Kamala Harris told the crowd that they'd "better thank a union member" for the worker protections won for the American labor force since 1926 - the five-day work week, sick leave, paid leave and vacation time, she said.

"The way we celebrate Labor Day is we know that hard work is good work. We know that when we organize, when we bring everyone together, it's a joyful moment where we are committed to doing the hard work of lifting up America's families," she said.

Harris later added that "on Labor Day, and every day, we celebrate the dignity of work ... We celebrate unions because unions helped build America and unions help build America's middle class."

Harris campaign spokesperson Joseph Costello said in a statement that Trump "is ditching workers on Labor Day because he is an anti-worker, anti-union extremist who will sell out working families for his billionaire donors if he takes power."

#79

And how that photo came to be used was 100% legal and drew no comment from the military and violated no federal laws. It was taken by the federal government itself, totally unrelated to any politics or political campaign.

Trump's photos and video DID violate federal law and was condemned by the US Army along with the fact his goons assaulted a federal employee in the course of simply doing the job she was hired to do.

But go ahead Strawlighter, keep digging your hole deeper and deeper. Pretty soon Trump will be in there with you and don't come crying when you're forced to smell his nasty Depends. They smell worse than your reputation does here on the Retort.

Suggestion: Change your moniker to Strawlighter. It's a far more honest description of the vast majority of your posts and your favored style. And throw in the Trumpian "I know what I am but what are you" retorts and that exhausts the breadth of your extremely limited abilities of self expression.

Your posts are either strawmen that immediately go up in flames or gaslighting, which you fail to comprehend, confirming your innate inability to express yourself outside of Tourette's-like repetition of already discredited or out of context factoids which you cling to like Linus does his safety blanket.

#75

Read this as many times as it takes to penetrate your pointed concrete head:

Oh...you're so insightful.

Did I couch my questions as though I claimed to think of something no one else ever has? Of course not. Since you agree with the premise, why criticise me for mentioning it? Have you ever seen this question asked in a presidential debate? I can't say yes or no but I can say that I don't remember something so possibly illuminating of a person's analytical processes when another parent's child's life is put at risk.

The question is currently relevant because the issue of presidential military orders and command are front page. It's easier to criticize when things go wrong than it is to take credit for all the decisions that went right because that's what our fickle, uninformed public demands.

At any rate, thanks for the drive-by sniping attempt. It's been one of your most impressive contributions in months, considering the veritable shallowness of your intellect and factual knowledge.

#45

Mad? Naw, I'm too busy laughing with those offline who think you're an idiot.

IOW, I'm having the time of my life watching you make a fool of yourself.

How about you?

In other words, "Woman Who Got Soldiers Killed Condemns Man Who Comforted Their Families."

Just like Mike Pence was personally responsible with the 65 military fatalities during his 4 year error with Trump - who refused to even go to Dover in honor of those killed under his watch after a father confronted him over the death of his Navy Seal son. Trump made the call 5 days into his presidency because Obama wouldn't. The plan was reckless and the father let Trump have it.

Of course, Trump blamed the military and refused to take any responsibility himself. Go ahead and support this coward and traitor. A person is known by the company they keep.

uninformed voters....

Visitor lying for Trump is about all that campaign has these days.

What V, OneNut, and Strawbringer are doing is far worse than simply lying. They are purposely spreading lies and disinformation to uniformed voters who don't know the details and see this squabbling as nothing more than another 'he said - she said' bothsiderisms issue.

The propaganda works and they know it works. Not only will some voters now try to blame Harris for what Trump did, they'll ignore that the Army itself was the first one to call the campaign out for lying about the events at ANC and the campaign's role in purposefully violating federal laws and the written protocols they agreed to follow before they got there. And then they're using the families to cover for their complete disrespect of the decorum and solemnity Section 60 demands.

This is exactly how they con Americans into voting against their own expressed interests. No one should ignore how corrosive their lies continue to be as the resonate with the unwitting.

#33

This is simply Liar's Sunday. No, no one has done what Trump did, EVER, since Section 60 was established.

Lumpers are here having a meltdown over it, going after gold star families

No one is going after Gold Star families - at least have the respect to capitalize the group's name. Not a single families name has been mentioned by anyone on these threads.

What is being criticized is that an already convicted felon AGAIN violated federal laws - including having one of his male goons push aside a female ANC employee rightly doing her job - and he's using the ignorance of those families to defend his own demeaning behavior in failing to show the decorum such a sacred site demands of its visitors.

And by ignorance, I mean the families either don't know or don't care that just because their deceased lie there, they can't unilaterally decide that federal laws and cemetery protocols can be violated simply because they wanted a photo taken.

The rules are not made by the families, they're made by the government, period.

Gold Star families who have earned the right to take pictures if they want

Another already disproven lie. This place reeks like Trump's overloaded Depends. The families that invited him spoke at the RNC convention in support of his candidacy, they were not apolitical families at all.

Visit post #44 for the relevant law and stop lying. The Army itself stated Trump violated federal law and written protocols prohibiting exactly what his campaign did.

Biden posted a picture of himself at Arlington in a campaign ad in 2020.

A photo taken by an AP photographer in 2010, not a photo taken by Trump's own paid photographer and posted hours later on social media with pointed criticism of his political opponents.

Biden's also contained a disclaimer to any connection or endorsement by the Defense Department. His photo showed no headstone names, no other people, and falls within complete legality. Biden is making no political gestures, as he walks in dignified solitude with his head bowed.

