"The face recognition and CCTV cameras that are used to catch criminals can be used for social control and surveillance.

In England at the moment, there are more closed circuit TV cameras than in the whole of North America.

China is putting 600 million CCTV cameras into its country this year and
they are developing social control. It's already operating in 13 cities.

And the
basic idea, they will probably modify it a little, is that each citizen is given 300 points. And people are tracked.

They're observed. And if they're seen buying something that the authorities think might be a waste of time or going to a questionable place, they lose points.

And then they begin to discover that their credit card won't be accepted or that they can't get onto a train or they can't go to their favorite restaurant or they do things that are regarded as good and their point score goes up and they may be able to buy a new car and there's been a time argument a Time article about it that's makes really scary reading.

It's saying it's setting the stage for the most thorough form of surveillance the world has ever seen. This point system in China is welcomed by people.

The amazing thing is they think it's marvelous and they go around saying to people to their friends, "I've pushed my points up by 50.
How are you doing?"

that's from the reasonably short thread video, here's the Time article with a full description of the Surveillance and Point system.

#3

Posts like that put you in the same league as... everyone else who substitutes ad hominem for argument.

biblical prophecies fulfilled

More non-argument, more ad hominem.

So telling.

Yes, because as an Gnostic Atheist, you KNOW THE TRUTH!

So naturally you laugh at anything outside your self-perceived knowledge.

I mean, obviously these Oxford and Harvard Profs of Pure Mathematics and Astrophysics are intellectual pikers in comparison.

#9

Not at all... here he is at the Oxford Union in a room of mostly atheists and agnostics briefly addressing the famed Oxford Union:

#11

You fail to address the accuracy of the predictions, which you previously snickered at above.

Failing to do so, you answer a question with a question; an evasion.

How knowing the results of the next horse race could be actionable is... a nonsense question.

- You see what you want to see, not what is.

Nice self-description.

- argument from authority.

Only becomes a logical fallacy when the authority lacks expertise in that field.... see the definition.

The authorities I cited argue from their own expertise in their own fields.

#15

Amazing how people, having not watched the thread video, know the subject matter well enough to tell anyone who disagrees with their OPINIONS to F off.

I know what I say are my opinions and beliefs... you guys seem to know THE TRUTH of these matters... just like any Fundie Faux-Christian.

Fundie Atheists are nothing new, though Fundie Agnostics are... hilarious!

At least I can spell.... lol!

- something you love perceiving in yourself.

This is assigning a position aka a strawman fallacy.

My arguments here have been in response to mostly attacks for having different opinions than the majority here, rather than to arguments.

S'ok, the site owner is a Christian; actually a very Universalist Christian.

He must be a laughable lying dumbass who should go F himself, too, right?

Assigning a fact not in evidence is a straw man.... yours is an opinion, not a fact.

That's just another weak assertion, not an argument of anything... most like a non sequitur, or just another strawman.

So, yeah, I might as well be arguing with myself as you have none.

#23

Now, see? There's a spectacular Argument!

#26

Yet another common assertion... merely rhetorical.

#28

He's doing the same to this country, and to whatever other parts of the rest of the world he can manage.

In the meantime, the first part of the thread video is the creators and movers in AI pointing out that they aren't in control of AI.

And we have China taking DNA samples of their population for surveillance purposes, setting up an AI-based economic control sof their population, and exporting said control to other countries, including the US via Tic-Toc...

... as the post and Time articles in #2 documents.

#30

The number to ID the Beast, 666, matches the name of Nero:

- religious garbage

Fundie Agnostics! They Know because they Know... pretty nice werk if you can get it!

#33

Never happened.

But this is happening now:

I'm sure you'll want to 'nostic-'splain to us how DJT doesn't fit ALL these examples, which are only some of many:

Note to self:

Send JP'whipped Definitions of 'Arguments' vs 'Assertions'.

#36

'I don't doubt your sincerity.
I doubt your relevance'... and the relevance of your question.

Double evasion is still evasion.

Information of all sorts can be useful... there are actually several Christians on this site, including as I noted, the Owner, who might enjoy perusing the vid and the links.

But the info on the topics at the thread link and the comments on Chinese, soon to be US Surveillance, in post #2, are self explanatory.

Of course, you not having seen the thread link video, or even the Times links... what you might gain from me describing my take would seem to be... infinitesimal.

Perhaps you'd like to review them and give us your take rather than asking for mine first?

Then it might seem a relevant question.

It's a silly question given you are asking how something you haven't seen effects me having seen it... duh.

You assume you have information that you don't have to compare to my experience.

It's like asking how someone likes a flavor you haven't tried... there is no basis point for your comparison to their response.

So, again, it's basically just a rhetorical question... a question asked for dramatic effect rather than to elicit an answer.

You know better.

- He's definitely not the first person to be called the anti christ...

He's the only person who matches ALL of the biblical descriptions perfectly... some of which I linked for you in #34. You know, the ones you neither read nor watched.

Same to you, Sitzbath... none of those match all the descriptions.

- I'm going to assume it's not.

It's a cool video... happy now?

Although, that's not your original question at all.

- Makes me think

Apparently not... it should be obvious that if you wanted to turn the information into actionable wisdom, you would needs be actually consume the said information first.

Am I right?

I mean, what I did with it may not be what you might do with it, eh?

But hey, your dedicated obfuscations to avoid the information?

That's Entertainment!

#48

CACKLING! (Hillary-style)

The vid is actually quite well done; it starts out briefly hitting China's massive Surveillance and Control of the Population program, and their shipping it to the US via Tic Toc... then quoting Musk and other AI types on the dangers of AI.

Quickly moving to Prof Harari's book, '---- Deus; A History Tomorrow', the author of, 'Sapiens'.

(Yuval Noah Harari is an Israeli historian and philosopher. He is considered one of the world's most influential public intellectuals working today.

Born in Israel in 1976, Harari received his Ph.D. from the University of Oxford in 2002. He is currently a lecturer at the Department of History at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, and a Distinguished Research Fellow at the University of Cambridge's Centre for the Study of Existential Risk.

Harari co-founded the social impact company Sapienship, focused on education and storytelling, with his husband, Itzik Yahav.)

- What did you do because of it?

Obviously, I shared it on these Hallowed Yellow Pages for the intellectual stimulation of people, some of whom I've known for 20 years.... wait, I think I'll just go commit Hara-kiri now.

But hey, while I'm at it, if you do overcome your fear of new information, your preconceived prejudices, even momentarily, you might actually get something of your own out of the presentation.

Or not. Up to you.

- I could pick up a random dumba&& tabloid and learn "new information."

You know, I bet you are right about that... prolly YOU could do that with a comic book or a cheap romance novel!

Or, you could show us your multiple Doctorates from Oxford and or Harvard like the people in the vid have?

- more argument from authority.

Already schooled you in #16 on that particular misconception of yours:

"Only becomes a logical fallacy when the authority lacks expertise in that field.... see the definition.

The authorities I cited argue from their own expertise in their own fields."

#58

You are living in a river in Egypt... no other world leader leaders even come close to matching all those descriptions.

#60

That's a really long way around to a big, 'Nu-uh!'.

Not to mention a massive Killing the Messenger, so classic ad hominem.

But hey. if you have an actual argument to points made, I'd be happy to entertain it

Maybe buy it a drink and dinner.

#60

um... if that wasn't directed to me, my apologies.

I just had to throw my banker out of a third floor window, and was in no mood.;)