America? It's just a quaint old notion, to folks like Trump and Musk.

Neither one of them would care if America ceased to exist, as long as they could squeeze every bit of value from it first.

"It's auditing government, seeing where the fraud and waste is."

What flavor is that Kool-Aid?

Wanting to fire 94% of USAID workers isn't about fraud and waste; it's an attempt to cause enough chaos

" I'm hoping you are just joking."

I'm hoping people like you stop enabling him.

For example, how do you feel about loyalty questions on government job applications?

Should an applicant be asked if they believe J6 was a crime or a beautiful day? Should they be asked if the 2020 election was stolen from Donald Trump?

If you don't believe in filters like this, why aren't you jumping up and down and screaming?

Too busy enabling???

" $4 trillion in tax cuts for billionaires is coming paid for by ... "

You can stop there. "Paid for" by more borrowing.

The cuts aren't coming to balance the budget. Not at all.

They're going to cut a half trillion in spending, all which currently benefit the average taxpayer, and use that to justify 4 1/2 trillion in new tax cuts ... over $5 trillion with interest.

" considering it didn't help much."

Interesting, you consider returning billions and billions to screwed-over customers as "not helping much".

"(Trump)'s no Hitler."

Not for lack of trying.

"You have been informed and educated."

Bellringer's second and third biggest fears!

Number one? The truth getting in the way of his precious talking points.

"Where is Jeff to whine about censorship?"

He'll (R)esist condemning until the letter after the name is (D)ifferent.

"which cops were murdered on January 6th "

You're aware, legally, results follow actions, and the results aren't always on the first day, right?

At this point, you're disagreeing with the attending doctors, and pretending any death after midnight doesn't count.

"Russiagate"

Always a self-own.

Did you know the current Republican Secretary of State CONFIRMED Team Trump and the Russians had over 100 contacts during the 2016 campaign, all while lying to America and claiming ZERO contacts?

Republicans thought you weren't worthy of the truth, and that you couldn't handle it.

And here you are, agreeing.

"You're just trolling by claiming we're all arguing against each other."

Yeah, I'm confused about that as well. I don't see any daylight between our positions.

"Because you've got nothing"

Sure seems like it, doesn't it? What's it been? Two dozen posts since I asked for simple proof? How tough are two links???

"Danforth doesn't even have Zuckerberg claiming to have been pressured by the Trump team"

Huh? Zuck came out of the meeting, paid Trump a $25 million bribe, and decided to side with purposeful misinformation rather than losing mega amounts of business.

Used to be, when the letters after the name were reversed, you SCREAMED about much less than this.

But here it is, obvious, and right in front of your face. And you're silent in response.

What a partisan coward.

"When Zuckerberg went on Rogan's podcast..."

He never offered an example, did he?

From my viewpoint, "You can't post Trump is a weenie" is different than "That website advocating arsenic for curing COVID violates your own Terms of Service".

Why couldn't Zuck give an example which would make the government look ghoulish? Was he waiting for a platform?!?

"I've given you links in the past and you dismissed them. "

Not to what you're claiming. Never, Not once. You keep CLAIMING you've done it, but when challenged, you never do...then next time, you claim you did.

If these things happened, links should be easy to produce. Link away.

"Twitter Files exposed was behind closed doors "

NONE of which was government censorship. There was not ONE SINGLE INSTANCE where the editorial board was forced to act against their will. You have NEVER shown proof of CENSORSHIP by the government...unless maybe it was Trump's government.

"How do you figure?"

You're asking me a question before answering mine?!?

Go away, and don't come back without the links proving what you claimed.

"There is a reason lefties were outraged when Zuckerberg ditched the so-called 'fact-checkers'"

Yeah...he was capitulating to government censorship. Much like the "settled" bribe, er, lawsuit.

Here's another problem:

The algorithms were set to target "probationary" employees, which are usually workers there for less than 1 or 2 years. Those folks don't have the same civil service worker protections as more tenured employees, so they're much easier to fire.

The problem is, when an eight-year veteran is promoted, they're considered a "probationary" employee in their NEW position, but that means if they don't work out, they'd be demoted to their PRIOR position.

The AI can't tell the difference between new employees, and newly promoted employees...so they fired both sets.

Dumfuqs are running the country.

"Danforth and I have had this discussion on several occasions."

And on every occasion, you've failed to prove your claims when challenged.

Much like the links to the SCOTUS decision(s) and transcripts where Zuckerberg reveals exactly WHAT was censored.

Link, or run away. Your choice.

" I'm not interested in relitigating the same argument over and over again."

I'm not asking to relitigate it over and over. I am asking for the link that proves your claim, something you've never done since I started asking.

You failing to offer proof again and again and again is not the definition of the word "relitigating".

"you acknowledged what he said"

Not what he said, what he CLAIMED.

And still no example of what was "censored". Why is that? Obviously, if it was based on actual censorship, Zuck would be forthright with WHAT was being censored.

Again, it's probably the "Here's How to Eat Tide Pods" website. Or the "Here's How to Inject Bleach" guy.

#101

Where is your link to the SCOTUS cases proving your claim?

Where's your transcript of the specific threats Zuckerberg got...and again, threats based on WHAT? (And why hasn't he revealed it?)

"Nobody who posts here has anybody plonked."

Not true. I have about a half-dozen WOBs plonked. For example: has Phester ever added ANYTHING to the discussion?

"Zuckerberg gave examples"

Zuck said they screamed and cursed. What "examples" of censorship did he provide?

And transcript, please. I'm certainly not going to take "your word".

"I've cited Supreme Court rulings on this issue."

Supreme Court rulings?!?

Link to the one proving censorship.

" It exposed a lot."

It "exposed" that Twitter's editorial boards were doing their jobs, and every now and then agreed with the government certain posters were violating Twitter's own Terms of Service.

You've been asked since day one to show a concrete example of the government overriding the editorial board, and threatening them as well, and you've failed to come up with a single instance.

Of ... you know ... actual censorship.