-There is a lot of anger and frustration at the VA I go to for care.

Been hearing that for 30 years.

-That's from September 2024.

Point taken but the larger point is to win elections.

Why on earth did veterans support him that much ever?

And he still has 51%.

And what will the GOP nominee have from this group come next election?

60%? More?

Why can't democrats get this group to go their way?

"But it has no where near a global reach like the wrecking ball elected into office by dips*&^ Americans."

LOL

"I'm not responding to your idiotic nonsense again."

Promise? I would hope you mean it after this exchange.

Good gravy ... ..it's not like I expect fanatics like this to be coherent or rational. Mostly I see it as a plea for attention. Zed is the poster child for that. However, I'm surprised at how devoid of attention some of you truly are.

To sum up ... ..fanatics like Zed and JPW don't really care about the poor. They just just can't stand people who deny them what they they're entitled to.

They are perpetually victimized by everyone who denied them what they wanted.

But I think you're lying, JPW.

-Are you really struggling with this this much?

I'm saying it plain and clear.

Perhaps you're just struggling with reading it coherently.

"For reach of consequences? Absolutely."

OMG. We can stop right there. You've jumped into a sphere of absolute absurdity that even Zed is scared of you.

-The biggest reason people are poor is because they were born poor.

finally, some sanity

"America really hasn't progressed beyond the early 90s. Our cities and towns have stagnated"

I live near Wichita, KS and that city along with many larger cities have re-vitalized some previously horrible parts of town and made them decent places to live, dine, shop, etc. These were horrible parts of town. In the early to mid-2000s moves were made to gut old and unused buildings and turn them into nice condos and apartments. We've seen tremendous improvement in that space.

Now, that's just a general "FWIW" from my perspective. In other perspectives perhaps cities and towns have stagnated...certainly with the problems of homeless, mental illness, infrastructure, public schools, etc.......continued massive challenges.

-What other destructive habit would have that far reached consequences?

drugs
having out of control and unprotected sex with multiple people
dropping out of school
drinking and driving
etc....

But you place "voting for Trump" ahead of those choices. got it.

Do you have kids? please tell me this isn't how you've attempted to guide them in their lives.

You're teaching them voting for a republican is the "most destructive habit with far reaching consequences" above those other choices they could make?

Jesus....you're a bigger fanatic that Zed. I merely placed you as the side kick holding his beer while he yells at the refs. ----, you're worse.

-Second, it has nothing to do with poor or not poor.

That is one thing you got right.

It's got nothing to do with poor or not poor....it's 100% about who they voted for.

Their plight (healthcare in this instance) is irrelevant to you.

LOL!!!!!

"Remember when magat scum lied about bidens fema response on NC after a hurricane?"

Yes, and the horrible wildfires in California.

But most of America has moved on......and there were zero political consequences faced by anyone of substance.

That's what is going to happen here as well.

"something as foolish as voting for a conman for POTUS"

let's be honest....that's the only self-destructive act you care about.

-At some point, you stop caring when people are self-destructive, especially when that self-destructive behavior starts to harm you and loved ones.

thank you for making my point.

Do you even realize that's exactly what I said originally and you attempted to refute by calling it stretch?

Then you come full circle and basically repeat it.

"You stop caring when people are self-destructive"

really? just a few posts ago you argued with "choosing to be poor"....then you manage to post that.

LOL

actually I mispoke....it was a democratic party congress.

But I don't believe it was their intent that companies be allowed to deduct millions upon millions in executive compensation in "performance pay" even though that's what it did.

"Most people don't get paid in stock. Most people don't have large stock holdings that can make up for wages."

I don't disagree with campaign finance realities but below (to your point) is where this disparity started to really take off.

Paul Penner, a Kansas farmer, told The Times he is losing patience with Kansas' GOP representatives for not doing more to tell the public about the damage to his state's economy from the Trump administration: "We need people who are willing to speak up. I think privately they say things, but publicly, no. And I'm not sure what their pain threshold is."

It sucks. I agree with Mr. Penner. They should be willing to openly criticize these policies.

-You're making a lame point

That you're taking personal. Why deflect to what the Trump administration stands for. I voted against it just like you did.

The difference between you and me is the sympathy and empathy we each have for the poor.

Mine exists. It's real.

Your's is fake like Zed's.

-I hope you warmed up before that stretch.

LOL....not much needed to reach for my coffee.

-You're just trying to play some nonsensical gotcha game

it's nonsensical when it's true? Call it whatever you want....but it's true.

You don't care about poor people...they just need to vote the way you want.

Poor people in Chicago? smart folks...we should help them

Poor people in rural Texas? ---- them...they deserve what they get.

Zed's a fanatic...if you want to stand next to him and hold his beer while he cheers.....your choice.

-Not so much poor as fanatic.

Exactly. You've never cared about poor people. You only care about their politics.

It's their politics that are the problem. Not their decisions to drop out of high school, get pregnant, drug problems, criminal justice system, etc.

Those are the problems going on your community, Zed. Those are the problems that directly affect your taxes, access to services, home value, etc...all of it.

But what do you focus on? Who you think they voted for president last November.

Jesus ------- Christ....YOU are the fanatic, Zed.

Not them.

YOU.

I believe poor people do make some poor decisions and it's unavoidable.

But some here believe some poor people suddenly get smart on election day.....and some don't.

LOL

It appears the left does indeed believe that poor folks choose to be poor.

"They voted for this"

"don't realize it"

-Rural? Magat scum country.

Honesty. I'll give twoothy that.

-Rule of Law is DEAD in this country and the Courts won't save us.

Neither will another country. Other countries had to invade Germany costing them millions of lives and $$$.

Who's going to save us from ourselves?

-After SHRIMP and BELLRINGER.

Will you?

-Want to jump back in with an explanation of WTF you've done for your country?

Pay my taxes
Stay out of trouble
Pay my bills
Take care of my family
Donate time, talent, and treasure
Hold no hatred or any disgust towards anyone

Make your list, Zed.

How many crystal balls did you look into to come to that realization?