"I mean if a positive result in fines collected vs the cost of collecting those fines is your ultimate goal, why not maximize that criterion?"

I never said that should be the goal - I stated the exact opposite.

"My goal would be, however, to reduce the reason for collecting those fines.
And maybe Los Angeles has been successful in that aspect, and that is why the fines collected have been so small?
#29 | Posted by LampLighter"

Great, maybe if you learn reading comprehension skills, you could have read any one of my posts above where I made that exact point many times already. I am happy you finally made it to this place in thinking but I am not going to waste my time guiding you there ever again. You are just too damn dense.

"I mean if a positive result in fines collected vs the cost of collecting those fines is your ultimate goal, why not maximize that criterion?"

I never said that should be the goal - I stated the exact opposite.

"My goal would be, however, to reduce the reason for collecting those fines.
And maybe Los Angeles has been successful in that aspect, and that is why the fines collected have been so small?
#29 | Posted by LampLighter"

Great, maybe if you learn reading comprehension skills, you could have read any one of my posts above where I made that exact point many times already. I am happy you finally made it to this place in thinking but I am not going to waste my time guiding you there ever again. You are just too damn dense.

"So, your current alias seems to think that it is A Good Thing when a city government seems to operate in an area at a loss?
#25 | Posted by LampLighter"

If I run a police department in a major city and zero property crimes occur and thus, I cannot give fines to people committing the property crimes (as there are none) so I am running at a loss, am I doing a good job or not? Wrap your smooth-brain around that -------.

"No it's not.
#22 | Posted by oneironaut"

You can't fix stupid and lamplighter is exhibit A.

"This thread is about Los Angeles losing money due to the enforcement costs of parking fines.
#19 | Posted by LampLighter"

Which I would argue is not happening -------. They are only 'losing money' because you smooth-brained liberals only include half of the equation. My argument is consistent. Your argument, as usual, does not make any sense.

"Where they seemed to have failed in the ongoing revenue gathered.
But, that's A Good Thing?
#18 | Posted by LampLighter"

Yes, it is a good thing. Taking them out so that they have more money to pay police officers is the bad thing. That is government 101 - grow the size regardless if it helps people or not because the intention of government is not 'governing' - it is enriching politicians and government employees and ensuring stable employment for them.

"Because "revenue generation" is how the operators of those companies sold their product to the city. To that company, yeah, revenue generation was the important aspect of the cameras. Marketing 101."

Any city officials or police that bring in a new technology like a red light camera without the intended purpose being public safety (should be increased public safety at a reduced enforcement cost), should be thrown in jail.

"So the attempted parallel of your current alias' comment seem to be flawed at a basic level.
#16 | Posted by LampLighter "

Actually, my analogy is 100% correct. LA makes money from parking enforcement in 2 ways:

1.) % and amount of people that actually pay - similar to decreasing the get aways for border enforcement
2.) fine collected on those that don't

The positive externalities of public safety increase and better traffic flow don't have a monetary value assigned.

Thus, looking simply at the result for #2 above to judge the cost/benefit is typical smooth-brained liberal logic.

"#14 | Posted by LampLighter"

This reminds of my California city where they removed a red light camera at a major intersection because it was too effective in getting people to obey the law so revenue dropped. Basically, revenue generation was more important than the main purpose which was to ensure safety at the intersection. As I posted above, the success should be judged by how much revenue they are collecting on people obeying the law and paying their meters (due to fear of fines) vs. how much is collected on those not obeying. At the end of the day, the purpose of this program is to scare people into compliance and if fines went to zero, that should be considered a success, not a failure.

LA parking fines are down because you would be a moron to ever park your car there if you intend to come back and not have your windows smashed by the ever present homeless encampments.

That, and that they have credit card capable readers so not having enough quarters (which I suspect was the main reason for tickets in the past), does not occur any more. They should look at total parking fee collections - I suspect that is still increasing.

"Khalil was arrested in front of his wife, who was eight-months pregnant at the time. Welcome to the Fourth Reich: pointofview.net
#1 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS"

Deport this guy and his wife before they ---- out an anchor baby.

