"Trump governing like a Clinton supporting Manhattan limousine liberal circa 1991.
#11 | Posted by lee_the_agent"

And this would be a bad thing why exactly? Because it shines a light how insane the Democrat party has become since 1991?

"Is that "listening behavior" reflective of those who listened to the entire podcast, or just started to listen and punted?"

I assume they do it similar to Neilson. In that case, people wear listening devices which 'listened' on a set schedule and it would pick up embedded tones in all media that allowed the device to know what you were listening to.

"I ask because youtube shows me how long folk have stayed to listen to each individual video that I post on youtube."

Yes, that is called engagement duration - the longer, the more desirable for advertisers.

"So, your current alias actually admits it is out of touch with the podcast environment?
#31 | Posted by LampLighter"

If you are defining 'out of touch' as not knowing of podcasts outside the top 15 or so, then yes. I would consider myself as more informed than the average American on the topic though - and the fact I have never heard of meidastouch podcast as well as having never seen it mentioned here on a space dedicated to political discussion and 90% liberal - tells me that it is not very relevant in the world. Meanwhile, Rogan is mentioned constantly.

Just searching online for top podcasts, I found this:

"And I did not buy it, I even countered it."

No, you did not counter it. I have not seen anything from you stating why download numbers alone would be meaningful.

"As Mr Rogan tries to sell his show to advertisers, will he point to the comments of your current alias that it posts here?"

I run a large retail company and we do advertising online and offline. For online, the number of downloads is meaningless. In the context of things like Instagram, views are meaningless. What matters is 3 things:

1.) Audience size
2.) Engagement rate and duration of engagement
3.) Key demo numbers for the above

In the case for people on Instagram with 5M 'views' and zero engagement (zero likes or comments), there is no market for that influencer.

In the case of Youtube, which speaks on behalf of the advertisers when it sets your payment per 1000 views, they care about the above exclusively. That is why short form content - like YouTube shorts don't make any more for the creator while long-form content does. Joe Rogan defined the long-form content format. Meidastouch floods the platforms with low quality, short form content.

I don't have the numbers because I assume Meidastouch would be embarrassed to release them, but I suspect Rogan makes 10x more on his Spotify deal alone than the entire revenue by Meidastouch.

"Or might he (and, more importantly, his advertisers) be more concerned about the numbers in, say, my #26 comment?
#28 | Posted by LampLighter"

No, they would not care about this in the same way they don't care if MSNBC attracts 1M viewers but only 66K in the key demo. Their ad rates will be based on the 66K, not the 1M. If you ever worked in this industry as a buyer or seller in advertising, you would know this.

"But more to the point that your current alias seems to be out of touch with the current podcasts and their relative popularity."

Rogan has 4x the Youtube subscribers and had both presidential candidates begging to go on his show before the election. No, I think I understand their relative popularity quite well.

"The Joe Rogan Experience slipped to second place, with 48.6 million downloads and plays -- a 32 percent drop from the previous month...blah blah blah..., marking a 101 percent increase in reach.
#25 | Posted by LampLighter "

Again, I already informed you of why using downloads is useless metric and a poor measure of popularity and influence.

But beyond this point and to the point I made earlier - conservatives have already transitioned to the non-TV broadcast format with Rogan, Tucker, Meghan Kelly, Crowder, Tim Pool, etc all generating millions of views in the key demo each week. The Democrats don't have that. The have failing MSNBC and your new clickbait MeidasTouch podcast which even Biden and Kamala ran away from during the election.

"So, your current alias admits it is clueless about the podcast arena it seems to tout?
#23 | Posted by LampLighter"

About this podcast? - YES. But, it seems like I am not alone and many are questioning how they can have such little public name recognition despite the high download counts.

As I looked into the download counts, it becomes apparent. It appears that they do 5+ clips per DAY with each being 10-20 minutes. This is compared to 3-5 per WEEK with a length of 2-3 hours each for Rogan's. Given there is no evidence that the downloads are actually listened to, it explains how their frequent posting of low quality content games the numbers for people that are so dumb that they only focus on the download numbers as opposed to viewership minutes, views per episode, and engagement metrics.

Hell, on Apple, they rank behind the Jen Psaki podcast which does even worse numbers in podcast format than it does on cable TV which was the purpose for this entire article.

