US marines probably dd the killing

Truth,
"THERE IS NO PLAN, THERE IS NO GOAL, THEY ARE WINGING IT"
You really believe a multi nation military operation just happened without extensive planning with set goals?
#132 | Posted by BillJohnson

Yes, I do.

I know Israel has a goal. It is destroying Iran to the point that Iran no longer can stand in the way of their genocide.

Israel wants to destroy the Iranian government to the point that Iran collapses into civil war.

THAT HAS BEEN NETANYAHU'S STATED GOAL FOR 40 YEARS!

Israel has Iraq and Syria and Jordan and Saudi Arabia between them and Iran. Israel figures that Iran collapsing won't blow back on them.

Does that serve America's interests?

Is that the goal we are seeking? to collapse the Iranian regime like we did in Iraq?

And btw in a democracy it is my opinion that the president has an obligation to justify taking his country to war you know to the people.

i cannot comprehend how anyone could think differently

Our servicemen are dying, we are spending BILLIONS.

WHY?

Truth,
Just because he hasn't provided a full disclosure to your satisfaction doesn't mean anything.
You're just assuming it does.
This is a concerted effort of more than one country who have their own objectives.
You're expecting too much.
In the middle of an unfolding conflict, the Commander in Chief isn't going to lay out every operational detail for the public.

#131 | Posted by BillJohnson at 20

Read again what Rubio said

There absolutely was an imminent threat,' Rubio stated. 'And the imminent threat was that we knew that if Iran was attacked, and we believed they would be attacked, that they would immediately come after us, and we were not going to sit there and absorb a blow before we responded.'

These are his words, from his mouth.

Do you have the ability to evaluate what Rubio is saying?

Israel informed the US that they intended on attacking Iran. "and we believed they would be attacked"

The US attacked Iran because Israel was going to attack Iran and the administration feared Iran would attack us

Why on god's green earth is the mightiest military in the history of the world following Israel?

Why didn't Piggy tell Netanyahu NO?

That alone means there is no plan. We were reacting to what Iran would do when Israel attacked them. To what end? IT IS NOWHERE IN RUBIO's STATEMENT.

Seriously Bill, you can't understand this it is beyond your capability to comprehend.

How does that work when we unilaterally pulled out of an agreement and then attacked THEM in the midst of negotiations?

Twice BTW

Japan only did that once and they at least tried to get a DoW before the Pearl Harbor attack.

Assassinating government leaders is illegal

Starting a war without warning is what Japan did

That's the point Bill, Piggy hasn't expressed a coherent goal for this war.

Each administration official contradicts each other. Piggy gives contradictory reasoning in the various bleats he makes

Let's be absolutely clear

It is completely insane that Piggy hasn't, at the very least, gone to the American people and explained what the F is going on. He even had a press event after kidnapping Maduro.

This war is shaping up to be infinitely larger than that operation and Piggy can't be bothered to explain why he is doing this.

Is it regime change? He and Rubio have called for the Iranians to overthrow the regime. Is that the goal? Would YOU believe him if YOU were an Iranian?

Is it a Venezuelan like operation, decapitate the leader and deal with what is left over? How does that play in a theocracy?

Is it obliterating the nuclear program that was already obliterated?

Is it, what did Hegseth say, preventing them from projecting power? Like WTF does that mean?

Are we doing Israel's bidding as Rubio stated and Netanyahu has implied?

Is it about proxies?

Is it about ballistic missiles?

Is it to pressure Iran back to the negotiating table? How does that work when we unilaterally pulled out of an agreement and then attacked THEM in the midst of negotiations?

Seriously, this is insane.

the ONLY logical conclusion is that Piggy himself doesn't have a firm concept of what he wants.

THERE IS NO PLAN, THERE IS NO GOAL, THEY ARE WINGING IT

If I were anyone in that chain of command I would avoid this like the plague if I didn't want to spend the rest of my life having my salary garnished to pay off the lawsuits

No.
I wouldn't begin to presume I understand global economics.
#123 | Posted by BillJohnson a

Yet you think that "something to do with economic stability" is the goal of the war.

Try to think before you post.

Ask yourself What would truthhurts say? Then post that. If you correctly post what I would say then you would be correct.

If you don't know what I would say then well you should not post, because you would only be wrong.

Well that doesn't include the Austin Tx victims

How many Americans need to die for Israel?

