"You seem completely ignorant of America's role in creating Israel and helping motive Jewish people in Northern Africa and Western Asia to move to there."

The US had a role in creating Israel???

Do share the story with us. And I'm not sure what you mean by helping "motive" Jewish people to move. Thier home countries were providing more than enough motivation.

"But the Americans didn't want European Jews coming to America."

Then they failed.

There are nearly as many Jews living in the US as there are in Israel.

"The Christians got the hell out of there and the European Jews who were relocated to Israel wanted to come to America."

The Christians were conquered by the Muslims. Around 30% of Israelis have any meaningful European ancestry.

The Arab world has extirpated their Jewish populations. Those who were able to do so moved to Israel.

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Have you ever been to Qatar? It's Tiny. It also has more modern fighters than Norway does.

Like I said, they have walkin' around money.

I also spent a year at the CAOC in Al Udeid. I had a blast. I was running targeting for OIR and OFS...while spending ample time at the Marriott Marquis and the Intercontinental.

"That's it. The ONLY justification for Israel to Exist. Like the Crusades a millennium ago the West wants the "Holy Land".

You do know that the region was Jewish and Christian for centuries before the Muslims arrived, no?

The Muslims were simply the last group of invaders.

They can shine flashlights at helicopters all day long and no one is going to care.

"Seriously? For one thing, "pointing" the lasers is a more accurate term than "shooting". And the same thing as a Stinger missile? Really?"

Why do you think they are using lasers, and not flashlights?

Or shoot a pellet gun at the helicopter. That would get you in less trouble.

And flyers like this are EXTERMELY dangerous. Portland has always been full of idiots. I know because I grew up there. They don't seem to have gotten any smarter. And there are probably a lot of impressionable idiots wanting to display their protest street cred by lasing aircraft, not knowing how dangerous it can be, or how much trouble they could get into. I hope it has been reported to the police.

"It seemed to me you wanted those people killed."

The people shooting the lasers? That's no different than shooting a gun or MANPAD. The intent is the use of violence to inflict loss of vision. I can't imagine why you would defend this. Which is why I asked whether you would have issues with someone lasing the cockpits of civilian airliners. The only think I can think of is that you don't think lasers are dangerous, so who cares what type of aircraft is lased?

"2) Given they can't do these things, what motive does Trump have in having them there?"

No clue. Maybe it's to reassure residents, like after 9/11. Maybe some criminals are dumb enough to think that the military could arrest them, and troops serve as a deterrent.

Property Crime in Washington DC did decrease, but not significantly. Violent Crime remained unchanged.

"Protecting pedophile president is more important than paying our soldiers to the GOP."

The Dems could end this thing right now. The soldiers will be paid. I care about that. I care less about healthcare handouts, especially handouts meant to provide assistance during COVID.

"Since I've been arguing for peace all this time, what do you think?"

I don't know what you think.

It seemed to me you were justifying people using lasers against Law Enforcement helicopters.

"You people are completely skipping over the police and civilian law to deal with your hypothetical plane crashes."

Which cities did he invade again?

Maybe you didn't realize it, but after 9/11 there were National Guard troops everywhere. I took a cruise in December of 2001, and the Miami port was guarded by troops. Rather than being afraid, most people seemed to be glad and appreciative.

I'm not a fan of the troop deployments thing, because troops are not Law Enforcement Officers. They can't arrest anyone. I don't think they can even legally detain people. Even Military Police cannot do that. It would be better to mobilize units that do have the authority to make arrests. DHS, FBI, even the Forest Service has officers empowered to make arrests.

"You people are completely skipping over the police and civilian law to deal with your hypothetical plane crashes."

I'm not sure what you're getting at, but it would be civil authorities who would investigate the crash.

The helicopters being used are from DHS. Additionally, Portland police have mobilized aircraft to monitor potential threats to Portland's ICE facility.

"You're the idiot who wants door gunners to kill those people."

There is a reason they want to use lasers. Lasers can burn out your retinas. Sometimes temporarily, sometimes permanently. They can shine flashlights at helicopters all day long.

Would you have an issue with someone standing at the end of a runway and lasing the cockpits of commercial airlines? If not, why?

"You people are fools."

I'm not the idiot shooting lasers at police helicopters. Or any aircraft for that matter.

But, domestic terrorists?"

Terrorism is defined as the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve a political or ideological gain.

Is that not what this is to you?

"U.S. federal agents have used Black Hawk helicopters and other military-style tactics during immigration enforcement operations in civilian areas, leading to accusations of treating cities like "war zones". "

And?

Game and Fish have used Blackhawks and Drones for years to monitor poaching. And they will swoop in and arrest you.

Do you take issue with that?

"To use against Americans? Are you itching to come out of retirement?"

Yes.

When USans start targeting US government personnel, those personnel have the legal right to respond.

"Maybe stop using these aircraft as weapons against civilians?"

US Law Enforcement Helicopters are unarmed.

Let me ask you this, if Russia were to lase a US helicopter, would that be OK? How about ISIS? Just write it off as a function of provocation?

Think about it.

"That is a rational post. I hope it's the start of a trend and not an anomaly."

Enlighten me as how people are being provoked to lase helicopters. Are those helicopters a threat to life, limb, or eyesight? Those are the traditional threats that permit lethal defense.

I can promise you that a laser is a threat to eyesight. Maybe these helicopters need to start carrying gunners.

"F*+^ off you stupid piece of fake s^%#."

I'm in violent agreement.

You don't ------- lase aircraft. Ever.

You idiots probably don't understand it, but that's an anti-aircraft weapon.

When domestic terrorists are using anti-aircraft weapons against US personnel, is that not possibly grounds for a military response?

"QATAR went from "terrorist supporter" to they get an air facility and US training just months after gifting Trump a jet."

I'm not sure you know this, but Al Udeid Air Base might have largest US presence of any Air Base outside of the US? And it's in Qatar. Ramstein Air Base in Germany might have a bigger presence...IDK.

Qatar has always played all sides. During the US change of command in 2018, I was told that Tamim the Glorious spent a million dollars on the party. The average monthly income for a Qatari citizen is $20k. They have money to throw around.

"We do not have ANY actual leftist mainstream media in this country."

How could there be? The left isn't mainstream.

Highly illegal.