"#15 | Posted by Robson"

You are correct on the modern liberal party desires. What I see if the liberal elite basically trying to become a new priest class - as they have abandoned traditional deities, they invented new ones like Global Warming and Wokeness. Like most religions, they force them to chant some nonsense - in the case of wokeness cult is that "some women have penises" and "men can get pregnant" - but the goal is the same. They brainwash their members into repeating ridiculous things and then try to get them to isolate themselves from family and opposing views - complete cult programming 101. This new priest class then rules over the dirty unwashed masses. And like all priest classes in the past - they add ZERO productive value to the economy while sucking off vast sums for themselves.

If you want a great example of this - look no further than Bernie Sanders' latest interview in which he scoffs at the idea that he would ever have to fly commercial and wait in lines. That is for the commoners only!

Further on the Meidastouch as this is truly the first time I ever heard of them - did Kamala do an interview there before the election? Did Biden? It would seem to be the biggest liberal platform so it would be odd if they didn't. Kamala was literally begging to go on Rogan and Trump actually did - seems to point to much higher cultural relevance. Hell, even Twitter - where did Biden choose to announce that he was dropping out? Wasn't MSNBC.

As I said, liberal news has lost all relevance and it will only get worse with USAID defunded and drug companies from being banned.

"Fox News has been "abandoned"?
#14 | Posted by ClownShack"

Yes - basically people turned off in droves after they fired Tucker. I don't know any people that are MAGA and actually watch it. I don't watch it live and I don't watch reposted clips on YouTube. I have always thought Hannity was a clown and the rest of the personalities were left leaning or just repeated the Romney, pro-war / corporate republican, talking points. That is not what MAGA wants.

"Joe Rogan loses top podcast spot to anti-Trump MeidasTouch Podcast (February 2025)
tribune.com.pk
#13 | Posted by LampLighter"

Is this meant to be a joke? The podcast download numbers are meaningless as most of the shows and highlights are posted to YouTube and Rumble where they get the most views on YouTube, JRE has over 6B views - and this does not even account for all the people reposting the clips. Further, download metrics ARE NOT a consumption metric - most of the downloads are done automatically and we have no clue if it was actually listened to. YouTube represents actual views of the content. In the case of JRE, it has 4x the viewership per video as MeidasTouch.

To be completely honest - this is the first time I have even heard of the MeidasTouch Podcast as I have never seen it referenced on this site before.

"#10 | Posted by ClownShack"

Conservative news programs have already abandoned TV broadcast as the means to reaching an audience. Conservatives are about long form content like podcasts. That doesn't work for liberals because they are uninformed and have short attention spans - same reason why AirAmerica was a total failure. Liberals need constant sound bites pumped into them - but their traditional broadcasts like MSNBC, CNN, and the Daily Show have collapsing viewership. The few advertisers they still get are mainly prescription drug companies selling erectile dysfunction and obesity pills - something most liberals suffer from.

As an example - Tim Pool, Joe Rogan, Steven Crowder, or Tucker Carlson simply destroy any liberal broadcast in key demo viewership. Do you honestly think Rachel Maddow could get another media company to match her MSNBC deal? Of course not - because the market for liberal propaganda is too small and shrinking. With USAID money already gone, the next shoe is about to drop.

"Going from 1.2 million viewers to just over one million viewers is not a 53% decrease.
#6 | Posted by LampLighter"

The drop refers to the key demo of adults 25-54. No one cares about the numbers from the TV being left on at the nursing home.

As I said before, once RFK bans drug companies from advertising prescription drugs on TV, the total collapse of the liberal news programs will be complete. They will either need huge Democrat donor subsidies to stay on air or be forced to make their broadcasts unbiased to attract a larger audience.

Not a negative word will be said by the liberals about the racist South African government promoting the stripping of white farm land, the huge number of racist farm killings, the stealing of companies through requiring black ownership be given, or the total DEI programs used to exclude whites from business and government in the country because South Africa is the vision that liberals have for America. It has nothing to do with diversity and everything to do with hating white people based solely on their skin color.

South Africa has had black rule for the past 30 years and every year has a been a further spiral into poverty for the once rich country. Farm production has plummeted, violence soars, electricity no longer is constant, and the people that made the country prosperous are fleeing. Liberals already knew how this would play out as we have seen Zimbabwe descend into desperate poverty under the same policies.

Why the liberals in the US want to same to happen here is the big question - why do they hate America so much?

If it happens - and I believe that it will, it will be like spiking the football on the Democrat party. All the talking points will be officially over.

