Those death rates are about the lowest I've seen. What we are seeing out of S Korea is a death rate of about 1% but out of Italy the death rate is about 5%. And our response so far has been worse than Italy.

So if we figures even a conservative percentage like 2% death rate, and 30 million infected, that comes out to about 600,000 dead.

And, again, based upon our so far horrible national response, and the likely infected being much much higher that 30 million, I think he numbers are almost Trumpian.

"....Italy has the second oldest population on Earth, second only to Japan. Average age of the dead, 80....."

Interesting that you cite Japan, which is spite of is elderly population also has the virus but has one of the lowest rates of contagion and death on the planet.

Considering Trump and McConnell, its quite possible this sinking will qualify for funds from the Corona virus stimulus package.

Of course Trump can BS his way out of this. Millions of people don't think the Holocaust ever happened. Probably some people in this thread even don't believe the Holocaust ever happened, or that it really wasn't all that bad.

People who have fallen for a con job are notoriously reluctant to admit that they ever were. The more evidence you give them, the more fervent their denial.

"At least some good news is that due to the oil glut we will have lower fuel prices for awhile."

What this means is the tar sands oil fields will now go bankrupt. That means big bankers will see financial ruin and potentially go bankrupt as well.

Oh wait, the bankers are the 1%. Trump will certainly bail them out.

Why cancel Trump comedy shows? He said the virus was a hoax.

Cholesterol meds are sold for the rest of your life and most candidates tend to not miss doses. Same is true for hypertensive drugs. That makes them perfect for profits.

Antibiotics are taken for a few weeks and thats it.

Thus the profits are in hypertension meds and cholesterol meds. The profits are not in antibiotics. Thus, antibiotics will never be a priority until the next bacterial pandemic occurs and people will be expected to pay $5000 per pill.

But that would only be in a purely capitalist system.

There are a lot of people in this thread who continue to insist that solar and wind energy can't work. That they cannot meet the need.

What I say to them is fine, believe what you want but if you insist that it can't be done, please at least stay out of the way of the people who are doing it.

Can you make a solar cell without oil?

#36 | POSTED BY BOGEY1355 AT 2020-02-19 08:22 PM

This is probably one of the best reasons why we need to stop burning oil and gas for transportation and heating. We need oil and other fossil fuels for so many other needs that simply burning them is just stupid.

China is doing way more than the USA on climate change. When you add it all up, China does pollute more than the US but that's because they have so many people. On a per capita basis, we pollute way more than they do.

And they are moving much faster towards a non fossil fuel future, again, on a pre capita basis.

"What exactly makes him a douche? He wrote some catchy memorable songs, cut him some slack."

Meatloaf is a singer. He is not a songwriter.

I'm for Warren or Bernie and there's a good case that he's correct. And we all know that for a Democrat to win they have to win big or it can be stolen.

But my question is, can an atheist win? Sanders has identified himself as a secular Jew in the past which is a euphemism for atheist or agnostic. In the last election he was asked about this and deferred the answer. I suspect Democrats don't push the issue for fear of backlash, and Republicans won't push the issue unless and until he wins the nomination. Then Faux will cover it 24/7.