"Even worse, they view it as weakness in other people."

Ben Shapiro did a whole show on how it was a weakness. Probably has 5M views by now.

"And here because people couldn't be bothered to stay home or wear masks in the name of Freedumb, we are crushing new case records and deaths."

This weekend was rough in my neighborhood. 12:30 am Saturday I went to my fourth floor window to scowl at the group of bros, 12 or 13 20 somethings, screaming the lyrics to piano man at full volume, then watch them enter my building's courtyard where they went to an apartment across from me that was having a party. There had to be thirty people in that apartment, singing, dancing, drinking, standing close to one another. Sidewalk restaurants have been crowded and ignoring social distancing for over a month now, but this was the first time I saw somebody throw a party like that in my building. This time last year that was a weekly thing, apart from the Billy Joel which is unacceptable no matter what. Chelsea has really jumped the shark.

"The enemies of my enemy are my friends."

Just so long as you admit to yourself that this friendship has a shelf life that expires in seven days.
Meanwhile they insert themselves into a Biden administration, influencing his agenda, and undermining efforts to achieve everything Democrats argue we need.

"Specifically referring to congress, in most cases I think they are just spineless."

You won't get an argument from me that most politicians are ideologically and morally blank slates that adopt the thinking of the people they need to elect them. Followers, not leaders.

"And damn you to hell all you spineless Republicans who've allowed him to degrade this nation as far as he has."

You have to stop pretending like they did this inadvertently. This is what they've always wanted. Being spineless has nothing to do with it.

Republicans suing Republicans? Talk about a victimless crime.

The Lincoln Project is nothing more than a bunch of Bush era grifters fleecing Democrats. Their biggest issue with Trump isn't his policies it's that he's changed who are the favored pundits and lobbyists.

It's not even like their efforts are seriously focused on shifting voters away from Trump. They spend money on LA and DC commercials and Manhattan billboards, in the bluest of blue areas, not to convince anybody that Trump should go but to antagonize Trump and provide entertainment for their donor base.

They are not your friends.

Forgoing killfiles is a trait of masculinity and heterosexuality apparently. Got it.

"OK so goatshart is back as MoonUnit."

Definitely plausible. The MO is similar but not identical, plus Goatma(m) one of those who have gone on the record as a Zappa fan here.

"I missed out on the big ban that happened end of April when Jeff, Mustang, LftHndThreads, and a few others were banned/demanded to be banned in solidarity."

You know they're still lurking. Where do you think they get their material for their discord server?

"From whom would a 19-year-old get that kind of cash?"

From his superiors. This isn't a lone wolf event.

"Many"?????

Most.

"This appears to be the FBI saying that Vlad isn't ONLY helping Trump, to which they've already admitted."

The most useful thing about Trump to Putin is not x policy or y policy, it's his ineptitude, his inability to maintain relationships, and the discord he creates in the American people. Devoting a portion of those efforts toward helping him and a portion towards making his job more difficult only furthers those aforementioned goals.

"That's a violation of the Geneva Convention, Boaz. Do you understand that?"

"Those that can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."

- Voltaire

"I hope President Biden will insist on prosecution and incarceration."

This is one of those posts where my first reaction is to think "hell yes, Danni" until I remember that it fits a pattern.

Can we just skip ahead to the time when you're agreeing with Democrats' justifications for him not doing so? Because we both know it will never happen.

It will sound something like "it sets a bad precedent that Republicans will use against Democrats when they have the chance" or "we have to protect purple state Democrats" or "the people just want to move on and forget the Trump presidency ever happened" or "we don't have the time to waste with a lengthy investigation and prosecution when we have to undo so much damage he caused."

Probably better for everyone involved that you start practicing now.

Crack heads do a lot of things that don't otherwise make sense. It's the nature of the beast.

"Biden needs to do more than that. He needs to find all the crimes they committed and prosecute them. Ignore all the screaming and whining this will cause. It has to be done to restore law and order."

Yeah, but that will jeopardize Democrats chances in the mid terms. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that if I were you.

Think about it this way, people persuadable by logical arguments in Biden's defense are already on your side and probably have been on your side for a couple years now minimum. In these last remaining days before the election the fight is to win people over for whom logical arguments are not effective.

I'm telling you guys... centrist undecideds are not going to be persuaded by your arguments. It doesn't matter if those arguments are logical. They sound like typical political defensive tactics to them. Absent an unequivocal blanket denial that the laptop is his comes out the contents of that laptop are news, even if it later turns out after an complete investigation that everything you say about it is true. Telling people they shouldn't care about the story is not a winning strategy.

I'm just the messenger.

"As for the rest of it, I think the reason why no blanket denials have been issued is quite logical - if the Biden's had no idea of these 3 laptops, no comment at all serves their immediate interests the best until they themselves can investigate the evidence and circumstances allegedly being connected to the campaign by the single thread that they've already credibly cut by disclosing Joe's calendar that contains no such meeting and those then in charge of his schedule who'd never heard of the Ukraine man supposedly involved."

That's way too nuanced to be persuasive to the centrist undecided voters that Biden hopes to win over. These are people who don't pay attention to politics until the weeks before an election and you want them to think that through? I think it's a mistake. It's easier to absorb an unfounded accusation than it is to process a response like that even if it's rational. To these people it just sounds like obfuscation and an attempt to cover something up.

"And that's why a chump like Scotty-A is in the room"

One of my close friends went to med school with Dr. Gottleib. He's been complaining about his lack of ethics since Gottleib first came on the national scene.

"It's not his laptop. It never was his laptop."

Then why wouldn't the Bidens say so immediately? At that point you can easily convince people to look at anything that comes off that laptop skeptically.

So you're acknowledging that the laptop is his then. At least that's moving in the right direction.

That said, I doubt the FBI is looking to pull a Comey twice in two consecutive elections. Biden can probably get away with burying his head in the sand until after the report is released. But doing that does not ingratiate him to centrist undecideds around whom the Biden campaign has been focused.

"I'm Andrew Cuomo and I approve this message."

So what you're saying is that Kansas is incapable of learning from others' mistakes made seven months ago? Okay, I have to admit I do find that persuasive.

"Team Dotard Can't Find Parents Of 545 Children they Abducted"

His Nazi forebears at least would have kept accurate records.