And you think there was no evidence whatsoever?

Prove it. In a court of law. The civilized way.

You trust a recently convicted felon's word.

I do not.

Now did you know that after all these excuses and evasions they have rescued two of these "narco terrorists" in a similar episode and return the TERRORISTS to their home country.

Can't wait to hear you maga maroons Trumpsplain this one:

The U.S. military rescued two survivors from one of the strikes on a suspected drug-smuggling vessel in the Caribbean in October 2025 and subsequently returned them to their home countries of Ecuador and Colombia for detention and prosecution.

They returned the terrorist to their home countries for "detention and prosecution". For crimes they committed against America.

Awww.

Lil Whiskey Pete is so cute!

Re 83

Exactly correct. Gave that one a NW!

Our issues with drugs (you are correct it's not war) is not going to be solved by illegally bombing some boats.

All it is doing is creating more problems.

Just another SNAFU from the FAFO.

Would you have fixed aircraft that, during WWII, were conducting daily raids on cities in Germany and Japan? Raids that killed hundreds of thousands of people?

Brother. I was a young Marine. If ordered to in a Time of War I'd have done what I was told to do. And how on Earth would I know what the aircraft was going to be used for?

But I did not join the SS. I joined the Marines. They are professional warriors under the UCMJ. I would never have been told to kill a helpless enemy sailor floating in the water except maybe as a test. And if I was ordered to then yes I would have refused that order. Because I could pass that test. Could you?

Each situation is judged in its own merits.

What you are describing has nothing to do with the current situation.

You're the one saying these are innocent fisherman who got blown up for no reason.

No I am not. Trumpy obviously has his reasons. Just not legal ones.

I'll trust US intelligence over you .

lol. You trust this administration but not the previous one. Because you obviously don't have good sense. Who cares who YOU trust.

Also. Don't trust me. Trust the Law.

For decades we had the coast guard try and do the job and it didn't work.

Define "work".

Fiscal Year 2025 (FY25): The Coast Guard seized a historic record of nearly 510,000 pounds of cocaine in the Eastern Pacific Ocean and Caribbean.

Fiscal Years 2021-2023: The Coast Guard interdicted an estimated 421.9 metric tons of cocaine.

Maybe it's not "working" because the War on Drugs will never work if Americans keep demanding it and buying it.

This deters the smugglers.

lol

And if Trumpy was really interested in stopping drug trafficking he would not have just pardoned the guy who smuggled 400 tons of it into America. What kind of message does that send to drug smugglers?

You really are a stupid person aren't you?

Fortunately there are educational opportunities available Fishpud.

"People Sleep Peacefully in Their Beds at Night Only Because Rough Men Stand Ready to Do Violence on Their Behalf."

Been there done that. But while I was standing Watch on the Wall I never felt the need to commit violence for violence sake. And I wasn't interested in doing evil on anyone's behalf.

And no I don't sleep peacefully knowing my country is executing Venezuelans in my name and without evidence of a crime or any due process whatsoever.

It was a civilian ship ...

And they are required by maritime law to aid distressed shipwrecked sailors. Regardless of nationality.

Especially if they did the ship wrecking.

SO, I guess technically, had there been a civilian US ship in the region, they would have been obligated.

It was a civilian ship

Although they could probably use the argument that picking up survivors from a valid military target may put their own crew in jeopardy.

#55 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

Sure they could "argue" that but they'd be lying. Obviously.

The U.S. Navy was in no danger from the shipwrecked sailors. Other than the fact that they could testify against the Navy later in a war crime tribunal.

The United States killed millions of innocents in their bombing campaigns against Germany and Japan.

Were they floating helplessly at sea on debris from a ship that was just wrecked by the U.S. Navy?

They could have, but they are under no legal obligation to do so.

#28 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

Actually they are.

There is a strong legal and international obligation for vessels to assist shipwrecked sailors and anyone in distress at sea, codified in laws like 46 U.S.C. 2304 and international treaties, requiring masters to render aid as long as it doesn't place their own ship, crew, or passengers in "serious danger," with penalties for failure.

This duty, rooted in customary maritime law, mandates rendering aid to people, not just property, and applies even during armed conflict under specific conditions.

its wild how upset you get over a gun death, but could careless about 100,000 narco deaths.

#23 | Posted by oneironaut

It's wild how ignorant and stupid Commie Spyboy is.

Trumpy just pardoned Juan Orlando Hernndez, a convicted drug smuggler who was convicted of smuggling 400 tons of cocaine into America.

GFY with your hateful Commie Spyboy nonsense.

Only because they are within the 12miles of the US Coast, you do understand what the 12 miles means right?

The Coast Guard's patrol distance varies from nearshore to international waters, depending on the mission and operational needs. It has law enforcement authority within U.S. territorial waters, which extend 12 nautical miles offshore, and enforces U.S. interests within its Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ), which reaches 200 miles offshore. On a global scale, the Coast Guard operates on all seven continents and across the world's oceans to address transnational threats.

You do know what 200 miles means right?

The U.S. Coast Guard conducts anti-smuggling operations and makes arrests hundreds, even thousands of miles from the U.S. coastline, including deep within international waters.

Yes, a JAG officer determined they were still "combatants".

POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

You mean a JAGOFF officer don't you?

That's what Whiskey Pete calls them.

The JAG officers were fired and replaced with Trumpy loyalists.

Once again. Nothing that comes from this administration can be trusted or believed unless or until verified by at least 2 RELIABLE sources.

They were obviously not "combants" while floating helplessly in the ocean.

