Has anyone done that welfare check for Zed that I requested? It's going to be a long four years for him.

#11 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES

Have you apologized to the thread yet for trying to spread lies and misinformation right out the gate?

It's not his fault. He got a little excited.

He thought it was ok now.

He momentarily forgot Trumpy and his administration full of Nazi wannabes are not actually in charge ... yet.

It could happen to any hateful maga maroon.

Helpful tip for other maga maroons thinking of doing the same thing ... you gotta wait for Dictator Day before you can let your xenophobic freak flags fly.

Re #5

For example Pakistan has a "President " and that does not somehow magically make them a secular state.

"I thought Iran was a Theocracy? Electing a president says otherwise."

What you are doing is NOT thinking.

Do you not even see the irony of what you're doing? You blew off the surfer's mental health study, without reading it, because it was Covid lockdown related.

I'm done, it's too retarded.

#31 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

How could I read it? You never posted a link to it.

I am glad you are done speaking half truths and lies. We will all be better off for it.

Wrapping lies in truth only proves you are good at wrapping lies in truth.

Psychologists even have a word for it now.

Paltering.

"Misleading by "telling the truth" is so pervasive in daily life that a new term has recently been employed by psychologists to describe it: paltering. That it is so widespread in society now gives us more insight into the grey area between truth and lies, and perhaps even why we lie at all."

"Here, everyone is too Busy. Doing Nothing."

Maybe YOU get to do Nothing.

Most middle class Americans have to work for living and are living for the weekend.

Most middle class Americans are more concerned with paying their bills, feeding and clothing and educating and taking care of the health of their families than fighting in the "Revolution".

Hell in the actual American Revolution only ~13% of Americans actively participated.

"surfer depression"

who gives a good god damn.

#28 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

Exactly. It does seem rather trivial in the scheme of things.

That's why I couldn't tell if he was serious or not.

"I quoted a snippet from a completely different article that provided the context that you couldn't find earlier as to what somebody was referring to. "

Too afraid to share the link you quoted from but did not read?

Anti science undertones in America are the same as it ever was. But have been recently revived and encouraged by Magatonians who proudly flaunt it like they are so proud of it.

I have plenty more where that came from but hey ... Ready to move on whenever you are.

"The RightWing SmearMachine has been tirelessly working on this for over 40yrs now."

And evangelicals are ecstatic about it.

And even before that the religulous have been busy bees trying to undermine science.

See the scopes monkey trials and their failed attempts (so far) to equate the myth of biblical creation with the science of evolution.

and then there are religion based organizations like the Discovery Institute actively spending millions annually to undermine science in our schools

... .

Discovery Institute is a nonpartisan public policy think tank that advocates for free-market policies supporting traditional Western principles. The Institute conducts research, educates, and analyzes the role of science and technology in public policy.

Website: www.discovery.org%20
Tax ID: 91-1521697
Tax-Exempt Status: 501(c)(3)
Budget (2019): Revenue: $7,637,803
Expenses: $6,865,358
Assets: $7,719,373
Location: Seattle, WA
Formation: 1996
Type: Non-Profit
President: Steven Buri
President's Salary: $184,200 1

I wonder how much "science" spends to "research educate and analyze (and influence ) the role of science and technology in public policy".

"I didn't even read this article. "

Yet you quoted a small snippet from it in support of someone who apparently thought it was important anti science evidence.

You probably should have at least read it before you quoted from it.

The fact is the public perception of science is being manipulated.

As it always is. Mostly by the religulous. And if you haven't figured it out by now propaganda works and humans are very susceptible to it the religulous are particularly good at it.

And we have seen and heard it before.

Obligatory:

I worry that, especially as the Millennium edges nearer, pseudoscience and superstition will seem year by year more tempting, the siren song of unreason more sonorous and attractive. Where have we heard it before? Whenever our ethnic or national prejudices are aroused, in times of scarcity, during challenges to national self-esteem or nerve, when we agonize about our diminished cosmic place and purpose, or when fanaticism is bubbling up around us - then, habits of thought familiar from ages past reach for the controls.

