JFC AU, you utterly fail to comprehend that the whackadoodle evangelicals WANT to bring on the end of the world. they actively pursue it! Putting the most amoral man in the WH serves that purpose.

Once you wrap your mind around the death cult that is evangelical belief all of this makes sense.

Here's one for you

Noncombat fire on USS Gerald Ford injures two sailors
Two American sailors have been wounded in a noncombat-related fire on the USS Gerald Ford aircraft carrier, the US military says.

The blaze originated in the ship's main laundry area, CENTCOM said, adding that there was no damage to the ship's propulsion plant and the two soldiers were in stable condition.

"The aircraft carrier remains fully operational," it said.

Anyone really believe this from our government?

That during active, high volume attack on Iran that the laundry stewards dropped a cigarette into a laundry basket?

You think something like that rises to the level of a CENTCOM press release?

They had to assure us the propulsion wasn't effected?!? Like WTF!?! What does a small fire in the laundry room have to do with the engines?????????

Really?

Assume for a second that this press release is a lie?

What does that tell you?

Iran hit our carrier?

That would not be good.

I am not saying it happened or even likely, but it is a realistic possibility.

Yes, I fully admit this is conjecture, but our government is CLEARLY lying about the cost of this war.

Iraq has shut down port operations.

This is getting fucking real bad.

Dow down to 30,000? I can see it

Oil at $200/barrel? I can see it.

Let me make this perfectly clear Corky

Piggy is in no way positioned to successfully Taco.

Iran would have to buy into that Taco

They are winning

Understand that

Iran is winning.

Iran has zero incentive to stop fighting

If they stop they lose their advantage

If they stop Israel and the US will rearm and come back better prepared a year from now.

Iran understands that.

Piggy has shown himself utterly untrustworthy. He withdrew from an important agreement and attacked Iran TWICE in the midst of negotiations.

Iran has zero reason to agree to any ceasing of hostilities.

Iran's response has been devastating and a HUGE surprise to our military. Think about that, we spend a trillion dollars per year and are SURPRISED by the response from Iran?

That is Pearl Harbor levels of incompetence.

Israel is getting pounded by Iranian missiles and Iran is not even sending that many there. Israel's interceptors simply cannot either keep up with the number of incoming missiles OR cannot intercept the faster missiles.

It is decidedly in Iran's favor to extend hostilities until there is REAL pain and Piggy has to come crawling for a truce.

That is going to mean serious concessions by Piggy, like withdrawal from the middle east.

Do you think Piggy is willing to do that?

He would sooner use a couple of tactical nukes to get his way

No, Piggy will not Taco, it is too late for that

Thanks magat scum.

Trump says rising oil prices make the US money
President Donald Trump has said that when oil prices go up, the US makes money.

"The United States is the largest Oil Producer in the World, by far, so when oil prices go up, we make a lot of money", he wrote in a Truth Social post.

He added that of "greater interest and importance" is stopping Iran from having nuclear weapons and "destroying the Middle East and, indeed, the world."

Thanks magat scum

As of March 12, 2026, at least 16 to 19 commercial vessels have been attacked, damaged, or hit by Iranian forces, including drone boats and explosives, in the Persian Gulf and Strait of Hormuz since conflict began on February 28, 2026. These, according to USNI News, include tankers and cargo ships.

Key Details of the Attacks:
Total Impact: Reports indicate 16"19 ships have been hit or damaged, causing significant disruption to the Strait of Hormuz.
Recent Activity: On March 11"12, 2026, multiple vessels were targeted, including the Marshall Islands-flagged Safesea Vishnu and Zefyros, as well as the Thai-flagged Mayuree Naree.
Methods: Attacks have involved explosive-laden boats, drones, and projectiles, resulting in fires and crew injuries, with at least one crew member killed in an attack near Iraq.
Location: The majority of incidents are occurring in the Persian Gulf and near the Strait of Hormuz.

The situation is described as chaotic, with Iran targeting vessels amidst rising regional tensions.

If you think that attacking this many ships isn't huge you are simply wrong.

This could literally be the beginning of WW3

Yet another consideration

America has invested trillions in the gulf state both in military bases and in the defenses of these countries.

America is basically hanging these countries out to dry.

Our limited ability to provide interceptors is going to Israel.

Iran is targeting them, because of our presence there.

The long term impact will possibly be the Gulf States looking elsewhere for security guarantees, perhaps even reproachment with Iran.

