"It would be possible to print to PDF and make all the ballots you wanted I suspect."

And each of those ballots would have the same unique serial number, and the same hidden watermark in the .pdf.

Any match gets investigated. You realize that, don't you?

"Maybe not completely non taxable. But I bet with great deductions which makes it more profitable than before. Apparently."

About the only thing in their favor is "no tax on tips", but that a) doesn't apply to the owners, b) doesn't exempt anyone from payroll taxes, and c) doesn't apply on the state level.

The only reason the business is "currently more profitable" is they're not paying the required taxes. Frankly, they're getting horrible tax advice, and it's just going to cost them more in the long run.

That said, they're right: businesses would be more profitable if they didn't have to pay taxes. Duh.

" the ballot I downloaded."

Two quick questions:

What state allows downloaded ballots?

Was your name and other info pre-printed?

"It's crooked as hell."

Based on evidence you have, or based on a talking point you decided to regurgitate?

"as it turns out that restaurant is now making more money than when it was operating "for profit" This proves IT CAN BE DONE."

Only until the tax folks catch up to them. Did you read the part where they're trying to avoid paying taxes this way???

Anyone who believes this "method" of income isn't taxable is deluding himself.

" Obamacare, for example."

It barely passed.

M4A, which I was in favor of, would have been soundly defeated.

Why?

In addition to all those martialed against the ACA, the opposition would've added every single worker in a higher income bracket with better healthcare, telling them they'd be subject to a lesser health plan than they currently have ... which, sadly, was true.

" What the rich people do, tell if this is right"

Frankly, I've never understood it. That person has to have some type of taxable income at some point, even if it's just money to pay back the loan.

Interest, wages, capital gains ... all taxable at a rich person's level ...

I'm clearly missing something.

" Dividend income isn't taxed, I didn't know that."

Oh, it is, if/once it's added to other income, like wages or pensions, much like Social Security.

But the trust fund baby, getting $55,000 a year in Abbott labs dividends and no other income, pays zero federal taxes.

"They know what to write."

Exactly. The architects even admitted as much: they were out to hurt Unions, blue cities, and blue states ... especially Unions in blue cities in blue states!

They also (cynically) assumed that Democrats, when not getting a tax deduction, would stop donating to their favorite liberal causes. Meanwhile, Republicans would continue to tithe to their Church whether they got a deduction or not.

"The trust fund baby getting $55,000 in Wal-Mart dividends pays ZERO in federal taxes."

To be fair, they have to deal with an outsized amount of paper cuts when opening those dividend checks.

It's brutal.

" I only paid 15% on my long term capital gains last year. I paid a closer to 20% on my labor gains."

There's the problem right there.

The trust fund baby getting $55,000 in Wal-Mart dividends pays ZERO in federal taxes.

Meanwhile , the janitor who profits $55,000 from sweat of the brow labor owes over $10,000 in federal taxes.

This is a tax code written by people who don't know how to write tax codes.

" Danforth, wasn't it called "Naional Health Care" or something like that?"

No. M4A got taken out of the options early on in ACA planning.

" It got replaced by Obamacare."

Incorrect. Before the ACA it was the Wild West. The decade before the ACA, inflation was 31% over the ten years. Medical inflation, however, was up 131%, more than four times as much.

The year before O'Care started, my bride's best friend had just beaten breast cancer, and her husband had to leave his corporate job (and good health insurance) to take care of her. The only health insurance they could find was in a high risk pool ... $5000 a month, when the normal going rate was $500 a month.

One of the real reasons for the ACA was the baby boomers were about to be herded into high-risk pools, due to a relatively new low bar: pre-existing conditions.

" ... should we kick those out of treatment too?"

Of course not.

We should educate them. And maybe pass some laws protecting their health, like they've done with several items on your list.

Your "answer" is to double down on the stupidity.

" If they took it raw in the turd-cutter"

Whoa, dude.

I was in the arts for over 40 years, and am getting a pair of pensions from that career. No surprise, a high percentage of my co-workers were gay. No big deal.

But I've never met ANYONE, ever, who- every single thing- reminded them of gay sex.

You can't seem to go three posts.

Anything you'd like to share with the class???

" He's also arguing with a guy who kept his family safe through that whole debacle and never took that schhty shot."

You won one roll of the dice, dumfuq.

One other roll, and everyone in your family would be dead.

That's a bad bet, especially considering the odds.

" Medicare for all failed by one vote under Obama."

Link, please.

I believe you're confused. Repealing Obamacare failed by one vote (McCain's famous "thumbs down" while looking at Mitch McConnell).

But when, specifically, was there a vote on Medicare for all?!?

"It seems like we both have North Korea on the mind."

We're warriors for freedom, by golly!

"Historians widely agree that the party adopted the term in the 1920s as a populist marketing tactic"

Translation: Just to fool the idiots.

"People who think Nazis were/are socialists are properly pointed and laughed at."

Wha?!?

Does that mean Saddam's Republican Guard weren't Republicans?

And The Democratic People's Republic of Korea isn't a Democracy?!?

What's next? Are you gonna tell me The Party of Responsibility never accepts Responsibility???

"Bernie and Dennis Kucinich"

Name two politicians Democrats have NEVER listened to.
~Carnac The Magnificent

"Bill is gone."

For the moment.

FFS, he's "left forever" more times than Goatman.

Laura

A few days ago, BillJohnson was reminded he once said to you the two of you wouldn't be meeting in the afterlife, because he was going to someplace different than you.

When confronted, he claimed he never said it. Or if he did, it must have been because you were attacking him ... As if that's any excuse at all.

But ... Maybe my recollection is wrong. Do you recall him saying it?

" The cost of the land is only a small percentage of the issue for building in CA. My home is 70% of the price, 30% is the land."

That depends on where you are. In SF, LA, SD, and SJ, it's not unusual for the land to be worth more than the building on it.

Especially important in rental properties, since land is not depreciable.

"New report finds that the economy performs better under Democratic presidential administrations"

No schitttt, Sherlock. We've witnessed it throughout our entire lifetimes: when Democrats hold the White House, the overall economy benefits. When Republicans hold the White House, certain individual sectors perform better, like oil, military, and banking.

" A date? Not even carrol has a date of the incident."

Heck, I can't tell you what exact year I had my heart attack.

Does that mean I never had it? Because that'll be news to my cardiologist.

That's LITERALLY your "logic".