I did hear something, and I recount someone who was, privy to the room in which, you know, this idea, he's going to do this ballroom. So when they came to him, the building, the contracting team
on the engineering team, they they came, they had a meeting and they said, you know, listen, it really would be much cheaper and faster just to tear down the East Wing.

And he said ... this was given to me as a as a quote. He said, '----, but can we do the demolition at night?".

Wow. So you know, the idea would be Washington would wake up in the East wing would have evaporated."

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