" Donald Trump is a great president and a great man.
#13 | POSTED BY ZETALEPH AT 2020-08-07 10:54 PM | REPLY | FLAG"

Oh dear - you know you said that out loud, yeah?

#19 - my last comment on this since it's not worth any more effort.

You are referring to the potential pool of voters that exists now and how their vote could be affected by a VP selection. This is a fair point and I have no argument with it, but it is not my point.

I am referring ( in a somewhat tongue in cheek manner in my original comment ) to those who actually vote for Biden on voting day as a protest against Trump. This group, by registering an anti-Trump vote, clearly was not adversely affected by the VP selection. That is about all I have been seeking to communicate - not effectively apparently!

#17 - I understand your point but with respect, I don't think you are understanding mine.

I am interpreting #10 to be an assertion that most of the votes Biden will get will be anti-Trump votes ( a view I don't agree with but that's another discussion ) and my original point was that I would be fine with that. By definition, a stay at home voter, or one who votes for someone other than Biden, is not covered by my interpretation, because they literally have not voted for Biden. Under these circumstances, the identity of the VP is moot.

You seem to be focused on the potential pool of voters existing now, which is fair enough but is not addressed in my comments.

#14 - then they will not be votes against Trump, as contemplated in post #10.

#12 - Given that your original point is that the majority of votes Biden will get are likely to be votes against Trump, what difference does it make who Biden selects as a running mate?

"Very few people are voting for dementia Joe, they're voting against Trump.

#10 | POSTED BY WILLOWBY AT 2020-08-01 06:01 PM | REPLY | FLAG:"

And that will do nicely.

Trump floated this action a while ago, but it still seems oddly coincidental that this announcement comes shortly after Germany vetoed Trump's proposal that Russia be re-admitted to the G7. Putin was not happy.

For the righties on here lauding this move, I wouldn't necessarily disagree. But it does seem to me that US foreign policy should be based on something more thought out than the childish tit-for-tat delivered by Trump.

I thought the DR righties would be all over this thread professing how much they admire, respect and like Trump.

Maybe they are self-isolating on the Nooner. Or perhaps they want plausible deniability should King Donald have a big fall.

"Joe likely showing up to the debate incoherent will do it.

#9 | POSTED BY WILLOWBY AT 2020-07-28 06:11 PM | REPLY | FLAG:"

Because your guy is so much more coherent?

Good luck with that, unless you think promoting the views of a woman who believes that medical research uses alien DNA and that someone is trying to create a vaccine to create immunity to becoming religious, is coherent.

ZETALEPH

Dr. Feelgood

Seniority: 384

Party: Democrat

Ideology: Liberal

Am I the only one having trouble putting this poster in the "Democrat/Liberal" camp?

I guess Trump missed Reagan's warning - "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Trump has faced 2 major challenges during his Presidency that were not of his own creation - BLM and Covid-19.

He has seriously and publicly failed in addressing either of these, so while his base maintain their " nothing to see here" attitude and will vote for him en-masse, those who are not part for the Trump cult have 3+ months to completely forget his ineptness if they are to vote for him again. I don't see these issues going away in that timeframe, so good luck Sen. Tillis.

"I mean, every smart person knows the Dems take credit for anything good but when things are bad, they point fingers at everyone else.
#12 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE AT 2020-07-14 11:35 AM | FLAG: "

So writes the supporter of President " I don't take responsibility at all" Trump. Priceless!

" Doctors surprised he could pass cognitive test."

Yeah - me too.

"33% are okay with 60000+ new infections per day and 135000 deaths?

What is wrong with these people?

#1 | POSTED BY NIXON AT 2020-07-10 07:29 AM | FLAG: "

My suspicion is that the 33% do not deny the existence of covid; their position, if they have a reasoned position at all, is that covid exists regardless of who is president and they believe Trump has performed at least as well as any other president would have. On this basis 60,000 new cases a day and 135,000 deaths would have happened on any president's watch.

The fact is that Trump is not responsible for covid's existence. He is responsible for the chaotic response to covid and for putting his re-election ahead of a co-ordinated effective response from day 1. While I doubt anything can make an impact on the opinion of his followers, perhaps the best chance of denting their blinkered belief is by quantifying how his failures have exacerbated an already dangerous pandemic.

A while back when JeffJ and RoC were posting, they liked to quote a research study which found that if China had acted 3 weeks earlier than it did, 95% of infections could have been avoided. With this as a starting point and an effective response from Trump which mirrored China's, deaths could be as low as 6,750. Realistic? I don't know but the era of Trump, is realism a thing?

