'Go away and think. Then, when you can come back and tell me that you do see the use of it, I may allow you to destroy it.' - G.K. Chesterton

" Until the next president cancels that nonsense."

The next president might just nationalize and seize all the assets of anyone associated with the previous admin. It wouldn't surprise me, since that looks like where the state of politics is right now.

As many as you can fit.

Now do Buddhists.

#12 is both antisemitic and Hinduphobic. WTG.

"---- OFF WITH THAT ANTISEMITISM BS."

Looks like we struck a nerve here. You, #2 and #7 are clearly antisemitic. Because this story has zero relation to Israel or "the Jews"... unless you're a bigot who wants to make that connection solely because Weiss happens to be Jewish.

As an antisemite, the alias who posted #7 was elated when it saw #2 in this thread.

... Bari Weiss Murdered 60 Minutes ...

I know some people here celebrated after only reading the first three words of that.

" See you, BillJ."

Sorry to hear things aren't going well between you and BillJ. Hope you two can get back together. I can tell you miss him a lot.

This type of erosion is more about building and developing along waterfront areas, which degrades natural barriers which previously absorbed the energy from the sea tides.

" Of course, I look at my Dad who was a NYC Fireman. There were a couple nights per week, every week, when he was at work, and not at home."

Hmm. . . that could have been due to work, or something else. . . :-)

O-kay. . . whatever. I'm not gonna argue with you anymore.

"They still sell tobacco...and it is a poison that kills many millions of Americans, and all those young people will quite possibly be addicted to nicotine and die ten years early from tobacco related deaths, as did my father and both grandmothers. Start 'em on sugar and then caffeine and then tobacco and then expensive drugs from their physician."

Yup. It's a systemic cycle. If it's not one thing, it will be another human addiction that's being exploited while the limited attention span of society is focused more on previous ones in their collective memory.

#13- the article (and the summary of it at the top of this thread) specifically mentions the parallel of nicotine, so it's not solely about "pouches" or "caffeine" as you were implying. I get your point about how threads are often derailed by topic drift, but you were being hyper-anal in this case.

#11- you're just being pedantic and not arguing in good faith, IMO.

Is the topic of this thread specifically and solely about caffeine pouches, or kids being marketed to with unhealthy products in general? Don't be obtuse.

Big League Chew was in pouch form, though. And you could get both candy cigarettes and real cigarettes from vending machines.

" going to give them hundreds of billions of dollars and free trade in exchange for...literally the status quo before the war!"

And pathetic apologists will predictably say "Only Nixon could go to Chai-nah!"

The Snoofy alias still can't pass the Turing Test.

'What did "nature" do to cause this'

Nature has larger climate cycles as well as other weather and geographical patterns. The way some environmentalists talk, it's all man made, or it's always humans' fault whenever there's a natural disaster or outlying event. This makes it easier for those who want dismiss concerns to latch onto and paint all environmentalists that way.

This is nothing new. Does anyone remember Surge and Jolt Cola? One of their slogans 'Twice the sugar, three times the caffeine!'

"Quick! More surveillance centers!"

Honestly, *part* of the increase in the number "record breaking" measurements is due to a new maximum or minimum being measured for a specific new weather station since it was installed, and new weather stations being placed in new locations where most humans didn't or don't usually live. I've seen a number of weather web sites reporting weather this way. Maybe it's to drive clicks, or maybe whoever programmed it that way thought it was a legitimate way to "raise awareness" and didn't think about how it could backfire.

Massive data centers are definitely putting a strain on the environment, along with other energy extraction and transfer conduits. There's no question about that.

"Somebody's got to be wrong."

There are many situations where both have legitimate grievances and both can be wrong in the way they react to them.

#3 - We get it... anyone who doesn't always hate Israel supports genocide. Just like anyone who doesn't always support Israel supports terrorism. Yawn.

"In the next five years, the Earth is overwhelmingly likely to surge again and again past the international climate threshold set as safe and shatter its hottest-year record along the way, according to new United Nations climate projections."

Maybe the heat from it will burn all of the straw men on both sides of the argument.

Anti-Environmentalist Straw Men (Attacking Green Policies)

"They want to ban all cars, meat, and modern technology."
"They care more about bugs and plants than human lives and jobs."
"They want to collapse the economy and return to the Stone Age."

Pro-Environmentalist Straw Men (Attacking Skeptics or Opponents)

"Anyone who questions a green policy is a climate change denier."
"Opponents are just greedy and corporate-funded."
"They just want to pollute the earth for profit."

The reality is that it's a very complex problem involving both natural and human made conditions. There are things that humans can and should collectively do to try to mitigate the problem; automatically jumping to political "tribes" is not going to help the problem.