The candle flame gutters. Its little pool of light trembles. Darkness gathers. The demons begin to stir.
Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark

anything more would be freaky

#144 | POSTED BY BRERRABBIT

5 is freaky but 4 is not?

Republican morals.

"I did not say it was. This is a thread about public perception."

If you read one article and base all your beliefs and or problems on it I cannot help you and you definitely need professional help.

You came into this thread supporting the contention that science declared the oceans unsafe when it was only one scientist in expressing her concerns relative to her own area of expertise in an article in the LA Times.

In these days of Tik Tok and social media our brains have been and are being completely rewired. THAT is what needs to be studied. Along with the depression and myriad of other problems like isolation and loneliness being caused by social media. Which is apparently not so social.

The rest of the story is the CDC later determined that the going to the beach was safe as long as YOU didn't bring the virus with you and you kept your distance from others. (Human behavior)

As for studies of surfer depression. That's a great thing to study (I guess)but there is whole lot of depression going on tho and depression during a global pandemic or any disaster of global proportions when normal human behavior is disrupted seems to be a normal occurrence for any normal human (being as we are social creatures) .

And I am so sorry that surfers were so inconvenienced by a global pandemic that killed millions. I hope they are ok now that we know more and things are under "control" again.

Seems to me when there is a global pandemic raging out of control being overly cautious is a thing to be expected. As is resistance to authority.

Re 140

Republican math.

"Except Trump didn't write it?"

Ah yes. The old Mob Boss defense.

"I know nothing about Project 2025. I have no idea who is behind it."
-Trumpy

"Your organization is named the Heritage Foundation because you understand that our glorious heritage is the foundation of everything we hope to achieve...which is why we need the help of the Heritage Foundation and everyone here..

-also Trumpy.

"The past was alterable. The past never had been altered. Oceania was at war with Eastasia. Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia." George Orwell 1984

Re 2

That would depend on who writes it this time.

They're still studying the long term impact of the depression in surfers from being blocked from their lifestyle.

#11 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

You are kidding me right? Hard to tell if that was snark or serious.

"and public perception of science is low because a study will get produced, it goes viral in the news, and nobody ever bothered to peer review it.

That's not the fault of "science".

Again. Human behavior.

Also found your "viral" article without your link.

They were discussing whether the virus could be in raw sewage that sometimes gets into coastal waters. Raw sewage is already known to sometimes contain other pathogens that sickens humans when they swim in it. It was a valid discussion.

And again it was not so much the ocean but the crowds of humans that gather there in close proximity with each other.

Ritalin is not cocaine. And regardless children are not allowed free access to it 24/7 just because no one is looking. It's supposed to be given in controlled doses under the care of a doctor which should also include therapy.

I think the point is we need to slow down children's access to things they will obviously abuse. And social media being one of those things. Time to end this weird social experiment on our children. The experiment has failed.

Don't know of any children that would handle cocaine well.

They are bad enough when we feed them sugar. Can you imagine giving them cocaine? Should you even? That's only something someone's has evil as Trumpy would love to imagine. And imagine and imagine ...

"When politics including DEI and pedophilia and perverted sex ... "

But enough about convicted felon Trumpy and his maga maroons.

"Like the time the "environmental scientist" said you could get covid from swimming in, or even standing near the ocean."

Without a link your out of context statement means nothing.

And.. Oh noes! Someone said something incorrect while trying to figure out how a novel virus was being spread in the throes of a global pandemic.

It wasn't the ocean that was the problem. It's human behavior that was the problem in a global pandemic that killed millions and humans like you were obviously part of the problem. Not the solution.

"This is pretty standard."

Pretty standard now.

Did he take the diamonds before or after the quid pro quo?

Because in America if he takes the bribe after then it's just a tip. Or "gratuity". According to our Supremes.