I don't care what Whiskey Pete's JAGOFF says.

Since when do facts matter to the morons?

#16 | POSTED BY NIXON

They don't. Unless or until they are hauled into a court of law. Even then getting to the Truth is like pulling teeth.

If we did not stand up to them and resist their nonsense
we would have our own "Magisterium" by now and our "scientists" would only be allowed to use a Bible to do their research with.

Yes, innocent "shipwrecked" sailors. Clinging to a bucket of cocaine.

Show me the cocaine. The evidence has been destroyed. Another crime.

No one said they were innocent. They were helpless. Big difference.

What's the issue Donner? You afraid your crack shipment will be delayed?

I don't like war crimes. Do you?

The "issue" is war crime or murder?

And how does the left know that they didn't have communication devices? Because they didn't get the call?

#15 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

What a stupid question. "Are you a stupid person?" "You're just asking questions because you're a stupid person."

It would it have much been easier to pull them from the sea than to try and Trumpsplain this for the next couple years.

We don't know anything. Neither do you. Because the evidence has been conveniently destroyed. (Another crime) But we do know a crime was committed because we have the video. Also in case you are not woke to it the Navy also has signals intelligence capabilities. Calling for help make with the U.S. Navy right there?

And to back up just a bit the US Navy should not even been involved in chasing criminals on the high seas. I believe that's the Coast Guards job. They generally do not blow up their suspects.

The Coast Guard normally treats maritime drug smuggling as a law enforcement issue, focusing on interdiction, arrest, and prosecution.

Again. Are you a stupid person?

Immigration is a key factor in continued growth, particularly as native birth rates decline.

Sorry, we are full. You are going to have to make your own country great.

Full of IT maybe.

We are not "full" by any means.

immigration puts more people in the country buying houses.

The liberal stupidity is circular and dumb.

#10 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Get off my Lawn!

So we employ those immigrants in construction jobs. I hear Trumpy needs construction workers.

America was built by immigrants.

Maga maroons are so incredibly stupid and short sighted. I bet you are one mean hateful drunk also.

True because Pelosi would hire a Republican.

#31 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Weak sauce Commie.

The conspiracy that it was the capitol police because the "gait" proves it was way better.

You should have just doubled down on that one instead of changing your tune.

You are slipping Commie Spyboy.

I'm a traitor for creating a thread about Biden?

Mostly just an idiot.

Sleep with dogs, wake up with fleas.

It's sad that some people can't comprehend that not everything is about oil. It's an oversimplification, at best.

#12 | POSTED BY SENTINEL

If it's not about oil and it's not about "drug terrorists" (because that's obviously a lie) then what is it really about?

Please enlighten us with your unique SSentinel perspective.

"I think he should testify under oath about the orders that were given, and I think that the video of the distressed, shipwrecked or incapacitated people on those boats being bombed, that video should be shown to every American."

Actually everyone in the chain of command needs to testify under oath as to what their orders were and why they followed them.

Only cowards kill survivors when the enemy is defeated.

Especially shipwrecked sailors. Killing shipwrecked sailors is such a Nazis thing to do.

In World War II a Nazi U-boat commander ordered the killing of shipwrecked sailors.

After German submarine U-852 sank the Greek steamship SS Peleus in the Atlantic Ocean, the U-boat's commander, Heinz-Wilhelm Eck, ordered his crew to shoot at the survivors in the water and throw hand grenades at the wreckage and life rafts to eliminate all traces of the sinking.

After the war, Eck and two other crew members were tried by a British military tribunal for war crimes. They were convicted and subsequently executed in November 1945, the only German submariners executed for war crimes committed during World War II.

If they don't do it now then after Trumpy loses power everyone will be tried by a military "tribunal" force at crimes. Best save all emails documents and orders and digital data related to these incidents so you can save your "assets" from jail or execution.

Oh this is big one.

Wonder who gets the tip/donation/$500,000 vacation to Indonesia/Mercedes/college tuition/rent free home for this one?

Because it upsets your preferred narrative?

#47 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Oh?

Do tell!

You just posted a hateful hack job promoting another maga conspiracy.

What's our "preferred narrative" regarding that again?

What orders? Link to those documents.

It's your absurd maga accusation.

Not mine. I don't need to prove anything.

...

but you know you can't prove a negative.

#43 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

It's a shameful maga conspiracy theory. Not mine.

You can't even prove a positive Commie Spyboy.

Has Fuxed Spews apologized for promoting one of their hateful maga conspiracies against a member of the Capitol Police?

Fox News personalities have repeatedly promoted conspiracy theories about the January 6 (J6) pipe bomb incident, suggesting it was a "false flag" or an "inside job" orchestrated by federal agencies like the FBI or CIA, or that the bombs were not real threats.

The FBI on Thursday threw cold water on a story on a right-wing website that named a former Capitol Police officer as a potential match for the individual who planted pipe bombs at the Republican National Committee and the Democratic National Committee before the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol.

...

The owner of the home happened to be a neighbor of a former Capitol Police officer named in a story as a potential suspect in the pipe bomb incident on the conservative news site, The Blaze. The Blaze cited a "gait analysis" " a study of how a person walks " saying that it found a 94% match between the officer and the suspect. The former officer now works in campus security for the CIA, a source with knowledge of the person's employment told NBC News.

...

The Blaze story was promoted by Rep. Thomas Massie, R-Ky., and Loudermilk, who heads a new select subcommittee that aims to counter the findings of the now-defunct Jan. 6 committee that operated during the Biden administration.

I would expect a large defamation settle is already being discussed.