IT CREATES LAW.

The president DOES NOT CREATE LAWS.

Congress is the legislative branch. They legislate. And pass laws.

The President is the Executive Branch. They Execute the laws that Congress passes.

Welcome to America Comrade.

Because he is the head of the executive branch.

So. It does not say "complete control ".

You just pulled that crap outa Trumpy's nasty arse didn't ya?

Each agency is a law passed by Congress. They are appropriated monies to complete those duties as assigned BY CONGRESS.

Being vested with Executive Power does not give him complete hiring and firing authority of individual civil servants. Nor does it allow him to change the laws passed by Congress.

He only has complete control and supervisory authority over the executive officers he hired. Who then have to staff their agencies according to the laws and appropriations passed by Congress to do the duties as assigned by Congress.

Glad I am Asian.

#4 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Then. You are not white. So you are not far down the list and could be detained at any moment for questioning. And if the white guy in the mask does not like your attitude you can be disappeared to a gulag in some foreign land you have never been to.

And that's what you voted for. Apparently.

Now you rest easy ya hear?

Aww ain't they so nice to us cattle?

And the lady's can leave their hats on!

Baby, take off your coat, real slow
Baby, take off your shoes, yeah, I'll take your shoes
Baby, take off your dress
Yes, yes, yes
You can leave your hat on
You can leave your hat on
You can leave your hat on
Go on over there and turn on the light
No, all the lights
Come back here and stand on this chat, that's right
Raise your arms up in to the air, and shake 'em
You give me a reason to live
You give me a reason to live
You give me a reason to live
You give me a reason to live

You Can Leave Your Hat On
Song by Randy Newman 1972

Re 3

A curfew will do that.

I bet you just can't wait for one in your town.

Eliminating jobs WITHOUT replacement is not the same thing.

POSTED BY BELLRINGER

That is partly true like most if your BS.

But the president does not have the power to eliminate civil service jobs.

But only to hire or fire Executive Officers. Who then can be directed to reduce staff. But they can NOT reduce staff to the point where the agency cannot do the job that was assigned to it by Congress.

The NWS is a Law passed by Congress and only Congress can change that law.

Still waiting for you to produce the paragraph Article II in the U.S. constitution that grants the president "complete control" of the executive branch.

You can do this too, just sign up on the their website.

#14 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Sure go ahead and "sign up".

But if there is no money or staffing available for the program what do you think you will get?

The same thing about 11 million Americans will get when they sign up for Medicare.

Nothing.

Its so easy to receive txt msg for any sort of weather phenom from the NWS, even an Asian can do it.

#15 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Pull your pants up bro ... your ignorance is showing.

Texting is only one way to receive a warning.

And in this case texting would have done no good as the campers apparently had their phones taken and they had no internet access by camp policy.

The weather service has to accommodate all whether they use a cell phone and the Internet or not.

Its not a position, its an automated service.

#13 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

It's a program. Run by the Warning Coordination Meteorologist. Which may or may not include an automated message.

This thread isn't getting much traction because it doesn't point the finger at Trump.

It got you and OneNut to come out swinging your purses did it not?

Oh please its SOP to increase staff during these events, thats what they did, the warnings and alerts are backed up on their server with public access.

Messages made to the press have to be approved by management.

Especially in this highly charged political situation with the mad king currently breathing down their necks.

Donner is ready for the Supreme Court .

#40 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

Not possible.

I could never kiss and lick Trumpy's nasty arse like you and they do.

Therefore POTUS has near complete control over it.

No he does not. Saying it does not make it so.

Show me the paragraph in the constitution.

He gets to hire and fire executive level officers ONLY.

They in turn make the hiring and firing decisions at the civil servant level. Based on the legal requirements and funding from Congress.

The "spoils system" in the U.S. federal government was largely eliminated by the Pendleton Civil Service Reform Act of 1883. This act created a merit-based system for hiring government employees, replacing the previous practice of awarding jobs based on political patronage.

Read Article II

#38 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Ok. Article II. We are getting somewhere!

Now.

Which paragraph specifically?

Somewhat surprising they seem to be getting more flak from the right than from the left on this.

POSTED BY BELLRINGE

Not really. The whole " Epstein was murdered and show us the list" fever swamp frenzy was whipped up by Trumpy acolytes. They were hoping to snag some high ranking Dems but they accidentally snagged the orange whale they worship as Dear Leader instead.

Still waiting on that article and paragraph from DingDong.

You made the assert

You called others morons for not knowing the constitution.

You said pick up a copy of the constitution.

I have one right here.

Which article and which paragraph gives the POTUS "complete control" of the Executive Branch?

Personally I am going with the Schrodingers box theory.

It exists and does not exist all at the same time.

She blinded me with Science!

Fahy told The New York Times that the San Antonio office's vacancies included a warning coordination meteorologist, the employee charged with coordinating with local emergency services ahead of floods.

Well, there you have it.

If there was no WCM on staff then I guarantee none of the outreach duties were being done because there was no one to coordinate them.

"We had adequate staffing. We had adequate technology," Greg Waller, service coordination hydrologist with the weather service's West Gulf River Forecast Center in Fort Worth, told the Texas Tribune. "This was us doing our job to the best of our abilities."

You do realize of course that was a prepared statement approved by NWS legal counsel or PR department or even at the OPM level.

He HAD to say that it he would have been fired the next day.

Correction to #6

Not sure if there was a position specifically for outreach but
THERE IS an outreach program.. if there is enough staff for the required duties.

The National Weather Service literally had a position that would call the local government, law enforcement and other key organizations like the camps when a flood was imminent.

This is basically true. Whether there is a link or not.

Not sure if there was a position specifically for outreach but if
there is outreach program.. if there is enough staff for the required duties. I do know of one position that is directly involved in those kinds of activities and that is Warning Coordination Meteorologist.

In addition if staffing permits NWS offices often conduct severe weather preparedness drills, where schools and local organizations can participate and receive test warnings via NOAA Weather Radio ( that was provided AND installed free of charge) helping them get familiar with the system.

If there is not enough staff the outreach programs are one of the first to be cut.

Pick up a copy of the Constitution, moron.

#31 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Got one right here.

Which article and paragraph gives the President "complete control" over the executive branch.

Pick up a copy of the Constitution, moron.

#31 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Still waiting for you to show us where the constitution gives the presidency "complete control" of the executive branch.

So the Supremes have officially endorsed the Purge?

Good to know.

At least we know where they stand.

This helps with my upcoming purchasing decisions.

Like whether to buy the new Toyota hybrid or the Barret sniper rifle and a new shotgun.

"We vote for POTUS and POTUS should have complete control of the Executive branch"

We vote for POTUS expecting that POTUS to faithfully execute the law.

As in

he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,

Where does it say he gets complete control of the Executive branch Branch? I think I missed that part.

He does have "ministerial duties" and gets to hire and fire and supervise executive officials.

And all of them need to follow the laws and policies currently in place. Or have Congress change them.