Global markets are withdrawing investment from the gulf states and the US and is far less likely to return.

That Qatari jet did not get them much.

For those who are unaware, Iranian drone, missile and targeting ability/capacity has come to a huge shock to the US military.

And we have reports that Iran tried/is trying to hit the continental US with drones.

As a caveat, this is coming from the Trump administration so take it with a truckload of salt.

Are there Iranian cargo ships out there with drones?

Maybe that is fear mongering by the Trump administration.

Maybe not

If Iran sees the war going against them, will they launch drones at the US? It would not take much to cause a major panic

And we have reports that Iran tried/is trying to hit the continental US with drones.

As a caveat, this is coming from the Trump administration so take it with a truckload of salt.

Are there Iranian cargo ships out there with drones?

Maybe that is fear mongering by the Trump administration.

Maybe not

If you weren't aware, Iran's drone and missile and targeting ability/capacity has come as a HUGE shock to the US military.

3? More like 16 to 19 ships

Again, WE ARE LOSING

BADLY

This is an economic war

Iran holds many, many cards.

There is only the ladder of escalation.

Either you go up the ladder or you go down

Either you do more destruction or you stop

US and Israel simply cannot hit enough targets to stop the attacks on the oil "pipline"

That means escalation, moving up the ladder

Which means moving towards attacking Iranian oil and civil infrastructure

Hitting the oil will mean even HIGHER oil prices.

Hitting the civil infrastructure, means, if the escalation moves sufficiently up the ladder, to attacking the desalination plants.

Well, the gulf states and Israel ALSO have desalination plants

And Iran can and will hit them.

And if you didn't know, Israel already attacked Iran's oil and desalination plants but were apparently told to back off.

This is edge of the abyss stuff

And we reached it REAL quick

Oh and a couple more rungs up the escalation ladder are tactical nukes.

Are YOU comfortable Trump won't try one?

For those deadenders, I have a question.

Would a country getting their ass kicked issue a set of demands for the surrender of the other country? Maybe, but really??

Iran threatens retaliatory strikes? What are they going to do - drop bombs from flying carpets?

#18 | Posted by BellRinger

Hey moron, Iran is winning the actual war or what do you think will happen when oil is at $200/barrel?

The world is in the edge of an economic abyss.

If you want to gauge how the war is going follow the attacks on the oil "pipeline".

Iran is daily becoming more and more successful

Watch out for the increase in attacks on oil fields ports depots and shipping. Look for reports of mining.

America has very little capacity to counter this.

It would be stupid to escort ships through the area. That would greatly reduce destroyers freedom of movement opening them up to drone and small vessels attacks. Plus those ships are needed to protect the carriers from missile attack

It is truly amazing how quickly this war is going south.

This could be a disaster by next week

Iran escalates attacks on Gulf energy infrastructure
By Victoria Gatenby
Reporting from Doha, Qatar

Concern is growing across the Gulf as Iran escalates attacks on regional energy infrastructure.

There was an attack on fuel tanks in Bahrain in the past few hours, while on Wednesday, drone strikes targeted fuel tanks in the Omani port city of Salalah. Also on Wednesday, a cargo ship was targeted by the Iranians in the Strait of Hormuz. Three sailors remain missing, while 20 were rescued by the Omani coast guard.

Now, the timing of that incident was interesting.

It came shortly after Trump warned Iran against targeting ships in the strait or laying mines.

The Iranians said they targeted the Thai flagged vessel because it had been ignoring their orders. They said all ships have to seek their permission to transit the strait and warned that the US and their allies will not be allowed to pass through that very narrow waterway, through which 20 percent of the world's oil supplies flow.

Do not measure the success of the Iran war based on casualty count. It is not that type of war, yet. Plus the US is probably lying about casualties.

The measure is in interceptors and infrastructure (esp. oil).

Detailed article describing the success Iran has had against our defensive installations

Another consideration is that Iran is sending it's older missiles and drones to deplete the gulf state's interceptors.

Iran has hit a number of America's billion dollar radar installations.

As the war goes on Iran will be able to send more and more destructive missiles and drones with less and less defensive capabilities.

BTW a true ground invasion is probably the logical end point for Trump's "plans". But a ground invasion is well and truly a non-starter.

America simply does not have the number of troops for a true invasion. Not a special forces snatch and grab operation of the nuclear material say, but a ground invasion to truly overthrow the Iranian regime, ala Iraq.

But, you see Iran isn't Iraq.

