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amazing you admit to such a thing.

"You'd be surprised, perhaps, that unemployment benefits in California are ---- compared to every other state I've gotten unemployment in."

How many states have you received unemployment benefits from?

I'm starting to imagine you as Joe Dirt, Snoofy.

"you're saying it's above your pay grade to know..."

actually, it's massively below my pay grade to know such things.

I'll let experts on receiving social services be exactly your pay grade, little fella.

You're experienced in it.........

I think Danforth makes a reasonable point about the additional costs that render no real benefit and recipients are being asked to do more.

Admittingly, I don't know where to draw the line.

Snoofy wants everything to be delivered to their door(which is also being given to them for free).

Presumably the health care itself.......at their door. Anything else is an "additional barrier".

That's where he draws the line.....gee, I wonder why States don't listen to that advice?

"you don't get a car on Medicaid."

maybe they should. wait...nevermind.....can't guarantee they can get a drivers license....

"It's an additional barrier."

I guess anything is an additional barrier if it takes time.

going to the actual doctor to receive medical services
going to the grocery store
getting gas
buying clothes
tattoo parlor
hair salon
liquor store
pawn shop
movie theatre
etc.....

-So if you had to show up at the Medicaid office twice a year, would that be a burden, over not having to do that now?

currently, I show up at my actual office around 200 times a year.

It's likely I could add 2 visits somewhere in addition.

-I'm pretty sure you know what Speaks meant exactly.

Yes, especially when I called him a liar.

I'm sorry....when I said "enclaves on this planet", I clearly meant Florida

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somewhere upthread I saw someone object to the comparison of homosexuality to pedophilia.

I almost pointed out that there are enclaves on this planet where homosexuality is considered WAY worse than pedophilia.

-Do you believe, in the big picture, an additional barrier will be an additional barrier?

I don't think it's fair for me to determine what's a reasonable request for medicaid recipients to fufill in order to receive health benefits.

I work a full time job and pay a portion of the premiums to qualify for my health benefits.

What should a medicaid recipient be required to do?

I don't know really.....you gotta draw the line somewhere but I don't know where.

-Also: How will that be proven,

If the state is comfortable with this they could use a form that the recipient of the volunteer's time would sign detailing the work performed and how many hours.

This is what Catholic schools do to verify service hours each student is required to perform each year.

Does that seem easy to falsify?

-Republicans use religion to gain votes that empower them to enact fascism

okay....moving along now.....politicians use religion to win elections (and that equals fascism..whatever floats your boat...fine)

You're telling me how it's done and by whom.......but you're obviously leaving out some of the "who".

Who else is guilty of using religion to enact fascism?

"you don't see it in "---- Your Feelings."
You don't see it in "Better Red Than Democrat."
You don't see it in "America First."
You didn't see it when Hitler quoted Mussolini in 2016.
And you still can't see it when reminded that Hitler quoted Mussolini in 2025."

That's all fine, little fella. I agree with all of it.

But I don't think that's what speak meant exactly.

It's possible he's starting to come around as to where I'm headed with this......

So let's sum this up.....when I asked how people use religion for hatred and fascism....you all come back with "Trump, Hitler, etc..." Huge political and military figures who can easily be accused of using religion for hatred and fascism. The occasional celebrity and religious leader is included in these efforts as well.

Is that about right?

Is that what Speak means when he says "we hate people who use religion for hatred and fascism"?

People like Trump who does what he does so he can invoke all the hatred and fascism possible?

That's who speak hates?

Come on......let's be honest here. The list isn't that short.

Give us your entire list........

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for votes. What does stumping for votes have to do with hatred and fascism?

republicans for many years have courted the religious right. What does that have to do with hatred and fascism?

democrats court minorities, labor unions and young people. I don't see that as hatred or fascism.

-It is pure hatred and ignorance with absolutely zero respect for law or human dignity.

If they were arresting employers right along with these folks, would it still be pure hatred and ignorance?

maybe take the first video out...it's in January....Had Trump even been sworn in when that video was shot?

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selling bibles?

how does a person use religion for hatred and fascism?

If you're pointing to Trump then just point to Trump for being a hateful fascist.

what does the bible have to do it? or shamelessly selling one.

-Like the truth?

more like speculation......

"Let's just say...."

YOU can say whatever you want.

Thank you for the responses.......that's how I would answer my question as well.

But I am going to wait for Speak to respond because I believe he has a different angle on this.

"But none of these scenarios accuse Trump of killing Epstein, which he obviously did"

-Zed

"We hate people who use religion for hatred and fascism."

How does a person use religion for hatred and fascism? This should be good......

"Eb doesn't seem aware that the alligator aushwitz is not a federal facility
It's a state facility allowing ice to disown the illegalities happening there"

You're right. I wasn't aware of that.

good point