True believers of libertarianism take the stance that this will get able bodied people off their butts and back to work where they belong.

And I have no trouble believing any anecdotal evidence of this actually happening being promoted throughout conservative media.

But I doubt it moves the needle in the big picture.

How many of Joe Biden's SS agents were with Trump that day?

"The commie agitator"

AAhh...more civility from the civility police.

-Only because it was a Blue State.

I thought it was because the O&G industry was funding this. You could move this to a red state and have the same argument.

-the GOP accepting bribe money from oil lobbyists

And you don't think there were any lobbyists involved when this idea was hatched in NM?

-New York is this way because they have NYC.

And apparently, they don't want to fund free child care.

those greedy rich people in NYC......LOL

"....influencing them to denigrate the renewables industry. And also to influence them to lie about the effects of fissile fuels on global climate change."

It's about where they spend it......not that they actually accept the money?

-It's not "faux rage"

LOL

#37 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-03 11:24 AM | Reply | Flag: Expert identifier of Civility

-The "rage" over the oil lobbyists unequal access influence and power over members of Congress is not fake and is fully justified.

Great but that doesn't refute my point. I wasn't pointing to the generality of "members of Congress". I was more specific.

That's the first decent thing you've written in this entire thread.

Posted by Alexandrite

we're still waiting on yours.

-Again, point to where I said gas and oil was evil,

oil and gas or the revenue from oil and gas?

. "And watching you, Zed and Snoofy defend O&G is the trifecta win."

I'm positive the oil and gas executives are getting a chuckle out of it.

You know this is what the industry expects in return for this. Lighten up on the rhetoric and damnation some and we'll pay for your child care.

-There is no "hatred" for oil and gas from the average lefty.

This is true.

However, there is an abundance of faux outrage when that industry writes checks to members of the GOP.

He is a coward.
#40 | Posted by Alexandrite

Donner? Where are you? You're the civility police....you need to issue poor alex a citation for his violation.

I watched CBS Sunday morning yesterday and there was a segment on child care and how expensive it is. Maybe I missed it but I don't believe this action in NM was included in the segment.

My wife stayed home for the vast majority of the time for our 3 kids at home.....and she can make some money as a contract OT.

It was a big sacrifice financially for us. We lived in less home, drove less expensive cars, etc. We made it work.....my income has always been decent.

I'm glad we weren't stuck with the issue of very expensive child care costs today these young couples face.

-Is he that scary to you?

If he wants to avoid me then why is he talking about me?

that's how dumb he is....or how big of a liar he is.

-Eberly takes potshots at me that he knows I can't see unless someone copies and pastes it.

that's why I posted it. I was daring someone to repost it.

or catch you in the lie that you have me plonked.

either way it's for my enjoyment. It's not like you'll contribute anything here. Just drama.

-There it is. That wonderful display of civility.

Fair point. Civility is counted on from me and I should show it.

Can we agree that the environment doesn't care if the oil and gas industry funds a worthy cause such as child care and that pollution is pollution?

Regardless....this is why folks can convince Joe 6 pack there is no difference between the 2 parties.

they both take money from the oil and gas industry. One side might use the money for better and worthy causes.....but they still rely on the industry.

I'm not making that argument...but you can see why it's an easy piece of propaganda to use.

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more like a ----- shoved up your hole a little further.

Which I hope you're enjoying.

-OTOH, they're using the devil juice to fund it

That's correct. It's kind of similar to the tobacco industry. We tax the sale of their products to the point where it's a necessary source of revenue.

As of 2023, we collect $38 billion in tax revenue from tobacco.

-Did you catch the part where they're using tax revenue from oil and gas?

doubtful.

Zed's chastising you for praising the effort. just can't please some folks.

-This "work ethic" stuff is literally what EVERY generation says about the younger generation and it goes back THOUSANDS of years.

You're right. Not sure how far it goes back....centuries at least, but you're right.

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which would explain why this hasn't gotten much attention?

-We could start with soybeans, if you want.

I would imagine this has been posted already but in case it hasn't.....