Try that with Trump's grinning thumbs and compare the differences, Mr. False Comparison. Again, with the deceitfulness when given the truth and proper context. This is why I despise your ilk so. You're happily dividing this nation in service of a criminal lunatic.

How do you live with yourself?

Asked for examples of the technique, the Trump campaign provided what it called a "masterclass weave" - a four-minute, 20-second video of the candidate speaking at a rally in Asheville, N.C., in August in which he bounces from energy bills to Hunter Biden's laptop to Venezuelan tar to mental institutions in Caracas to migrant crime to "the green new scam" to Vice President Kamala Harris.

His campaign did not identify which English professor friends of his had complimented his style.

"I highly doubt that Donald Trump has any English professor friends," said Timothy O'Brien, a Trump biographer. "What this really reflects is that he is aware of the criticism that he is publicly saying nonlinear, nonsensical word salad, and he is trying to pretend there is a strategy or logic behind it when there isn't."

Drew Lichtenberg, a lecturer at Catholic University of America and an artistic producer at the Shakespeare Theater Company in Washington, said that "the closest comparison to what Trump is talking about here in Shakespeare - fragments of unrelated subjects that are woven together - is, of course, Lear's mad scene at Dover."

I'm sure that's exactly what Trump means when he calls his speaking style genius - he's mimicking the Shakespearean style of mad King Lear.

Makes perfect sense to me.

Perhaps you don't understand what "gaslighting" actually means?

Amongst a list of things stretching the length of the universe....

We'll be waiting for publication of those "invitations" to the President and Vice President.

I'm sure the families will be posting them any second now. They first made the allegations almost a week ago. Maybe they're having trouble finding copies or something, who knows?

Anyone seen Strawbringer's derriere? I think he lost it somewhere in this thread.

"Biden continually looking at his watch during the "dignified" transfer of the bodies told us all we needed to know"

The US was still in the middle of the withdrawal. Perhaps Biden had a Situation Room meeting that he didn't want to miss. I admit that I'd find this off-putting too. But him referring to Beau was his attempt at empathy and reminding the families he too suffered a heartbreaking loss of a son due to his service in Iraq.

A person would have to be bereft of compassion to complain about this when every story ever written about Joe tells that Beau's death is something he's never gotten over and haunts him to this day. Still, if Biden were aware of how some felt he would have apologized on the spot, not send his goons out to publicly denigrate the families criticizing him like Trump's people did with the ANC employee assaulted and trashed for only doing her job.

I bet turnout is at record lows in November.

You are a moron's moron. See you on November 6th or about 2 weeks later for the final tallies.

It's absolute idiocy to complain about a political process in a political party that you DON'T support. The party decides its rules, not those like you who refuse to even join and try to affect change through the process of selling your ideas to a majority.

There isn't a single Democrat that I'm aware of complaining about the manner in which Kamala was nominated and elected the Party's presidential nominee. The only complainers are those invested in seeing Democrats LOSE, and now their fantasies are blowing up in their faces as Trump decompensates for all the world to see - proving his unfitness for office and his disconnection from reality.

I'm not shutting up.

Well, continuing to talk without action is going to get you exactly what you're complaining about now.

You deserve what you get.

Once in my ------- life I want to actually vote FOR a Candidate and not against a far worse one.

Get your ass off this blog and go out and find a candidate you agree with and put together a majority of voters who agree with you!

Quit bitching about what others don't provide for your privileged ass and put in the work it takes to get what you want.

Otherwise, STFU!

Biden did not seek re-election so then the DNC in its infinite wisdom decided the voters had to just accept a mediocre ex criminal prosecutor as the Candidate without any open primaries or any competition for the Nomination.

Again, total ignorance. The Democratic National Committee followed its own rules when Joe Biden stepped down. The party took open nominations for President and VP - no one other than Kamala Harris and Tim Walz put their hats into the ring.

There was no need for what would have been an openly divisive fight after the GOP convention had already finished. States run primaries, not political parties. There was no mechanism to hold repeat primaries as well as no need. The Vice President stepped up and replaced the President at the head of the ticket, amazingly for the uninformed, just like the Constitution dictates when a President has to step down from office for any reason.

Anyone who fails to understand that the succession process was followed to the letter doesn't know a damn thing that they're trying to talk about.

[T]he new links between Saudi and Trump go even deeper, stretching into Saudi Arabia's latest foray into foreign investments: golf. Throwing billions of dollars into professional golf - all as a way of transforming Riyadh into a destination of global sports - Saudi backed the recent creation of LIV Golf, the rising competitor to PGA Golf. One of the kingdom's key partners in the new league? Trump, naturally. In early 2024, Riyadh tapped Trump to host LIV Golf tournaments at his own courses - making it "another major source of new revenue for the Trump family."

Indeed, calling all of these Saudi arrangements a major inflow for the Trump brood is an understatement. In one of the most sordid - or swampiest - arrangements seen since Trump departed the White House, Trump's underqualified, underexperienced son-in-law, Jared Kushner, managed to land a $2 billion investment from the Saudis for his brand-new investment firm. Even Saudi officials were at first spooked by the deal, shying away from Kushner's initial proposal. But as the Intercept reported, after officials recommended against the investment, MBS himself stepped in to approve the deal, keen to sink Saudi Arabia's financial claws into Trump's family that much further.

These are just the deals that we know about; given the financial opacity of everything from the American real-estate industry to things like the investment funds Kushner oversees - areas that Biden's Treasury Department is specifically targeting for increased transparency, thankfully - it's entirely possible that there's a world of additional investments, purchases, and arrangements that we still don't know about and that we'll only learn about in years to come.