First, Iran is HUGE and mountainous

Second, we have zero allies who will put substantial boots on the ground.

Third, access to Iran is only through hostile nations i.e. Iraq, Pakistan, Turkey, Afghanistan and we can't air lift 1,000,000 troops.

Fourth, Trump is a coward.

There are other reasons

But, my friends, this is where it gets scary

We have tactical nuclear weapons. I can envision Trump choosing that option over admitting a loss.

Not saying it is likely, but Trump wants to be a historical figure and all.

I can see Netanyahu whispering that is his ear.

Meanwhile every day brings danger of a world wide economic crash. It cannot be understated the damage that stopping that flow for a few weeks can cause. Nations entire economies rely on it. China relies on it. BTW we are pulling military assets out of S. Korea to protect the gulf. Will China see that as an opportunity? Who knows!

Oh and the Kurds have given Trump a big ---- You to being the ground meat in a land assault. So the whole concept of a civil war blooming in Iran becomes a pipe dream.

Trump seems to be relying on a sustained bombing campaign and then declaring victory. But, really, seriously a bombing campaign achieves nothing. It would take a year to turn Iran into the Gaza strip.

So, you see, there is a major flaw in that argument of Trump declaring victory and moving on. Israel and Iran have a say in the matter. Israel could PROBABLY be convinced to stop, but what will force Iran to the table? Israel wants to bring the Iranian government to collapse to turn Iran into Iraq circa 2004. THAT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN. But will a psycho like Netanyahu be convinced. Oh yeah, Trump gave Israel 20,000 1K pound bombs last week. That is enough ordnance for Israel for like 30 to 45 days of bombing. A campaign that long would destroy the oil market.

And, you might not get this, but Iran probably thinks they are winning. Of course they are taking a beating, but that is not how THEY measure victory. They define victory by the damage they are able to impact on the oil "pipeline", which is getting more severe every day. And every day the ability for the gulf states to defend against incoming missiles and drones is getting smaller and smaller.

So, yeah, I don't see any way for Trump to win this. There is a very good chance he will have to crawl to Iran to beg for them to stop.

Trump is left with very few cards to play. He can double down on blowing stuff up, but that will achieve nothing but a mounting number of civilian casualties.

There are only so many military targets to blow up. Look at this video

Truth,
"I think Bill is saying that the problem is that Iran is a Muslim lead country and that their Islamic beliefs make them unwilling to act rationally in regards to Israel?"
That's overly simplified, but pointing in the right direction.

#227 | Posted by BillJohnson

You're too stupid to understand how stupid you are.

Just a small example

52 Muslim majority nations are not nor have they ever been at war with Israel

A whole heck of a lot them actually recognize israel

Despite the ongoing genocide mind you

It's funny how quickly you rush to prove my point.

Follow this

It's an expression of the arrogance that many religionistas have, like they think they know the key to existence because they believe in a sky fairy and thus have the moral basis to dictate how others live and have a thorough understanding when their perceptions are warped by "belief"

#208 | Posted by truthhurts

"have the moral basis to dictate how others live"
I don't do that.
My attitude is "let your chips fall where they will".
I even support abortion rights. Let the woman make that choice and live with the consequences.
I share that I am a Christian and accept Christian doctrine.
I'm not going off in that direction in this thread, but I won't stand for you telling a lie about what I say here.
#213 | Posted by BillJohnson

"As long as we blow up a lot of them"
War is hell.
Living in reality is harder than living in an imagined world.

#223 | Posted by BillJohnson

Bill the Christian who accepts Christian doctrine is utterly dismissive of the suffering of hundreds of thousands to millions of people living under constant terror, displaced from their homes, having their lives blown up, their children killed

All over, what? NOTHING, LIES, EGO of rotten people

Once, again, a religionista proves how disgusting and hypocritical they are

but hey war is hell everybody

Murdering people is wrong.

But that is just my ethics and morality speaking.

You being dismissive of the suffering of others, yet claiming you are Christian is apropos, in my humble opinion.

But war is hell, amirite!

Now watch this drive!

I'm starting to feel like a whirling dervish.
I need to take a break after just repeating what I've already said.

#219 | Posted by BillJohnson

Your feeling stems from your ever changing position.

I am completely clear headed because I fully understand what you and what I am saying.

And again

This is what you are saying

I think Bill is saying that the problem is that Iran is a Muslim lead country and that their Islamic beliefs make them unwilling to act rationally in regards to Israel?

That raises all sorts of problems, but Bill won't address them