"There's no end to the exaggeration and fear mongering of the Left in regards to covid, just so they can get more votes. Neither party has yet to realize that getting votes based on fear only spreads fear and hate.

#8 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE AT 2020-06-30 02:09 PM | FLAG: "

The article is authored by David Frum. Since when has he been " of the left"? His wiki entry records in his own words his political beliefs:

""I'm a conservative Republican, have been all my adult life. I volunteered for the Reagan campaign in 1980. I've attended every Republican convention since 1988. I was president of the Federalist Society chapter at my law school, worked on the editorial page of The Wall Street Journal and wrote speeches for President Bush"not the 'Read My Lips' Bush, the 'Axis of Evil' Bush. I served on the Giuliani campaign in 2008 and voted for John McCain in November. I supported the Iraq War and (although I feel kind of silly about it in retrospect) the impeachment of Bill Clinton. I could go on, but you get the idea."

Frum opposes Trump but you seem incapable of understanding that there are many anti-Trump individuals who are not left wing or democrats. Failing to grasp a simple fact and then generating an attack based on your failure to understand has developed into your distinguishing feature here on DR and it takes you very close to moronic on occasion.

From the Guardian:

"In the words of Steve Vladeck, a widely read commentator and professor of law at the University of Texas: "It's worth not losing sight of the fact that the Attorney General of the United States out-and-out lied in a written statement and in a context in which there could have been little question to him that Berman would publicly call him out for doing so. And he did it anyway.""

"Nobody is rooting for deaths."

That includes the United States President. Anyone that thinks elsewise is wharf rat bastard.

#11 | POSTED BY PHESTEROBOYLE AT 2020-06-16 01:25 PM | FLAG:

Trump may not be rooting for death, but the really contentious issue is why he is rooting for life.

An American president should be concerned with the life and well-being of all US citizens, regardless of their political affiliation, because he genuinely cares for them and their well-being. I can't imagine anyone, even right-wingers, would expect anything less.

But Trump does not care for them. He cares only for his re-election chances and so he roots for life because death is bad at the polls. This distinction makes a difference to most people.

I invite all DR's right wingers to view the FB Live feed in the headline article and tell me if this makes you proud of your country under Trump.

Decent, ordinary, small town Americans exercising their first amendment right in their own town and they are intimidated, assaulted and insulted by a bunch of bullies, many armed with the obligatory semi-automatic rifle ( my guess since I know nothing about guns ).

If your peace-keeping force includes 200 bikers, you may just be on the wrong side of history.

#1 - Haggis and Bagpipes are more instruments of torture than weapons of oppression. I've been tortured by both and have never quite recovered.

"As usual, angry Danni is wrong. Hillary's deplorable was a major gaffe because it was seen a generalization of Republican voters. It may have cost her the election. I agree this idiot is in fact a deplorable, and quite a dumb one at that.

#40 | POSTED BY CRISISSTILLS AT 2020-06-12 08:47 AM | REPLY | FLAG:"

This link gives her actual words:

Murdoch is married to Jerry Hall.

They say you can't judge a book by its cover and as anonymous posters on DR, the cover is pretty much all anyone can see.

Clearly in the 4 years I've popped in and out of the DR, the contents of the book that was Nulli have eluded me. The descriptions of his politics that I read on this thread from those who knew him longer and better than I, do not match the view I developed from reading his posts. As a self-identified moderate liberal, I rarely agreed with his position on anything yet it seems we should have had more overlap.

To his family if you should read these comments, you have my condolences. Whether or not we agreed on anything is irrelevant at this time - you have lost a complex and interesting human being and I wish you well moving forward in life.

"They should have been moving back on their own. It looks like they were looking to confront the police line and they got what they were looking for.

#12 | POSTED BY BOAZ AT 2020-05-29 11:42 AM | REPLY | FLAG:"

Did you listen to the exchange? The anchor tells the police that they are happy to move and asks where the police would like them to go. Had they moved " on their own" then I'm sure you'd now be arguing that they moved to the "wrong" place and that's why they got arrested.

Seeing confronation in the camera crew and blaming them for their arrest makes no sense to reasonable people. They have now been released:

"Awesome, now every rioter in the US can just tell a cop they are a journalist and the cop will have to let them go. People just can't get through their selfishness when it comes to the greater good these days.

#6 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE AT 2020-05-29 09:01 AM | REPLY | FLAG:"

So you condone the actions of the police and feel that the "greater good" for a free American society was best served by arresting the CNN crew?