How do you know they're gang members?

Yes, it is. Unless you don't think increasing the deficit is a harm to taxpayers and future taxpayers.

#199 | Posted by BellRinger

You aren't bright enough to debate this.

Mohela was the party in the lawsuit, not the taxpayers, not Congress

DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS?

MOHELA is not the tax payers suffering a harm that the deficit would increase

MOHELA is a loan processing organization that would have made money off Biden's program.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS NOT WHAT THE LAWSUIT WAS ABOUT?

BECAUSE THE SC DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE THAT DECISION-THAT IS A POWER OF CONGRESS

What harm did the party to the student loan forgiveness program suffer that thus made them a party to a lawsuit reviewed by the SC?

To educate you, MOHELA (the Missouri loan program administrator) was the party that the state AGs claimed suffered harm.

Thus giving MOHELA standing that courts could adjudicate

But, MOHELA did not agree to be a party to that lawsuit

Mohel stood to make money off the forgiveness program

SOO, there was no harm there.

Thus the SC did not have the authority to rule on that case.

the entity that DID have power to stop Biden was Congress, who could have a. filed suit, or b. passed legislation to stop him.

They chose not to.

So, the SC stepped in to restrict Biden-that is called legislating NOT adjudicating.

Taxpayers funding the loans of people's votes Biden was attempting to buy.

#194 | Posted by BellRinger

That isn't a harm dumbass.

But, I THINK what you are saying is that Biden was misappropriating funds.

They harm then would have been a harm to Congress' power.

How come Congress didn't take action to stop Biden?

How can harm be ascribed to Mohela when Mohela stood to MAKE money off of Biden's initial SL forgiveness program?

What does one call a SC decision that is untethered from a harm?

What harm was remedied by the SC's decision in the student loan forgiveness case?

I have never commented on that issue as I have not studied it.

What harm was remedied by the SC's decision in the student loan forgiveness case?

Do you know what standing is in a court case?

Who had standing to challenge the first student loan forgiveness program?

" Did Biden defy a court order by enacting the student loan forgiveness program under a different statute?
#178 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2025-03-19 11:11 PM | FLAG: "

Yes, because from where I sit he was flinging feces at the wall and hoping something would stick.

I felt the exact same when during his first term Trump diverted appropriated funding to border wall construction.

#183 | Posted by BellRinger at

That is because you are an idiot who doesn't understand ----.

Were any US citizens sent out on those flights?

Were any legal residents of the US on those flights?

Were any people with protected status on those flights?

If it's a bill passed by Congress, signed by POTUS and doesn't get overturned via judicial review? Yes, of course.

#180 | Posted by BellRinger

Ok, since that is what Biden did with mask mandates and vaccines you can no go ---- yourself.

" And it's toally fine that Trump violated a court order to deport a bunch of people he claims were in a gang. (with no proof)"

The flight was already in the air. And I already said that no further flights should be carried out until this gets resolved in the judicial system. I've pointed this opinion out to you multiple times now and you continue to say otherwise.

#177 | Posted by BellRinger at

It is my understanding that one of the flights was still on the ground when the order was given

Did Biden defy a court order by enacting the student loan forgiveness program under a different statute?

Does the government have the authority to mandate behavior in a national emergency?

" And Biden was a tAkIng ouR frEEdOms by asking us to wear a mask and get a shot."

Asked? We were not "asked". Further, I complied with the mask mandates and got multiple COVID shots. So eff right off with your incessant straw.

#170 | Posted by BellRinger

Does the government have the authority to mandate children who attend public schools receive measles vaccines?

I have 3 copies of the Constitution in my house and one resides on my night stand. I periodically flip through it and have read it in its entirety on numerous occasions.

#167 | Posted by BellRinger a

Your lips move when you read, don't they?

Jeff loves the constitution but can't explain why the SC should not have taken the student loan forgiveness case.

Cause he doesn't UNDERSTAND the constitution

I just want to point out that I posted incontrovertible proof that Jeff was wrong and then I predicted he would not admit he was wrong and would continue to lie.

I was right, again.

And just a bigger picture type thing.

This type of damage to a program like this is not easily fixed.

Like shutting down USAID immediately is going to cause the death of millions.

This will cause the loss of benefits to countless

And the fix to this damage will not be easy or smooth.

I thought SS was one of those third rail type things.

Of course, I thought due process rights was a universally approved right.

Oh well, thanks magat scum

Just another thing to thank magat scum for.

I notice OK senator got Doge to reopen SS offices in his state.

So, yeah, corruption on top of the cruelty.

But, do not fear, magat scum will be hurt by this.

So, at least we will be able to point and laugh at the magat scum.

----, even gravyamazed will be forced to go to a SS office to confirm her identity. It will be like the waiting room to hell, so there is that.

Ok, to clarify, and correct the misperception that some idiots are raising.

This change requires a SS recipient to GO TO A SS OFFICE whenever there is a change in benefits OR a change in direct deposit information.

To verify identification.

Who receives SS?

Disabled and old people

The example I posted that was cut when the thread was moved to the Front Page is the perfect exemplar.

A 90-year-old wheel bound woman whose husband dies will have to go to a SS office to deal with the change in her benefits.

If you can't understand the problem with that, I just don't know.

SS recipients live in Assisted Living facilities, are in hospice care, live in long term mental health facilities, live in old age homes say for the last couple of years of their lives when they are simply immobile.

These people will now have to find a SS office, go to it and get approved.

That is cruel.

NOW combine that with the closure of SS offices and they have announced plans to eliminate 7,000 staff members.

71.6 MILLION Americans are on SS

Assume say 5 % per year have a need to change their benefits or direct deposit

There is what like 250 workdays during the year?

Thats 14,320 people processed PER DAY

That is a complete addition to the normal work performed by the social security staff in the offices.

So, yeah this is evil

Isn't it odd that magat scum are making jokes about the literal death of our constitution?

Just to be clear, cutting USAID WILL kill millions of people, mostly children.

Magat scum are truly VILE