"What If Trump Nukes Iran?

Should the U.S. join Israel, the likeliest scenario is still for it to use its bunker-busting bombs to go after Iran's nuclear program " however, there are now conflicting reports as to whether the Trump administration is actually considering using a tactical nuke.

It was originally reported that the scenario of using nukes was not presented to Trump at all, but the White House has since pushed back on that report and stated that no option has been ruled out."

#62

The sovereign nation of Iran is a major Russian military supplier, much of which money ends up in the hands of Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Houthis.

Among other reasons...

"Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, in January: The Iran-Russia treaty showed "the desire of Moscow and Tehran for closer cooperation on security and defense."

Gregg Roman, executive director of the Middle East Forum: "Putin understands that this is Trump's Middle East. Israel is the United States' top Middle East ally and Putin is trying to walk a fine line with the United States over Ukraine."

#57

Chaff?

"Both Iran and Russia shared an ally in former Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and intervened on his behalf in the Syrian war until his eventual defeat late last year.

Iran has supplied Russia with Shahed kamikaze drones to be used on Ukrainian targets, and last year, there were reports that Russia received hundreds of Fath-360 ballistic missiles from Iran, which are known to be accurate at short range.

"Of course, Russia should be friends with Iran because, in politics and in life, everything is very simple," hawkish Russian TV personality Sergey Mardan commented after the latest Middle East crisis escalated.

"If you have an enemy and your enemy has partners and allies, his partners and allies are automatically your enemies.

"There are no illusions about this, and there can't be any. Since Israel is a key ally of the United States; ... of course, we are interested in the weakening of Israel and helping its adversaries."

"Putin pointed to statistics showing that gross domestic product is still growing " by 1.5 percent in the first four months of the year.

However, analysts have pointed out that that is due entirely to ever-higher volumes of output from the defense sector to fight the war in Ukraine. Civil sectors of the economy have slowed sharply, as the government has ended various subsidy programs over the past year, notably for residential mortgages.

The government is being squeezed harder than at any time since the invasion by the fact that global prices for crude oil, exports of which generate a third of its revenue, have slumped to their lowest in over three years as Saudi Arabia and its Gulf allies opened a battle to win back global market share from higher-cost producers in the United States and elsewhere."

more Russian economy news at the link

Anyone else notice that Vlad held off siccing Iran on Israel until his stooge Donald was in power again?

"Even before Ernst Rhm was murdered, the Nazis had begun cracking down on homosexuality, banning organizations, burning books, and arresting the first of some 100,000.

Around 15,000 gay people were sent to concentration camps, where some were experimented upon in bizarre efforts to find a "cure" for sexual orientation, a foreshadowing of American psychological and later fundamentalist efforts to try the same thing."

from the above link

Wow... Rogers with the big story; I wondered who had posted it when I saw the listing.

I just have to say that, until now I wasn't sold on offing Big K, but since Vlad is against it, odds are I'm for it. I just wish I knew that the People of Iran, who have protested their Gov as best they could under an Authoritarian Regime, would take control of the country... but there are other bad and worse players that would likely still be in charge.

= a militant homosexual

I would guess Stephen Miller... for sure. Am I close? Mao Tse Dung?

"Ernst Rhm, The Highest-Ranking Gay Nazi

Ernst Rhm, the highest-ranking gay Nazi, presents an interesting study in the construction and containment of masculinity by the right.

A man in make-up and pearls condemning transgender people may seem counterintuitive, but Milo Yiannopoulos is hardly the first gay reactionary.

The case of Ernst Rhm, the highest-ranking gay Nazi, presents an interesting study in the construction and containment of masculinity by the right.

Rhm was Hitler's right-hand man as head of the Sturmabteilung (SA, the Brownshirts), the Nazi paramilitary wing.

Instrumental in the rise of the party via the street-fighting and extra-judicial murders of the late 1920s and early 1930s, Rhm's sexual orientation was no secret after the mid-1920s. Hitler either ignored it or said it was immaterial, depending on who he was talking to, including other Nazis."

#23

That's SO obviously true!

I don' buhlieve he ever even asked Mexico; he needed immigrants as his scapegoat, his "Other" for the people to fear.

So he could win an election with less than half the votes... I mean, scapegoating blacks is SO 1950's! These days you have to make the immigrants the Evil members of society instead.

Werks like a charm, too. Well.... until you are too incompetent to make it really work as you are firing your Cabinet members and top military and defense picks.

Here's a Fun Fact:

immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than are US citizens

AI Overview
Studies consistently show that immigrants, including undocumented immigrants, are less likely to commit crimes than U.S.-born citizens.

This has been demonstrated through various research efforts, including analyses of national data and a unique dataset from Texas, the only state that tracks criminal arrests and convictions by immigration status.

