Alex,

"selling fake phone and bibles to morons like you and bill."

How does someone sell a fake Bible?

Leave the pages blank?

I didn't verify every word but it appears to be all there.

Alex,

"Biden deported more people than Trump."

How do you factor that Biden let in at least 10 times more undocumented immigrants than he deported during his term?

Is there really bragging rights about Biden's deportations?

Rein,

---- off you mentally deficient -------.

Renee was already trying to pull out before the cops arrived on her but a little silver car, I think it was, cut her off and stopped her exit.

Then the cops got to her and the rest is history.

I kind of got the impression Becca may have been more aggressive than Renee from appearances.

People don't seem to be talking about this much, but the last thing Becca Good said to Renee Good was "Drive baby Drive".

I would feel like I was responsible for Renee taking her foot off the brake instead of just staying put obeying the officer.

Yav,

If federal agents had already engaged them, wouldn't calling for emergency medical services be redundant?

Red,

"Shooting innocent citizens never goes over well with the rest of society"

This was a targeted traffic stop for the 2 occupants.

Supposedly, one of them was a Venezuelan national with alleged ties to the Tren de Aragua gang.

Not sure how innocent they are.

Speak,

That immigration bill had problems.

Just because it was called "immigration bill" doesn't automatically make it a good one.

Red,

Hey...I don't work in the government.

But how I see it is this shouldn't have been allowed to go on and on until it's became a major problem for many localities.

I'm not debating the idea of deportation.

I'm just saying the people who supported open borders are partially to blame for the US implementing such a strong arm tactic as ICE.

Admit it to yourself and stop doing what liberals do...blaming other people.

During Biden (FY 2021"FY 2024)
Deported (ICE removals)

FY 2021: ~59,000 deported

FY 2022: ~72,000 deported

FY 2023: ~142,000 deported

FY 2024: ~271,000 deported

Total deported: ~544,000
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Added (net international migration)

2021"2022: added ~1.7 million

2022"2023: added ~2.3 million

2023"2024: added ~2.8 million

2024"2025 (estimate): added ~0.5 million

Total added: ~7.3 million

Gal,

"There are any number of legal, more effective and more human options in-between"

I agree with you in theory.

Realistically though, working through the courts or requiring cops to work hobbled will defeat the purpose.

I do agree with the concept of forcing undocumented people to go home.

This issue has dragged on and on without any leadership from the government.

Biden was an idiot. Plain and simple. Most Democratic leaders are idiots or dishonest lying POS.

So now we have a president doing something. I think America has moved past "talking about it".

Ideally there might be other ways but it's time to act while we still have Trump to lead American policy.

Red,

ICE is the result of lax border policies.

What's the alternative to ICE?

More lawlessness and chaos for America's streets?

Anyone who has supported open borders shouldn't complain.

They created this mess.

American,

I think I read he can't be charged by the state.

The link on #706 is worth watching.

More food for thought.

I sort of enjoy reading this site and the opinions of people I don't agree with.

But I have stuff I need to get done at home and I sit down at the computer and time gets away from me and I'm not getting stuff done.

I may be taking an extended break.

We'll see.

Alex,

"Anyone telling you different is covering for the trump administration."

I have a brain of my own, thank you very much.

Sometimes I think liberals say things like you did because so many of them have a "group think" mentality and believe everyone does.

No...conservatives really are into individual responsibility and individual thinking.

Alex,

"cars going 1-2 mph are not deadly weapons even when you walk in front of them on purpose."

Come on....

She potentially could have floored it out of anger.

She might hit him at 2 mph but she could still drive over him.

I know it's hard to accept the woman contributed to her own death.

And your hatred for ICE is generalized simply because of their mission.

But....I think she could have prevented this with a better decision.

Some people are saying she panicked. Actually, I believe that's possible. Unimportant story....When I was a young driver years ago I was sitting at a red light and a cop was right next to me stopped with me. I wasn't paying attention well enough and another light turned green and I sort of weirded out with a cop next to me and I took off right thru the red light. I realized my mistake and glanced at my mirror. The cop didn't come after me. If he had and given me a ticket, can I tell the judge I panicked? No...I'd have to pay the fine.

Her death was sad but she could have stayed on the brakes, been arrested and released that night.

Eb,

My wife got hit by a car crossing the street when she was 8 months pregnant. I saw her twirling through the air across 2 lanes.

The baby was fine. She was so far along the doctors said the baby was likely protected.

Her leg was messed up for life.

I was too stupid to get a lawyer. Where's an ambulance chaser lawyer when you need one?

Oh well...

The difference is the cop was in front of the car on purpose. She could have kept her brakes on.

Eb,

"She was in a motionless vehicle and no weapon."

Not exactly.

I watched the film frame by frame.

He was standing there most likely for the full intention of blocking her car.

The wheels had begun moving before he reached for his gun. The vehicle was the "weapon".

The speed at that moment is immaterial because a car can gain speed quickly.

At that critical moment, she allowed her car to move forward instead of staying on the brakes and turning off the engine.

At that moment the cop had no way of knowing if she would turn left or right, into him or away from him.

He was standing there for the full purpose of blocking her from moving.

She choose a decision that cost her her life.

I see his position as "defensible"...not the right thing to do or proof his life was in danger.

Simply "defensible" which will matter in court.

That's my response to you.

Respond to me if you want. Would welcome it.

Eb,

"The video tells me the shooting was not justified."

Would you explain the specific things you saw and how you interpreted what you saw to come to this conclusion?

At first I thought like you....cut and dry...the cop was wrong.

Then my opinion changed as I watched more and read more.

I think the word "justified" is a loaded, moralized word and maybe not the best word to use.

I prefer something like "reasonable" or "defensible" or "legally justified".

How about you? Why do you believe what you believe?

Zed,

"BILL JOHNSON essentially said that Ms. Good needed to be shot because she was making faces at ICE."

That's not what I said.

What I said was don't draw a target on your body and hurl rocks at law enforcement.

Someone might shoot you.

Pointing out the obvious doesn't mean I endorse the outcome.

Corky,

I've never claimed to be a saint, unlike liberals who fancy themselves self appointed moral authorities and spiritual alignment with the universe.

At least when they're high anyway.

Tdf,

Certainly his life is just as worthy as anyone else's.

His job is putting his life on the line while everyone else avoids such risk.

That being said, cops are trained to react when needed.

This woman had been provoking ICE on purpose.

That is not rational conduct. I sure wouldn't go chasing after cops provoking them lest I get a response I didn't want.

And she did.

Lee,

Kind of reminds me of Yosemite Sam telling his mule to stop.

"Whoa, mule! Whoa! When I say whoa,' I mean WHOA!"

Then clunks the mule on the head.

Too soon?

Corky,

"Poor judgement on HER part, BJ?"

Apparently your reading comprehension is nill.

"For no good reason" you said.

Did you not read my entire 6 lines or just the bottom line.

I provided what I believe may be his reason for firing at her.