To summarize Visitor's postion

1. The offending ad never existed
2. The offending ad was actually a Harris campaign fabrication.
3. The offending ad was not actually associated with the ------- campaign.
4. The offending ad was associated with the ------- campaign, but was not against the law
5. The offending ad was put out by the ------- campaign, was against the law but ok, because.....troops

How does one debate people like this?

Of course he is lying. Every out of his mouth is a lie

He is the jeffj of the presidential race

Oh seeet summer child he sold out for votes AND money

Jesus. The original rape baby

You literally tried to insult me saying I watched Down Syndrome midget porn. You are literally condemning those things.

You're such a maroon

Look at Jeff being ableist and anti-short people

You should try it sometime. It might make u less of a dick
Btw what is the best part of the animal murder porn for you? The exploded bodies the squeals of the dying or the overall vibe of killing the innocent?

What gets your teeny tiny ------ the furthest from limp u can get?

How come I'm not surprised Jeff watched animal murder porn

Biden went from a very good president to a great president by stepping down.

I am fearing that magats may force a civil war by screwing with the certification of the election

" You do realize that there are professionals who study (at universities) how to plan a municipality, right?"
They don't dictate pricing, which is what Kamala is proposing. Also, no city council in an affluent community is going to approve Section 8 housing project.

#16 | Posted by BellRinger

And here is where I have to talk to you like you are a mentally challenged 5 year old.

You see, there is the federal government, the state government, the county (or parish) government and the municipal goverment.

Each of these entities passes laws.

Ex. A State government can pass a law dictating that a municipality MUST have a number of affordable housing units.

The municipality then develops zoning plans that meet that requirement.

Pricing is not what is dictated, but what IS dictated is that the type of housing built is to meet the affordable housing price points, i.e. condos, apartments, etc.

This is incredibly basic municipal planning stuff.

@13

You're just plain dumb

You realize that urban areas like DC or NYC or Chicago or smaller cities like Jacksonville NEED low and lower middle-income employees, right? They need service workers, clerks, entry level professionals, etc.

These people need places to live.

You can either plan to put them IN the place where the employment is, in affordable housing, OR you will have MASSIVE transportation needs. You cannot have neither.

And public housing is NOT the sole solution, it is part of the solution and can be accomplished quite well.

It can be done through subsidized housing, where the state or municipality pay for part of the rent/mortgage.

OR it can be done through REQUIRING developers to incorporate housing affordable to low and lower middle-income families.

The latter is by far the best option as it promotes wealth generation and reduces public costs.

@12

You clearly are completely ignorant with regards to development.

Municipalities throughout the country have zoning laws. These zoning laws dictate what can be constructed on the land. That way smelting company isn't built next to a daycare.

Municipalities, through their zoning laws dictate what size lots are permitted on a plot of land, how that plot of land is broken up, the number and type of units (i.e. senior citizen, condos, affordable, mansions, etc.). The purpose is to control development so that municipal services, i.e. roads, schools are NOT overwhelmed and to assure that developers don't cater to the highest profit housing leaving most citizens without the ability to buy a house (that is the danger of these investment firms buying all of these residential properties- the control over costs is thrown out as the investment firms care only for profit.

You do realize that there are professionals who study (at universities) how to plan a municipality, right? They understand demographics, environmental impacts, transportation, and help design laws to protect society from over or poor development.

I'll give you an example.

I have a client town that pushed for an massive increase in housing, because that increased property tax income. Except they didn't consider demographics. So, now a few years later, the town's schools are overwhelmed with kids as the demographics of the development encouraged young families, who all started having kids around the same time. Now they have like 40 kids per classroom in elementary school and less than 20 kids per classroom in HS. Busing is now a HUGE issue as kids are bussed all over town (in a semi-urban environment making traffic a nightmare).

That is why government plan and zone housing.

" And I would say that "affordable housing" is not a measurable objective."

Cause you're a moron

Affordable housing has a specific definition of housing cost relative to medium income

It is defined by a measurable objective

" Can you walk me throught how the government would create more "affordable" housing?"

Mandating it for large developments

You see people study this stuff and know what drives costs ie location type size etc of the housing

So governments can limit lot size require a specific number of smaller houses require condos instead of single family homes

Governments can offer tax incentives to builders for affordable houses
So yeah you're ignorant on the topic

The Republican Party is becoming the He - Man Women Haters Club before our eyes

"On top of that he sent goons .."

Why do you hate the police jeff?

Let's consider Jeff's argument, Governor Walz was too lenient on the rioters AND also too hard on the protestors.

I think we should look at what ------- said about Governor Walz and the protest.

"What they did in Minneapolis was incredible. They went in and dominated, and it happened immediately,"

Yeah, jeff like the republican nominee is lost in the wilderness looking for his ass.

Our country is broken

Consciousness of guilt

third term abortions of viable babies never occur it wouldn't harm anyone to ban them. A reasonable compromise would be to require medical reasons for late term abortions.

#13 | POSTED BY VISITOR_ A

That's what we had with roe v wade you stupid stupid ----

Donnie Fat Tongue

"This is a direct result of that orange ------- turd, heritage foundation, corrupt scotus committing perjury, those two pieces of ---- alito and thomas, hotwheel and every piece of ---- in texas that did not follow the will of the people."

And don't forget the author of SB8 the bounty law who will be the AG under a ------- regime and will implement a nation wide ban

#5 When it becomes the law what will prevent that from happening? How could we know how often it happens where it's legal? Medical records are private and the kind of people that would abort a viable child aren't likely to advertise it.

#9 | Posted by visitor

So, let's take your argument on it's face. Our government is passing laws that will negatively impact women based on no information? On the thought that it might happen?

But, then again, you are wrong.

All sorts of groups study why, when, who, where, how women get abortions.

All of these studies show that women get late term abortions for one of 2 reasons-fetal viability and health of the mother. Full Stop.

If you had ever met a pregnant woman or ---- a woman, you will know that they do not go through 9 months of pregnancy to decide, f' it lets abort this ----.

But you want the government in that room interfering with a woman making the most profound, impactful, life altering, often hazardous decision of their lives.

I say stay the ---- out, it is none of your business