"So then why are the Blue States so much nicer and wealthier?
Must be all those Big Red Republican cities, lifting up the ------ blue countryside.
#33 | Posted by snoofy"

The blue states that are successful are so today mainly due to the investments made by GOP leadership in the past. The Dems just take control of these once great cities and drive them into the ground - doesn't matter if are talking St. Louis, Detroit, Chicago, Milwaukee, etc. It is the same pattern. For California, it comes down to the governor - and the state is squandering it vast resources under the Democrats.

"This year, Brookings calculations suggest that President-elect Donald Trump's winning base in 2,633 counties represents 86% of the nation's total counties but just 38% of the nation's GDP. Conversely, Vice President Kamala Harris' losing base of 427 much higher-output counties represents 62% of the GDP.
#25 | Posted by reinheitsgebot"

Adjusted for cost of living (like localized GDP PPP), the split is roughly 50/50. But, more important, it ignores the causes for why a lot of deep blue -------- cities have high relative GDP. The factories tended to be built in urban areas back when the cities were actually productive. For instance for St. Louis, up until 1943, it tended to have GOP mayors - since this time, it has been 100% Democrat controlled. Coincidentally, the city's population collapse directly goes with the time the Democrats took control of the city. This takes us to GDP - the GDP for St. Louis is remnant of the investments made in infrastructure and in businesses predating the Democrat control of the city - basically, YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT - you are just the ones running it into the ground now. You can apply the same thing to Detroit and even the state of CA - under the GOP, California K-12 education was the envy of the world - now, it is a running joke.

In the case of St. Louis, the largest employers are: BJC HealthCare (the companies that merged to form this date from the early 1900's), Walmart (low wages and came during the city's decline), Washington University (founded 1853), SSM Health (founded 1877), and Mercy (founded 1871). Other major employers in the region include Boeing (not real as they move the HQ to chase tax incentives from Seattle to Chicago), Scott Air Force Base (established 1917), Schnucks (1939), and Anheuser-Busch (established 1852).

You can literally go to any deep blue -------- city and you will see the same pattern - a time when the city was thriving during GOP or split-rule and then a deep decent into poverty under 100% Dem control - this happens until all the companies are finally forced to leave.

"#9 | Posted by LegallyYourDead"

You invented your fake lawyer persona after watching LegallyBlonde - so it seems you draw inspiration from the same sources as Trump.

"-The problem isn't Missouri, exactly. It's Saint Louis (and to a lesser extent KCMO)
St Louis makes the whole state look bad.
#13 | Posted by chiligordo"

St. Louis - 61% Kamala, 37% Trump - and this includes the whole county where most of the murders are in the part of the city that likely voted Kamala 90%.

KC - 59% Kamala, 39% Trump - same comment above on the distribution.

As I have said before, we don't have a red state/blue state divide. We have deep blue -------- cities in red states - this includes CA and NY as well as Missouri.

I 100% support people paying cash or with gold/silver etc. What I do not support is people buying their $12 Chipotle using buy now/pay later with 4 installment payments. If you don't have cash, you probably don't really need it. Save your money.

"#20 | Posted by REDIAL"

People don't need to be fluent speakers of a language to know the curse words or other derogatory language. I would ask if all Snow Mexicans lack basic common sense - but, then I saw your last election results so I already know the answer.

Maybe the delivery driver called him a cracker - in the reverse situation, liberals would be cheering the outcome.

What I still can't quite understand is that the delivery driver is from West Africa and doesn't speak English - how are these people in our country working? Doesn't justify him getting shot if the whole story is being presented (which it probably isn't) but it is strange.

I am sending the White House a copy of Judge Dredd via express mail as we speak for immediate implementation in deep blue -------- cities. If that doesn't work, he is getting Robocop.

"Depends. Am I holding their stock?
#12 | Posted by snoofy"

You specifically? We all know that you don't have 2 nickels to rub together so no, you don't hold their stock. Who does own their stock? Well, the US .1% probably hold 20% and foreign .1% probably another 10% or so - so, you are again cheering on and enriching the billionaire class that you claim to hate.

"#48 | Posted by Danforth"

I will ask it that right after you admit that you lied. I know you did. Grok knows you did. Even Snoofy knows you did. Hell, YOU know you did. So, just admit it already.

"Do you NOT understand the equation, or did you purposely leave out the interest on the new borrowing?
Ignorance, or Intellectual Dishonesty? Those are the only two choices.
#47 | Posted by Danforth"

How would ask Grok this question? I guess the wording would go - if the top .1% receive 15% of the tax cuts and own 25% of all the US government debt, if I include interest on the debt will it make their .1% share over 50% in total?

It is just mathematically STUPID and obvious for anyone with common sense.