#5 | Posted by LegallyYourDead a

6 and counting

"The State Department is in survival mode because as we know the administration reduced their budget by almost half," he added.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

That's some funny doge right there

I see your shallow cognitive skills were unable to expound on "something to do with economic stability"

Perhaps you can recognize your inability to consider matters in depth and stop participating.

'There absolutely was an imminent threat,' Rubio stated. 'And the imminent threat was that we knew that if Iran was attacked, and we believed they would be attacked, that they would immediately come after us, and we were not going to sit there and absorb a blow before we responded.'

According to the SoS the US got into a major war in fear of retaliation from an Israeli attack.

This is Israel dictating our foreign policy and war.

Even Mussolini wasn't forced into war by Hitler.

LOL

What an answer!?

Something to do with economic stability.

"Attention. Here's an update on tonight's dinner. It was veal. I repeat, veal. The winner of tonight's mystery meat contest is Jeffrey Corbin who guessed "some kind of beef."

Can you be more specific?

I remember when launching a sneak attack on another country was considered a bitch move

Why it's a simple question? You could have answered it already

I predict Bill will disappear only to reappear a few hours from now on a different thread

Bill what are the goals of this war?

Zed,
"Merely of scale, BILL. Not substance."
Iran is a threat to their entire region and is on a mission to destroy Israel and the United States. Other Arab nations are even supporting US efforts.
Iran has deliberately slaughtered tens of thousands of protestors who disagree with the insanity of their leaders.
ICE has accidently killed people who put themselves in harms way of the police who are on a legitimate mission to arrest criminals.
You're f****** kidding me (or yourself) if you think this is just a matter of scale.
Pull your head out of your a** and wake up to reality.
#104 | Posted by BillJohnson

What about the threat to the region that Israel poses?

What about the active genocide that Israel is perpetuating?

Fact: Iran has zero capability to "destroy" the United States and in fact has little capability to harm the US.

You realize that Piggy is doing these Arab nation's bidding, right?

BTW what do you mean, "other Arab nations" other than who?

Many nations do many bad things. My question to you is, So what? Are we reacting to that? If so, what is the plan of action in response to that? You realize that without putting boots on the ground the US will be incapable of stopping future atrocities. And shouldn't Piggy come to the country and say that is the goal?

You and reality have little in common.

Religion doesn't change that reality.

#79 | Posted by BillJohnson

that is mighty funny coming from a religionista

Truth,
"SANCTIONS"
Sanctions are what you do after an agreement is broken.
They don't prevent it from being broken.
So what's your plan before that point?

#74 | Posted by BillJohnson a

You don't even understand what an agreement is

the JCPOA had robust inspections

The JCPOA had mechanisms to resolve disputes

the JCPOA was working fine

the JCPOA had conditions that automatically put the sanctions back in place for non-compliance

Agreements are something to build trust on when the parties do not trust each other

America broke from the JCPOA;, despite Iran complying

America was in negotiations last June when the attacked Iran without justification

America was negotiating with Iran last week when Piggy attacked them without justification

Reports are that Iran was willing to accept all the conditions put on them by the US

America attacked them any way

America targeted the Iranian leader, against international and US law

I have a question for YOU

What is Iran to do when America repeatedly breaks the agreement?

Corky,
"So why are they so dangerous now?"
I don't know.
I don't attend classified meetings.
Do you?

#68 | Posted by BillJohnson

Did you know that on the tablets that Moses brought down from the mountain with the 10 commandments on them had fine print saying "Iran is a week away from having a nuclear bomb"?

What's your plan when that happens again?

#67 | Posted by BillJohnson

repeat after me

SANCTIONS

The thing that the JCPOA said was the penalty for non-compliance

You know, what an agreement is for

Truth,
"Enough about Christianity."
That's not an answer, it's a dodge.

#62 | Posted by BillJohnson

Ambassador Huckabee is actively trying to bring on the Armegeddon.

Bill

I don't know how to have a debate with you when you are so ignorant of basic facts

the JCPOA had inspections. Iran was complying with the inspections.

Piggy pulled us out of that treaty, unilaterally

the IAEA could inspect ANYWHERE they wanted, ANYWHERE they suspected Iran had a nuke program

Iran was complying, fully.

those are simple facts.

Seriously, EDUCATE YOURSELF