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Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Saturday, March 01, 2025

They Have to Fight Putin Without the US. The Oval Office blow up between Zelenskiy and Trump laid bare for many Europeans that something critical has broken in their relationship with Washington. European leaders are confronting their worst-case scenario: maybe they really are going to be dealing with a bellicose Russia alone. When the US lined up alongside Russia and North Korea earlier this week to oppose a UN motion condemning Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine, some European officials knew that the transatlantic relationship was in deep trouble. Then they watched in horror as Donald Trump gave Volodymyr Zelenskiy a public dressing down in the Oval Office and something broke.

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If I were Europe I'd start kicking out American military bases if I were them. We don't deserve their help anymore.

#1 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-03-01 11:54 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

If I were Europe I'd start kicking out American military bases

Those bases probably generate a lot of income. DOGE Lord Commander Elon might close them anyway.

#2 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-03-01 12:32 PM | Reply


Those bases probably generate a lot of income.
#2 | POSTED BY REDIAL

Lot of VAT.


maybe they really are going to be dealing with a bellicose Russia alone.

Why weren't they dealing with this before? Were they relying upon US tax money to fund their welfare state?
Lumpers love comparing Europe social welfare to the US "lack of" social welfare.
The US was "subsidizing" Europes social programs by taking up their slack on military spending.
Ironically Lumpers hate spending money on the US Military.
Lumpers now see, hopefully, that Europe having to spend money on their Military will degrade the social welfare.

It all comes full circle, which it eventually would when US government spending it out of control. The first thing that suffers is external spending/activities.

But lets get somethings out, feel free to add if you think I am missing something.
Three facts.
1 - The territory that Russia has taken is not going to be returned. It's gone, could be wittle down with negotiation.
2 - Ukraine is downsizing their own military manpower by continuing to fight a war they cannot win
3 - Ukraine will never join NATO
4 - Ukraine military capability currently is better than anything in Europe.

There are three possible outcomes
1 - Ukraine continues to fight a losing war, ending up with their defeat, and either it's complete annexation, or the installation of a puppet
2 - Ukraine gets other nations to involve themselves in this war, leading to a World War III
3 - Ukraine and Russia agree to a ceasefire, and peace negotiations. Ukraine accepts that the territory they have lost is not going to be returned. A buffer zone of sorts is created, similar to what we have between North and South Korea. Access to the Black Sea negotiated. This area will be maintained by European nations, with no American boots on the ground.

Which of these do Lumpers prefer, because this is a war that Ukraine cannot win.
Time to prepare for the next war.

#3 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-03-01 01:37 PM | Reply

I might add ...

Nothing is, or ever has stopped Europe from offering Zelensky the military, or "security guarantees" he wants.

Commit them Europe, quit whining.

#4 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-03-01 01:50 PM | Reply

Lot of VAT.

Well that's different from income.

#5 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-03-01 02:07 PM | Reply

- I might add ...

You might, but it's never happened yet. As usual you subtract from the collective IQ around here with your relentless blather.

Trump prefers the Civilian-targeting, baby-killing Bald Dwarf who has funded him for decades and helped him win two elections, to the patriotic Ukrainian President defending his country... who refused to help Trump manufacture Dirt on Biden, which helped get Trump Impeached.

That's what this Ambush in the WH is about, dimwit.

Zelenskyy would have been the FOOL had he accepted Vlad and Trump's word that Russian would not break a Cease Fire... just as the did in 2014.

You, otoh, are a Chinese Chamberlain bot, kowtowing to Putin's Hitler-esque threats to all of Europe.

And btw, Russia is a smaller economy and GDP than is Canada... and Vlad is not the suicide by nuke type...they are only important in the minds of feebs like you and Trump because bullies frighten you.

#6 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-01 03:26 PM | Reply

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