The bullet/fragment/debris didn't leave a mark?

#28 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-07-29 03:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

Not if it's in the mm range. You bleed a little bit. Enough for a good photo op. By next week you're healed up, like wrasslers blading.

It got Biden to step down, so we've got that going for us.

Oh yeah, the idea his ear is supposed to be ripped off. More conspiracy nonsense. He took something with a max 5.5mm hole. If it's a fragment, which is likely, that's nothing, my children have bigger piercings.

The footage where there wasn't any broken glass? That was one of many failed conspiracy theories, like multiple shooters, blading on the ground with crisis actors, etc.

"Questions about whether Trump actually had been struck by a bullet were fueled by anonymously sourced reports that the GOP nominee was hit by glass fragments from a teleprompter that had been struck by a bullet."

Russian agitprop. Highly effective.

hahah, yeah, me, FBI, wikipedia, Snopes, we're all in on it together, because we love The Don.

Bullet or bullet fragments is a big difference.

#5 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-07-29 01:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

Not really. Go measure out 5.5mm, that's the max hole size. As far as gunshot wounds go, it's a nothingburger.

Cue the conspiracy theorists lol.

Also with joining NATO they're doing better on % of GDP military spending than existing NATO members, especially Canada.

"The United States provides various forms of aid to Norway, primarily focusing on collaborative efforts in international development and humanitarian initiatives. One significant area of cooperation involves unexploded ordnance (UXO) clearance in Laos, where the U.S. and Norway have committed over $20.8 million to support Norwegian People's Aid (NPA) in survey and clearance operations in several provinces of Laos. This demonstrates a long-term commitment to addressing UXO issues in conflict-affected regions.

In terms of direct aid to Norway itself, there isn't a large volume of financial aid as Norway is a high-income country. However, both countries engage in numerous partnerships and shared initiatives on global issues, including climate change, peacekeeping, and humanitarian assistance, which can be seen as indirect benefits of U.S. support.

For more detailed information on U.S. foreign assistance and collaborative programs, you can explore the data on ForeignAssistance.gov and the USAID FY 2024 Budget Justification."

Where's this $1.65 billion at? What bill?

"But who wrote that "there should be a significant hole in Trump's ear?"

#39 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2024-07-28 11:35 AM | REPLY

It would be at most a 5.5mm hole. People get bigger piercings in the same place.

You're a great example of why your alleged profession is getting replaced with LLMs.

I was going to do Hydraulic Injectors. Even using the most advanced hunting bullets, better than military grade, with a polymer tipped hydraulic injector to trigger cavity expansion, you still need something denser than upper ear cartilege to get it to expand.

Anyone ever faked a dramatic event for personal advantage?

#88 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2024-07-26 04:29 PM | FLAG:

Yeah Russian disinfo bots started immediately with Crisis Actor conspiracy theories too.

It was like watching the internet reaction to a mass shooting but inverted for the political spectrum.

Speaking of fake news... Bullet deformation begins on impact - that's physics.

#86 | POSTED BY GALAXIEPETE AT 2024-07-26 04:24 PM | REPLY

It's been tested, extensively. You need 4" for deformation on the .223 on a human form or to hit something much more dense like bone.

Things do not simply explode from the touch of a .223. The ear would not be ripped off. Go to any range, shoot up cardboard, gelatin, whatever you please, and you'll get a tiny hole in & out. That's physics.

I was trying to point out that there were other objects near Trump besides the teleprompter that could have been hit by a bullet and caused flying debris.

#67 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY AT 2024-07-26 03:15 PM | FLAG:

There were 8 shots in 6 seconds.

Definitely not in the right ear from where he's standing and the bullet travelled from.

You're grasping for anything to hit trump besides a bullet or bullet fragments. There's no evidence of it.

If a 5.56 round made contact with his ear at that range, he wouldn't have an ear ...

#68 | POSTED BY CHUFFY AT 2024-07-26 03:34 PM | REPLY

Also fake news. Body parts don't just explode with nicked. You have to have 4" of body mass to penetrate before the .223 will begin expansion.

Realistic is that an intact or fragments of a bullet aimed at Trump, hit Trump.

It's more than 80 feet from the bleachers along the angle where the shooter attacked from.

That's not realistic in any way.

Obviously it can. That's not what people are saying. For it to be metal, non-bullet fragments, it has to hit that bleacher and creating spalling sufficient to cause injury to somebody 40+ feet away. That's not happening.

#53 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY AT 2024-07-26 09:29 AM | FLAG:

The flying metal debris would be bullet shrapnel. A metal bleacher isn't going to have any significant spalling from .223 impact.

The capsule concept was never broken, didn't need a winged orbiter to begin with, it was political.

You're also seeing in this thread the wave of Russian disinfo pouring into Democrats. Trump's first public appearance after the attack was the RNC, but there's stills going around of him golfing unbandaged claiming it's from an interview a day or two after the attack. It's an old photo presented as new. Disinfo specialists are having to work overtime between this and Ukraine.

It's just semantic pedantry. Shrapnel comes from a bomb or exploding shell. That obviously did not happen.

#22 | POSTED BY REDIAL AT 2024-07-26 12:51 AM | FLAG:

Semantic pedantry time? Shrapnel is a specific type of artillery shell, invented by Major General Henry Shrapnel (cue up Gilbert & Sullivan's Modern Major General). What shrapnel expels on explosion are called bullets or shot.

Because it's so effective at killing, over time the word evolved to mean fragments scattered by an exploding shell, bomb, or mine, and then continued to evolve colloquially to describe any type of high speed debris in a violent incident.