#@ - exactly.
That orange lying liar gotta lie.

But couldn't tell the gang of eight or congress? Couldn't get prior approval because it had to be super secret?
That nonsense about leaking was, as suspected, complete --------.

Trump just said that if the VP doesn't give the US what we want then she will face a far worse fate than Maduro. Yep. It was a demand to be our puppet or else. She has no crimes to be charged with. No point in pretending with her, right? Just come right out and say it.

Trump's turn into an smaller and more pathetic version of Dubya is making Dubya look almost statesmanlike. Standing in for Cheney is the Viceroy of Venezuela - Rubio. This just gets better and better. /s

But that was (D)ifferent.

But this was (R)ight.

LMAO

We did this for the oil. To make Trump's Big Oil buddies richer. To give trump more power.
That's why. There was no morality in any of this. None.

We didn't do it to capture Maduro for any drug crimes.
We know that because trump pardons strongmen that are drug traffickers. Far worse than Maduro.
We know that because fentanyl isn't mentioned now that he's captured.

We didn't do it for regime change because the same regime is in place. The VP is now the acting president. The corrupt forces that made sure Maduro had power and stayed in power remain untouched.

As Redial stated plainly, Machado's out because she "stole" trump's peace prize. Never mind that he was never going to get it.

This is 100% colonialism. That orange POS flat out stated that when he alleged this action was the Monroe Doctrine on steroids and even renamed it the "Donroe Doctrine" after himself.

All this spinning and pretending by the right wingers here is not credible at all. It's pathetic.

Green light to China and Russia.

Boaz won't dare let the truth intrude on his delusions.

I'd respect him more if he was getting paid.

Hey Visitor - see if you can out do your President Warning: this is the advanced test.
Point out the Giraffe:

Not speaking for JPW, I am speaking for myself. You folks that went over to MAGA have become fccking insane. There's no point in talking with you or discussing anything. You all have lost it - even if you can't see it. That's why I'm direct and blunt with you morons. You're as ------- crazy as your wanna be tinpot despot leader who has lost it.

What's the point in showing any of you respect? Not one of you has earned it. You've done just the opposite. You've squandered it and destroyed your credibility. You are a cancer killing us all.

At least the Turning Point convention had you eating each other. Finally.

Maybe you'll WAKE the FCCK UP?

If what was posted on this thread triggered a Pyongyang remark then you are one seriously fccked up being.

Trump is deranged, sinking, sliding into a dangerous state, and you post that?

He's an idiot. Always has been. He's never been able to respond to the actual words or point, either.

False choice logical fallacy attempt through false equivalence followed up with ad absurdum.

You treat the child but not by putting others at risk.
"Unvaccinated" is not a protected class.
Private doctors have always had the right to refuse patients and set the rules to protect their clients.

If you're going to make the choice not to have your kid vaccinated, do the due diligence and find a doctor that supports your bad choices.

Personally I think you should be fined heavily for damage to public health

Brain damaged, too.
So sad.

Jim Cornette
@TheJimCornette
I don't think Mick Foley's on Twitter or I'd tag him but I want to state publicly that while I've always liked him, he has just become my favorite person in the world. I wish all the boys had his backbone and, more importantly, his morals.
12:29 PM Dec 16, 2025

John Savage appears clueless regarding how vaccines work.

I think I am starting to figure out what you were trying to get at. If they pass such a law, then if a clinic wants it can refuse to see vaccinated patients?

If they want to make such a law it must mean there are clinics in Florida that turn away the vaccinated.

No, it does not mean that. Not sure why you'd say that. That seems like you are normalizing the irrational. I know exactly why they're doing it. It's not secret. They're open with it. They want Florida to be a "Parent's Rights" and "Freedom" state - at the expense of those that also want freedom from the idiots. That's why one person can get books banned from school iibraries - even if they don't have a kid.

No. I was referring comments like #12 and 20, not what you wrote.

In #21 you quoted #19 from me and responded directly to what I'd written. I'd said nothing in this thread before that.

Nobody's trying to force you to miss getting vaccinated. It's really not cool to gaslight people about their own lived experiences and traumas, and it certainly doesn't help to build trust.

You have no idea what gaslighting is if you think what I wrote was that. What you just did, however, was attempted gaslighting.
You shared what you said was your life experience without any qualifications.
I shared mine with explicit qualification. Just as valid as yours. I didn't discount your experience, in fact.
Then you come back with that and try and discredit my personal and qualified history, and call it 'gaslighting.'

That, Sentinel, was gaslighting on your part.

I know plenty who've had to after (the mrna version of) the Covid vaccine.

I know of no one, personally, that had that experience. No one I actually know. That's a sizeable group of people in my life.

I've never had that experience. My reaction has been about the same as when I get a flu shot. Perhaps a little higher resting heart rate for a few hours, but otherwise I haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary.

I missed the vaccine this year and was going to get it - it'd been a year - and I managed to get COVID before I was able to get the vaccine. COVID was brutal. There's no way I'm going to miss getting vaccinated.

Same with the flu. I got the flu every year for years before I finally started getting the influenza vaccine. I almost never get the flu now. I will not miss getting a flu vaccine. Being sick with either COVID or the flu is way way worse than any insignificant discomfort from the vaccine.

One local pediatric clinic will not accept patients that are not being vaccinated.

DeSantis and Ladapo in Florida want to make it illegal for pediatricians to turn away unvaccinated, calling it "wrong" and "coercive" preferring the sick kids spread of disease to other children waiting to be seen. All this while school mandates for vaccination are being rolled back.

Children aren't immediately immunized when they get their first shot for, for instance, measles. First shot is at ~1 year, second is between ages 4 and 6. That's a lengthy vulnerability period where they could be expose to a thoughtless ----- parent's sick child showing up and spreading disease.

#17 - you do realize all you're doing is showing everyone how damaged you are. It doesn't bother me that you're deeply disturbed and sick. I'll never know you (fortunately). I suppose being vile makes you feel better about yourself for some reason.

That is so sad.

Rob Reiner on Charlie Kirk's murder:

"I unfortunately saw the video of it and it's beyond belief what happened to him and that should never happen to anybody. I don't care what your political beliefs are. That's not acceptable,"

Reiner added he was touched by Erika Kirk's message of forgiveness at the Turning Point USA founder's memorial service.

"What his wife said at ... the memorial they had was exactly right. And totally I believe " you know I'm Jewish " but I believe in the teachings of Jesus and I believe ... in forgiveness," Reiner said.

(NY Post)