Lister teaches Kryten how to lie | Red Dwarf - BBC

Trump says Gabbard and U.S. intelligence are 'wrong' about Iran's nuclear plans

"Russian mining firm puts Trump's face on its asbestos products
This article is more than 6 years old
As US officials decide against banning product, producer Uralasbest puts Trump seal of approval' on pallets"

"But today's ruling underscores a vital First Amendment principle: The government cannot abuse immigration law to punish speech it disfavors," she added.

The Department of Homeland Security did not immediately respond for comment."

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Noem may still be dizzy from all the Fascist spinning she's been doing.

"All the canceled projects centered around themes of gender and sexuality, Covid-19 and vaccines for the disease, or health disparities. Many included key words in their abstracts, like "race," "barrier," "inequity," and "minority," that were reportedly used to target projects for cuts."

"Young, a 1985 Reagan appointee, said at the hearing that he has "never seen government racial discrimination like this" in his 40-year career, calling the funding cuts "arbitrary and capricious, and unlawful" in his ruling.

"Have we no shame?" he said at the end of Monday's hearing."

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Darn these liberal Reagan Judges! Have they no respect for the True Wisdom of Dear Leader??

"These included a provision that would have placed a funding cap on the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB), which would have cut $6.4 billion from the agency by reducing its maximum funding to zero percent of the Federal Reserve's operating expenses. The funding cut would have eliminated the agency.

The creation of the CFPB was one of the central reforms of the Dodd-Frank Act that Democrats passed in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis.

She also ruled against language cutting $1.4 billion in costs by reducing the pay of Federal Reserve staff, cutting $293 million by reducing the Office of Financial Research funding and cutting $771 million by eliminating the Public Company Accounting Oversight Board."

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"Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), the ranking member on the Senate Banking Committee, applauded the parliamentarian's rulings on the issues under her committee's jurisdiction.

"These proposals are a reckless, dangerous attack on consumers and would lead to more Americans being tricked and trapped by giant financial institutions and put the stability of our entire financial system at risk," she said.

"Democrats fought back, and we will keep fighting back against this ugly bill," she said.".

Whenever I want an objective opinion on protests and riots, I ALWAYS consult the author of, "Trump Defends the Law"!

jajajaa!

SO it turns out that it was Steve Bannon at the WH today talking Trump into doing what Vlad and Russia want him to do on Iran.

Trump is such a stable genius.

#17

Just saying, which of these are the good guys... or the even marginally better guys here?

There's not. This is an argument between cousins that's been going on for 4,000 years, with a comparatively short break when Israel wasn't home.

It's Trumps War now; he started it when he killed the Iran Sanctions. Trump's just not sure what exactly Vlad wants him to do, lol.

Israel has basically become a Fascist state given it's leadership which has no qualms bombing people in order to secure their political power, and their far rwing Settlers with their religious fanatic Make Israel Great Again myths.

Iran, though, is also no prize having for literal decades now funded Hezbollah, Hamas, and Houthi bombings and atrocities in Israel.

No good guys.

The only way this ends well is if Trump really is the Antichrist. Because in that story, this country prospers for the next few years as the Abraham Accords 2.0 of Israel and her neighbors, 10 of them altogether, takes effect.

But then, and really, who else but Trump could find a way to do this:

half way through the new 7 year Accord, Trump turns on Israel and attacks them 3.5 years into the agreement.

Prolly doing it for Vlad, as usual. So, there are signposts along the way

Me, I'm watching the neighborhood hawk ---- with the ducks and squirrels down by the pond from the comfort of my condo. Which, come to think of it... is kinda like posting here!

"Gestapo Go Home!' - Homie

Donald will now be F'n with sports teams again, jaja. Threatening to show up at games and totally ruin the vibe.

ICE is grabbing people off the streets that are not now and never have been criminals of any sort. And their children.

Kudos to the Dodgers for being more American than our Fascist Traitor President.

. upwards of 60% seeking the procedure are on the spectrum.

Is indeed a major consideration. Believing what one feels over what their rational senses tell them is basically gnosticism.

Visitor is a compassionate Granny.

- He served with our military.

That doesn't seem to mean as much now in Pete's Army.

#43

Yep... had Trump built the Wall (with Mexico's money) he wouldn't have been able to run on FEARMONGERING about immigrants. Which is likely why he never intended to build it.

It's sorta like if Trump had NOT torn up the Iranian Nuclear agreement, we wouldn't have to be helping Israel destroy Iran... s'pecially since Vlad isn't amused, and Lil Donnie dreads making him unhappy.

Here's somebody talking to Keggers:

"Sen. Elissa Slotkin (D-Mich.) denounced Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth's lack of "guts and balls" during a hearing Tuesday when he refused to say whether he'd given orders to the military to shoot at unarmed protesters.

The heated exchange one of several during Hegseth's series of hearings before the Senate Armed Services Committee kicked off when Hegseth apparently laughed at Slotkin's inquiry about whether he'd given such orders."