The Department of Education has achieved exactly what the Democrats have always envisioned. They have removed standardized testing to hide the poor performance of public schools, they have worked to inflate teacher pay and remove teacher accountability for our failing students, and they have overall dumbed down the public to create a perpetual class of people that will be utterly dependent on government handouts for their entire lives.

Typical move by the Dems - when all else fails, find an activist judge.

"Who could have imagined that when 80% of households fall behind economically for three generations, 80% of children also fall behind academically for three generations?
#50 | Posted by snoofy"

Maybe they fall behind economically because they are stupid and not the other way around.

"You understand this is shocking news because of what Trump is doing, right?
#23 | Posted by snoofy"

And what exactly is Trump doing other than enforcing our immigration laws as they are on the books? If you entered Germany illegally, what do you think they would do to you?

"You need me to explain Trump to you?
#19 | Posted by YAV"

No, you need to explain your mental gymnastics to maintain your perpetual state of outrage.

Here is the exact wording from the article:

""A criminal conviction in the United States, false information regarding the purpose of stay, or even a slight overstay of the visa upon entry or exit can lead to arrest, detention, and deportation upon entry or exit," according to the German Foreign Office advisory."

So, the Germans are simply telling their citizens to follow the law or they will face consequences inclusive of arrest and deportation.

What exactly are you outraged about here? You think we should allow German citizens to break the law without consequences? Please explain yourself as I fear your TDS has become a terminal case.

I will also add - what happens if you overstay your visa in Germany?

"Overstaying your visa in Germany is considered an illegal stay, leading to potential fines, deportation, and a ban from the Schengen area, with the severity of penalties depending on the length of the overstay and any mitigating circumstances."

So, again, where is the outrage when we are just following the same policy as every other country?

"#47 | Posted by TrueBlue"

Yeah, it is all just a giant conspiracy theory...

"This number is ALL US travel and tourism, not just foreign tourism.
#67 | Posted by oneironaut"

You are asking the impossible - asking a liberal to make a fact-based argument. If you make the condition of only using facts, it not fair for Democrats. In person it is still okay because they can still cry. But that is all they have in their debate toolkit.

"The criminal rate for the 'undocumented' (ILLEGAL) is 100%. Try again -------.
You really are one amazingly stupid dumbshht. It's almost an art form. Almost.
#66 | Posted by YAV"

My statement might hurt your fee-fees, but it is 100% factual. Everyone on this board knows it.

"Thank a communist.
#45 | Posted by Dbt2"

Which is why the literacy rate has an almost perfect negative correlation with % of Democrat voters. Big blue liberal --------- like Baltimore and Detroit have literacy rates under 50%.

"The lowest criminal rate is among the undocumented
#63 | Posted by YAV"

The criminal rate for the 'undocumented' (ILLEGAL) is 100%. Try again -------.

"There are all kinds of ways the Untied States spends taxpayer dollars overseas
#59 | Posted by snoofy"

Yes, there are. Elon published the USAID list already. Sorry, I don't want my money spent on Colombian drag shows.

You ------- liberals just got murked in the presidential election - your MSM is collapsing, Elon has cut your NGO feeding trough, and your party has a 27% approval rating. You are literally down to a party of gays, pedophiles, black women, and criminals only. And yet, you still think you are the smart ones that know what is best for the country when the 73% of the country saw what you accomplished for the last 4 years and soundly rejected you. But, please carry on. You can get down to that 20% approval rating if you keep trying.

"Taking away people's useless cushy work from home government jobs is how you get your revenge.
#13 | Posted by snoofy"

It is not revenge, it is common sense. Spend your money wisely. Having you -------- simultaneously crying about Trump making government workers return to the office while also crying that there are not enough people to handle in person issues with the government is the height of stupidity. You have reverted to 2016 era TDS where your only reaction is to disagree with anything Trump proposes.

"What crimes have these Trump II era deportees been convicted of?
#50 | Posted by snoofy"

Illegally entering the country. Next.

"And there I a small difference between a jail and another county you rabid dog
#49 | Posted by truthhurts"

Yeah, in jail you can't see the person whenever you like and the person stays in a cage. Unless you are saying every country outside the US is equivalent to a jail cell.