Comedy central as always.

You elected the man that can't be parodied. Drumpass is impossible to parody. Impossible.
The man that no one would write a screen play about a presidency like this because no sane person would believe it.

You did that. Yay for you.

I supposed you're all good with lifting all the sanctions on Russia? Rhetorical. We all know you are ecstatic.
I bet you're even happier about all aid to Ukraine being suspended.

Today, midnight - Drumpass imposes tariffs on Canada and Mexico, setting in motion the utter destruction of the US automobile industry.
Do you know how?
I kid. I know you have no clue.

Anyone that says Kamala is dumb is an idiot.

At least we could say we weren't Russian, or China, or North Korea.
{sigh}

#18 - Oh that is going to really piss off Lockheed, Raytheon, General Dynamics, Northrop Grumman, Harris, Boeing, just to name just a few!

#36 THAT! Right on, Danni!

You don't offer that as an option? do you know why is that?

Bellringer - your #310/#311 - some of your sentiments I agree with. Some I understand but disagree with. You do not have the facts correct, however, as Gal clearly documented. I also knew what Gal posted before she posted it.

You offer the only choices that support your determined outcome. That is a logical fallacy - that you are either generating to rationalize your willingness to sell Ukraine out, or you are doing it to manipulate others to your POV. Perhaps it is both. Perhaps you actually believe it.

It is, however, not factual.

Putin could end this tomorrow by pulling out of the sovereign nation of Ukraine.
You don't offer that as an option, do you. Why is that?
Why is this all on Ukraine to submit, to capitulate - all without a single promise (worthless as Trump's word is) to stand up for Ukraine?
Let's be honest: Trump wants Ukraine to fall.
He wants retribution. His word, for the "Russia hoax" and making him and his buddy Putin suffer.
He made that perfectly clear in this meeting. Crystal clear. There was and is no ambiguity on that.

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Sphincter says what?

""America will not put up with it for much longer," Trump wrote."

Fcck Trump. Trump's proven he's an enemy of the United States.

They reacted. Not an ambush.

VANCE PROVOKED. It's not the first time, either. This is the way they work together. You want futher proof? Marjorie Taylor Greenes boy friend launched into that ridiculous attack on Zelenskyyu not wearing a suit! It was a pile on that embarassed everyone but MAGA morons in that room - including Rubio who was absolutely deflated.

Zelenskyy was clearly agitated from nearly the beginning.

That's your opinion. I see a man doing all he can to listen, understand, and drive home the point that Putin has iled about every agreement and can't be trusted. I see a man looking out for the people of Ukraine.

From what I observed he wants much more than what is being offered.

Trump offered nothing. Trump made that clear when a reporter asked about Russia keeping their word and he blew up and launched into insanity about "what if a bomb dropped on your head!" Geezus Trump was an embarrassment. A horrible embarrassment.

His body language said it all. It got testy when he got real condescending with Vance, almost expecting to intimidate Junior, when instead of capitulating Vance fired back that is when things spiraled. I didn't see it as planned - it seemed spontaneous. From what I observed Trump and Vance were both surprised by Zelenskyy's snark and then it went downhill.

This is where you lost all credibility. All.

Zelenskyy clearly wanted an escalation of help from the US in terms of security guarantees. I don't blame him. I'd want that too if I was in his position The problem is he has no leverage. While I would never expect him to grovel, he eventually bit the hand that has been feeding him and he set his own country back as a result, IMO

Back to having absolutely no credibility. You want him to not to grovel, but that was the demand. Accept nothing and give us your minerals, and we'll ask Putin, but "a bomb might drop on your heads" anyway.

Fcck Trump, Fcck Vance, Fcck any MAGA supporting Trump in this hideous embarrassing attempt to exploit an ally in such dire need.

Honestly what youv'e shown of yourself in this is unappealing to say the least.

Rubio was devastated in that clip. Especially when Trump went off the rails of "russia russia russia" "hoax" nonsense. Rubio knew Trump was off his rocker. Rubio, after all, wrote all about it.

You are insane.
Completely.

Yeah he lied. Again.

That is perfect, Gal!

Aw. So now it's up to Norway to find others to fill in that gap. Good thing the U.S. is part of NATO!

Hey Jeff -
Did you see what the Norwegians saw when they watched the "Trump/Vance/Marjorie Taylor Greene's boyfriend, Brian" ambush and backstabbing of Zelenskyy? Or did you see something entirely different? The world, even Russia all saw it. The only difference is our Allies and those in the Free world were horrified, and Russia was ecstatic.

Have you stopped to ask yourself why that's the case?

"And her bike"

She handles riding in sand really well. I think this is the largest displacement bike she's ridden in any of her videos?
This is a 1987 Tenere 600cc.
(from her instagram account)

Very nice catch.
Yes. Sisu is specifically Finnish, but who knows "mot"?
Plus "sisu" is a perfect a word in this context, I think?

Sisu.
I am proud of Norway.

You people are so far gone. Ang even have a rational discussion. The US has been carrying the load in Ukraine. How much has Europe done in their own backyard.

Europe has more invested in Ukraine, has given more money to the war in Ukraine than the United States. FACT.
Europe has dealt with the brunt of the refugees from Ukraine, not the United States.
Europe has dealt with Putin cutting off gas supplies for their actions supporting Ukraine.
You are absolutely insane to even try to position Europe as less than the United States in this effort.

You are such a hypocrite and a partisan douchebag. Seriously. You are gone. A waste. There is no rational discussion to be had with you when you say such utter nonsense as you have. And you got called on it and now you're telling everyone else that they are the deluded and irrational.

That isn't them or us - it is YOU.

Their intent is to make it cost effective to produce that widget in America, So they it stimulates job growth here.

LMAO! No, that's not the intent. We can't make widgets "cost effectively" here. That's why the free hand of capitalism had us make them over there. The intent of tariffs is to drive the cost up on imports so we can compete with them if companies decide to try and complete at the new import priced widget. In other words, the prices go up for everyone to the new import priced widget. Even if they're manufactured here.

Spelling it out a bit more, what happens in practice is we raise the price of goods manufactured here to match those on the imports. The tariffs raised the prices, and maybe manufacturing shifts to the U.S. Maybe. In 2018, though, the U.S. manufacturers were still Samsung and LG. Prices stayed high, and never came back to the prices before the tariff. Samsung and LG made more money with the manufactured in the U.S. products - and the consumer lost big time.

none of you give a ------ about those soldier's lives or families..

You think you know what Ukraine wants? YOU?
YOU think the US should decide their destiny by selling them out to Putin?
And you idiotically think that Putin will stop there, don't you?
Or do you not care?

What I hear from you is you want the USSR back and you're willing to do anything to make it happen.

And take your own advice: do some actual research.
Don't just regurgitate what your right-wing MAGA brain dead talking points are, ferchrissakes.

Why do you love Putin so much?
So much that you'd sell out another nation to Putin for "peace."
What kind of "peace" would that be?
Are you crazy enough to think that Putin would stop there?
Putin's been explicit in his goal.

Are you one of those "better Red than dead" people?
Do you think the Ukrainians that lived under the USSR want to go back and live under KGB Putin?

As for your attempted blame shifting, what are you saying? That Biden should have just sold Ukraine out to Russia right away? That Biden should have excalated to full out war, joined in? If so, what are you proposing The Orange Quisling do?

You're as big a thinker as that OneNut character.
That last post of its was a new level of shallow non-thought.