Saturday, June 21, 2025

The Most Dangerous Corporation in America

Robert Reich: In Tolkien's Lord of the Rings, a "palantir" is a seeing stone that can be used to distort truth and present selective visions of reality. During the War of the Ring, a palantir falls under the control of Sauron, who uses it to manipulate and deceive. Palantir Technologies bears a striking similarity.

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In Tolkien's Lord of the Rings, a "palantir" is a seeing stone that can be used to distort truth and present selective visions of reality.

Palantir Technologies bears a striking similarity.

Be warned. https://robertreich.substack.com/p/palantir-the-worst-of-the-corporate[image or embed]

-- Robert Reich (@rbreich.bsky.social) Jun 20, 2025 at 12:11 PM

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I have come to the conclusion that we will not know when we actually cross the event horizon to the point where AI is in control of human behavior.

This may just be the initial experimental stage or it may even have already happened.

All I can say for sure is that the Singularity is Nearer.

#1 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-06-21 11:03 AM

I'm starting to think Theil is a bigger operator in this disaster than Miller or Vought & Project 2025. Forget trump, he's just a combination sock-puppet & scapegoat.

#2 | Posted by Yodagirl at 2025-06-21 11:23 AM

I hate to admit this, but a few years ago, before Trump was returned to office, at the end of the year my wife was forced to take a Required Minimum Distribution (RMD) from her IRA (I take a normal monthly draw from my IRA so I don't need to take an RMD at the end of the year). Anyway, this happens every year and sometimes she takes the money and spends it on something extra that she wanted but that year she didn't really need the extra cash so our wealth manager (they used to be called financial analysts, but wealth manager sounds more positive) suggested that she purchase some stocks instead. He made a recommendations at the time, Palantir Technologies. We agreed and he bought 97 shares. The following year, after Palantir had dropped, he took my wife's RMD and added more Palantir shares. The last purchase was in April 2023. This put our cost basis at around $16/share. By then we had 223 shares of Palantir.

As of the market's close yesterday, Palantir was trading at $137.30/share, a gain of just over $27,000, for an annualized return of over 85%.

That last time our wealth manager added to the shares of Palantir, he also bought some Home Depot, which has only given us an annualized return of just under 5%, not bad, but I sure wish he had used that money to buy more Palantir, but it had just dropped to about a third of what our initial shares had cost us and he wanted to diversify a bit. At the time, it seemed the right thing to do as he was sure that both Palantir and Home Depot were a good investment, and while he was correct, it could have been a lot better if he had only invested in Palantir.

Anyway, we're now thinking of having our wealth manager sell the Palantir and take the profits, but then we'd have to pay at least capital gains tax as this stock account is not tax-deferred as it's been funded from the RMD's from my wife's IRA.

OCU

#3 | Posted by OCUser at 2025-06-21 12:37 PM

Palantir is making people in the UK nervous too with an invasive contract the police awarded them:

A controversial US spy tech firm has landed a contract with UK police to develop a surveillance network that will incorporate data about citizens' political opinions, philosophical beliefs, health records, and other sensitive personal information. Palantir Technologies has partnered with police forces in the East of England to establish a "real-time data-sharing network" that includes the personal details of vulnerable victims, children and witnesses alongside suspects. Trade union membership, sexual orientation and race are among the other types of personal information being processed. The project has sparked alarm from campaigners who fear it will trample over Britons' human rights and "facilitate dystopian predictive policing" and indiscriminate mass surveillance.

Source:
libertyinvestigates.org.uk

#4 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-06-21 01:51 PM

That's a highly selective description of what they are in the Tolkien legendarium.

They are seeing stones that show only reality as they were meant to be used as a means of communications between leaders. In that regard, they are neutral.

What one shows through them can be used to influence other's perceptions and perspectives, which is what Sauron did to corrupt and or intimidate rivals.

I suspect the company's missions and goals are much the same-thought by those doing it to be good and beneficial and, in some ways it is, but easily used or abused by bad faith actors for nefarious purposes.

#5 | Posted by jpw at 2025-06-21 01:56 PM

OCU

My advice would be to use the money to change your IRA withdrawal from monthly to once, annually.

