"This is something you do on occasion. All I'm doing is mirroring what you occasionally do."'

No, I hold you on what Trump and Republicans HAVE DONE.

You have to pretend what Dems MIGHT DO, and use every piece of straw you can find.

WORLD of difference.

"THAT is what Democrats AND you support."

Let me know when you'd like to enter a serious conversation.

Until then, you're nothing but a lying SOS, relying on strawmen for every argument.

"Human, sex and drug trafficking is baked into illegal immigration."

It's also baked into immigration.

"Increasing the volume increases the amount of cruelty."

Increasing the cruelty to the smaller volume is also increasing cruelty, Einstein.

"Going after employers is only half of the battle."

You're using Republican Math.

Try this: If ZERO jobs were offered to illegals...exactly how many jobs would illegals accept?

Going after employers is ALL of the battle. You don't want to admit that because it's Republican business owners, and Republican members of the Chambers of Commerce, and Republican Sheriffs being bought off.

"Cruelty is baked into illegal entry."

Trump added more.

"His policies drastically reduced illegal immigration thus reducing cruelty."

Reducing cruelty where?

" I recognize this particular policy success."

Probably because you identify with (and endorse) the additional abject cruelty.

"I hate Trump..."

All votes to the contrary.

"... but he got this issue right."

Because he added abject cruelty???

"All I did was turn your insipid argument back at you."

So were you lying, or telling the truth?

"Danforth will vote for the enablers anyway."

I'm glad you finally admitted a vote for Trump's enablers is a vote for Trump. You'd been denying that fact since the dawn of time.

But it's good you finally admitted it. Please don't pretend otherwise going forward.

"The Biden administration is leaning on a public health law invoked by the Trump administration..."

Basically, Bellringer WOULD support the current situation, if only the Trump cruelty of purposely separating families was added....

"This is a result of policy he supports..."

Careful you don't light a match around all that straw!

"Danforth is urinating on these corpses."

Still lying about a deadly situation? Typical.

Let us know when you're ready for a serious discussion.

" This is exactly what Dems and progressives support and enable."

Not In A Serious Discussion alert!

You should post that warning every time you willingly lie, as a public service announcement.

FTW ... Bellringer has admitted he believes it's okay to lie, unless he believes he's in a "serious discussion".

" The sanctions aren't "necessary". They are a stupid ineffective means of coercion. "

All whining about facts to the contrary.

" It's not an Islam issue."

Pick your poison. You remember the flack when the Dearborn coach wanted to have midnight practices, right? Only Christians were pissed off at that.

You wouldn't want 24/7 Islam propaganda. If you don't want that, but you're OK with 24/7 Christian propaganda, you're part of the problem. And if you can't see the default is 24/7 Christian propaganda, you're not paying attention.

Same with mine;

Why are you pretending they're different?

Or mine compulsory?

Huh? How is yours not?

" Roe absolutely was legislation. "

Legislation is signed into law. Who signed Roe into law?

" I'm not religious but I never understood the problem with a coach kneeling down after a game in a silent prayer."

These are the same folks who would blow a gasket if the coach in Dearborn suggested everyone bring their prayer rugs and worship to the east once the game is over.

" people that want to oppress religion in the public square."

Would you be willing to have 24/7 propaganda from the Muslim religion in the Public Square?

If not, you just answered your own concern.

"What's Romney's labor income tax rate? To start?"

Romney's "labor" is paid as carried interest, which is treated like a LTCG. So to start...zero.

"What's a workers LTCG? To start?"

It's not apples to apples when the worker gets wages, while Romney gets LTCGs, for the same 8-hr day.

"Different people have different starting tax rates on the same types of income?"

Not same types; same amounts.

Romney went to work to earn that Bain payout...but was never charged a cent of Social Security taxes on it.

"In fact, their taxable rate starts higher than Romney's carried interest from Bain."

"Really? Different people have different starting tax rates on the same types of income?"

Yes, really. A worker's tax rate starts at 10% for income taxes, plus 15.3% for payroll taxes, totaling 25.3% to start.

Meanwhile, Romney's carried interest is treated like a LTCG, so not only does he have a lower federal tax rate, but if he has any paper losses (which Romney did in the years after the Bush Bust & Bailout), he can marry those to $20 million in paper losses, pocket the $20 mil Bain payout, and pay NO federal taxes on the gain. Then, if he wishes, Romney can re-buy his same portfolio 31 days later, and his only exposure is if the investments go up in that month. And if they drop in overall value during those 31 days, Romney gats the additional bonus of getting the same portfolio for less money.

THAT was why Romney released several years of tax returns when he was running for President...but not the year of the Bain payout.

" I remember a few years ago Target started sending ads to a teen for baby stuff, she didn't even know she was pregnant yet, but data Target had access to said she was."

Not exactly what happened.

The teen was pregnant but wasn't showing. She'd purchased vitamins specific to pregnant women, and (iirc) lotion for sore ------- during pregnancy.

Target timed it, and reasoned she'd soon need car seats and baby-proofing items, and sent "that" flyer.

Which is how her dad found out.

" Particularly if a business owner does not want to participate in a same sex wedding because of religious beliefs."

Now change that to "Jewish wedding" or "Interracial wedding" and see if you sound bigoted.