orders illegal?

Let us count the ways

1. War Powers Resolution
The War Powers Resolution requires the president to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days, with a further 30-day withdrawal period, without congressional authorization for use of military force (AUMF) or a declaration of war by the United States. The resolution was passed by two-thirds each of the House and Senate, overriding the veto of President Richard Nixon.

President Piggy has not received the required congressional law.

2. Drug Smuggling is NOT a capital offense.

3. There is evidence that the boats were human trafficking and not drug smuggling.

4. It is HIGHLY illegal to kill shipwrecked sailors-nazi U-boat commanders were prosecuted and put to death for this.

5. These unarmed ships posed zero threat to the US or its armed forces.

6. Venezuela is NOT a source of Fentanyl.

7. Drug smugglers are NOT terrorists.

8. The victims are civilians and, as such, are considered innocent.

9. The victims are unarmed.

10. We are not at war with Venezuela

etc.

The Trump administration, however, has argued they are lawful under a claim of "armed conflict" with drug cartels.

Let's be clear IF this was an armed conflict (which it very well ISN"T), but let's say it is an armed conflict

President Piggy needs congressional authorization for force

Full Stop

EVERY SINGLE BOMB dropped is illegal.