Truth,

"out of your mind"

Not the first time I've heard that.

I've had a life of my own choosing and cut my own path.

God was with me every step of the way.

There are people who say believing in God is a mental illness.

Perhaps for a few, but for most believers it's nothing of the sort.

They've simply been blessed enough to open their eyes and their hearts.

Truth,

"What the actual ---- is bill talking about?"

Sorry...if you don't get it, then it probably wasn't meant for you.

Genesis 25:9 (NKJV)

"Then his sons Isaac and Ishmael buried him in the cave of Machpelah."

Jewish commentary also points to this moment.

The two brothers came together to bury their father.

Genesis Rabbah 62:5

Genesis 25:9 (NKJV),

Abraham's "sons Isaac and Ishmael buried him in the cave of Machpelah."

They came together for one united purpose.

Maybe it could happen again.

Truth,

"Ok so we are on the same page."

Then let me ask a simple question.

Should Israel be left alone?

Just yes or no.

If yes, then we are on the same page.

You see, I don't accept that this rivalry between Iran and Israel has anything to do with Palestine, as I often see claimed.

Personally, as a Christian, I believe the problem between them goes much deeper than people want to discuss.

Deflecting into whataboutism about who did what to whom doesn't even touch the real issue.

Iran is an Islamic theocracy run by Shia clerics whose ideology is strongly hostile to Israel and often expressed through antisemitic rhetoric and behavior.

This stems more from religious belief than politics.

Religious beliefs run much deeper than political views.

Truth,

"Are you asking how we control their feelings? Their WANTS? How we stop Iran and Iranians from wanting something?"

Their actions, not just what they say.

They are funding other groups with similar objectives toward Isreal.

That squarely falls in the "action" category.

Truth,

I'll try again.

What you mentioned about JCPOA sounds good, but it doesn't answer my question I asked at #5.

I'll repeat it with clearer wording.

What exactly is the solution to the fact that the Iranian regime openly wants Israel destroyed?

Truth,

"Diplomacy."

I asked you earlier,

"What actions from Iran would convince you that they are trustworthy?"

You gave an answer that I didn't see much point in responding to, at the time.

Later today I'll reread your answer and the link you posted and see if there's anything there worth responding to.

Maybe.

Truth,

"Bill do you wonder why people around here hold you in low esteem?"

No.

It's a mostly liberal site.

What else would you expect?

Truth,

"yet here you are not taking up the discussion"

Did you answer my question?

All I saw from you was deflection and you justifying Iran's intentions towards Isreal.

Johnny,

"That pretty well sums up all of Bill's posts."

Then please respond to my question since I have a "simplistic and ignorant understanding".

You have a better understanding of the issue than me.

I would appreciate an answer to my question without deflecting, like is commonly done.

What exactly is the solution to the fact Iran (politically and their religion...mixed) wants to kill Jews

Be serious. Other than removing the current regime or repeating what has been already tried and failed or reframing my question, what do you suggest be done?

In 1979, Jews living in Iran went from approximately 90K to 10K, as reported.

The 10K have tightly restricted lives and exist living invisible and under the radar. They can't use their own language.

Also, it is reported that approximately 200 to 250 thousand Iranian Jews live in Israel.

Clown,

"Iran has the largest Jewish population in the middle east outside of Israel."

The existence of a Jewish minority in Iran doesn't prove anything about the Iranian regime's hostility toward Israel.

Redial,

"That makes it easier. Destroy every building and facility in Iran, and kill everyone that lives there. Problem solved."

That's not a serious argument. It's just emotional exaggeration.

No one is talking about genocide except you.

Redial,

Or back to my original question at the top.

What exactly is the solution to the fact Iran (politically and their religion...mixed) wants to kill Jews and subsequently America.

Disregard the last three words. They are distracting from the core of the problem.

Redial,

"Iran is not capable of "killing America"."

Then leave America out of the question if it's confusing the issue.

Just focus on, what is the solution to the problem that Iran wants to eliminate Israel?

So next question.

If Iran wants Israel eliminated (which is unacceptable), what practical solution do you propose?

Would a hard line strategy like Trump's achieve it?

Truth,

Sorry...I'm tired...will take up tomorrow..

Truth,

"Maybe if we could build trust within Iran they wouldn't be chanting Death to America"

Iran has been hostile since 1979.

So your solution is to "build trust" with a regime that openly calls for Israel's destruction and funds groups attacking it.

What actions from Iran would convince you that they are trustworthy?

Redial,

"You didn't say "cause harm". You said "kill Jews and subsequently America". That's a pretty tall order."

Are you trying to reframe the conversation?

The point is their leadership openly calls for Israel's elimination and supports groups attacking it.

What is the solution to that?

Truth,

"Enter into a multi nation agreement where Iran agrees to give up its nuclear weapons program and allows for a robust inspection program in return for sanctions relief."

So are you now saying it's not propaganda?

Truth,

"Bill, do not believe the propaganda."

You explained why Iran distrusts the US.

Fine.

But you didn't answer the question.

What is the solution to a regime that openly calls for Israel's and America's destruction and funds groups attacking it?

Or are you claiming it is propaganda that Iran wants to harm Israel and America.

Is that your premise?

Redial,

"Pretty simple, they don't have the capability."

In what way?

There's certainly more than one thing Iran could do to Israel and America to cause harm.

For all the things I am reading about Trump and his "misguided" attack on Iran, for me there still remains one question that must be addressed.

What exactly is the solution to the fact Iran (politically and their religion...mixed) wants to kill Jews and subsequently America.

What is the solution to that?

How about an honest answer without deflecting to other questions.

If you don't want to tackle the question....fine...don't post some BS.

Does America position military weapons and build secure locations for military operations under hospitals, churches, schools and residential areas?

Why not put the blame where it belongs?

The people who made civilians causalities of war without regard to their safety?

Dan,

"You're of the opinion that the 2020 election was corrupted because of mail-in ballots."

I do believe the margin of error in 2020 was higher than in other elections.

Future public perception decades from now will forge its own way. Your "proof" and assumptions won't matter as much as you think.

Not finding something doesn't "prove" it doesn't exist.

There will always be a lingering suspicion that the 2020 election may have been stolen by Democrats who used ballot harvesting on a wide enough scale to win. That suspicion may never completely go away.

You brought it up.

History will see Biden as a weak president who depended on the media to prop up his image.

But enough about that.

It must bother you that history will always question whether Biden was a legitimate winner.