I always tell clients to set the dispersion for December 15. That way, you a) get the advantage of the market gains, year in and year out, b) extend the life and value of the IRA, and c) have two weeks to make sure it happened, since if it didn't, that's legally YOUR fault.

Anyway, I also applaud your advisor's recommendation to diversify. While investing hindsight is always 20/20, we all remember Enron, and the lesson about putting all the eggs in one basket.

#6 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-06-21 01:57 PM

"...about citizens' political opinions, philosophical beliefs, health record [...] Trade union membership, sexual orientation and race"

ANYTHING they cull, can-and-will be used against the private citizen. And none of these things should matter, in that arena.

What TF does my Trade Union membership have to do with my rights for protection? Or my political opinions?

And HEALTH RECORDS?!? That's a violation of HIPAA. Again...WTF is the point? Do I deserve different justice because I've had a heart attack?

#7 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-06-21 02:05 PM

SteamingTheCat(Reddit):

In WW2, IBM's German division aided the Holocaust in ghetto statistics, train traffic management, and concentration camp capacity.

Yes, data processing can be as evil and deadly as the actual bullets.

en.m.wikipedia.org

#8 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-06-21 04:31 PM

These is why we call these people Silicon Valley fascists

#9 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-06-21 04:33 PM

My advice would be to use the money to change your IRA withdrawal from monthly to once, annually.

I always tell clients to set the dispersion for December 15. That way, you a) get the advantage of the market gains, year in and year out, b) extend the life and value of the IRA, and c) have two weeks to make sure it happened, since if it didn't, that's legally YOUR fault.

Anyway, I also applaud your advisor's recommendation to diversify. While investing hindsight is always 20/20, we all remember Enron, and the lesson about putting all the eggs in one basket.

#6 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-06-21 01:57 PM

Note that both of our IRA's are very diversified and our return has been well above the market averages. That stock account is just where my wife's Required Minimum Distributions were deposited and is only about a quarter of what her IRA is worth. Note that the annual RMD's are the only funds that she's ever taken from her IRA.

When I retired (my wife, who's older than me, had already retired about seven years earlier to take care of her mother), in addition to our Social Security checks, I had also earned three defined benefit pensions (something that today's young people will never know anything about). Now one of these pensions was from where I first worked after graduating from engineering school, and it wasn't worth all that much, it was only going to pay something less than $150/month, so I took it as a lump sum when I turned 65 and just put it in the bank. Another pension I had to start taking when I turned 65, again, most of that money was banked. The third and largest pension I was allowed to defer while the cash value continued to collect interest. I didn't start taking it until I retired, which was when I was 68. That's also when I started my Social Security. BTW, both of my mountly pensions are fully vested so my wife will get 100% survivors benefit (although her being older, that might not be as big an issue as it would be with most couples).

Anyway, what we worked out with our wealth manager was that between our two Social Security checks, my two monthly pensions, plus a monthly draw from my IRA, we've managed to not change our life style. We're basically living on the same 'take-home' that I was getting just before I retired. Now that was just over nine years ago and my wife's IRA is now worth at least half again as much as when they rolled over her 401k (she's 79 and has had to take out those RMD's ever since she was 73) and mine is almost 85% of what it was when I rolled over my 401k and I've been taking out well over what the annual RMD would have been each year. So all in all, I think we're doing okay.

OCU

#10 | Posted by OCUser at 2025-06-21 06:29 PM

OCU,

It looks like you got some very good advice over the years. Nicely done. I especially like your trio of DB pensions.

I've got a pair of defined benefit pensions, also with the 100% survivor's benefit. My wife is about a year younger than me, so that was an easy option to choose.

Our plan has been to live off our Taxable IRAs for the time being, so we can increase each of our SS payments to the max. And it turned out I didn't want to retire when I turned 65, as I'd always believed. So for the time being, I'm actually taking extra out of our taxable IRAs, then turning around and maxing out our Roth IRAs. Our goal is as much in Roth IRAs as possible, and as little in Traditional IRAs as needed. Our three pensions and SS will, of course, be taxable, but for the next three years before the RMDs, we'll live on pensions, SS, and ROTH IRAs.

Once we hit RMDs, the plan is to use ALL RMDs for charity, via Qualified Charitable Distributions. That way: no income tax, federal or state.

#11 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-06-21 07:10 PM

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