Murder rate 5x higher w/o todays medical advancement

Tuesday, December 30, 2025

Murder rates would be up to five times higher than they are but for medical developments over the past 40 years. According to new research, doctors are saving the lives of thousands of victims of attack who four decades ago would have died and become murder statistics. Although the study is based on US data, the researchers say the principle applies to other countries too: "There is reason to expect a similar trend overall in Britain," said Dr Anthony Harris, the lead author of the study.

Posted by oneironaut at 09:18 AM | 10 COMMENTS | permalink

The US is more violent than you think.

Comments

You're just as ------- stupid as we all thought.

#1 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-12-30 04:56 PM

It is not just the medical advancements - it is better 911, cellphones, GPS, etc. This allows for much faster response times. The advancements have really painted a distorted picture of just how bad the big blue -------- cities are.

#2 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-12-30 11:13 PM

United States ERs are experts in gunshot wound treatment, compared to the rest of the modern world.

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-30 11:21 PM

Another huge help:

Ambulances now bring the ER to you. The tech in emergency vehicles has improved by leaps and bounds over the last decade.

#4 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-12-30 11:42 PM

I'm curious how much has changed since the article was written in 2002. Guns are still out of control

#5 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-12-31 01:17 AM

" I'm curious how much has changed since the article was written in 2002"

You could certainly double that 5X number.

#6 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-12-31 01:22 AM

" United States ERs are experts in gunshot wound treatment, compared to the rest of the modern world."

Snoofy, have you seen The Pitt? It's set in an ER in Pittsburgh, and won the Emmy in its first year for best drama. Noah Wylie is the lead, as well as executive producer. It's terrific.

#7 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-12-31 05:08 AM

"I'm curious how much has changed since the article was written in 2002. Guns are still out of control."

Potentially, a lot. Since 2002, tens of thousands of medical professionals served in war zones, treating victims who had been shot or blown up. Many of them likely went on to work as civilians in the medical field.

A few miles from my house is Landstuhl Regional Medical Center. For the past 24 years, it has been where injured service members were treated. My understanding is that it is still treating injured Ukrainians. If you have a cold or need any sort of routine medical treatment, the place is awful. For severe injuries, it might be the best treatment facility on the planet.

#8 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-12-31 06:37 AM

"Snoofy, have you seen The Pitt?"

I don't watch much TV, maybe I'll check it out.

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-31 02:52 PM

ER professionals have praised the show as the most realistic they've ever seen.

The premise is cool as well: each episode is one hour in the same day; the entire season takes place over 15 episodes/hours. They are clearly condensing a few things (the hospital administrator comes by every 15 minutes, it seems), but it's got some terrific writing and great acting. Noah Wiley won the Emmy, and the charge nurse won for best supporting actress.

They've obviously got lots of great technical advisors, but Wylie also hired a choreographer, to make sure everyone could get into their place smoothly, and make it look like they've been doing it for ten years.

It's on HBO Max, if you're looking for it. Highly recommended!

#10 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-12-31 03:30 PM

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