"Still, the optics of tearing up an $800M contract can't be good.

#129 | POSTED BY TWINPAC AT 2025-02-03 11:30 PM | FLAG: "

The optics aren't great, obviously, but the results for the constituents are what really matter. If Starlink is capable of providing noticeably improved service and Premier Ford tore it up simply out of spite.....

Don't you ever tire of being a 1-trick pony?

Oh great. Legallygiveshead has shown up to elevate the discussion to a new intellectual level.

Alexandrite,

It's good to see you cracking some funnies.

You are getting into pedantics and that is fine.

But you are also not seeing the forest through the trees.

This wasn't a program that was legislated. It was created out of whole cloth by the Biden administration.

With a stroke of a pen, this administration deemed approximately 500,000 people suddenly eligible to enter, bypassing normal entry requirements, to just arrive here and immediately receive benefits.

Do we have any kind of transparency regarding the vetting process for these folks?

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"There was no big super secret coverup or anything like it."

I follow the news very closely. I saw very little reporting on this from mainstream sources and it was only after independent sources reported on it and cried foul. Then the mainstream sources acted as advocates for this administration.

This is yet another subset of an issue where Democrats have been way out of lock-step with the rest of the country.

Funny.

Alexandrite,

Yav is trying to gaslight. Hopefully that helps.

"Says the man that never saw any of it.

#60 | POSTED BY YAV AT 2025-02-03 11:01 PM | REPLY | FLAG:"

You are right. I don't live on the Rio Grande. But, amazingly we have this little thing called news media, internet, etc. And those people who are actually living it are able to show what is happening in real time.

Further, we have a tracking system for raw numbers.

And even further, we can put 2 + 2 together. We are capable of watching all of the changes Biden made to border enforcement and see the results.

The border is a significant reason why your party lost the election. Even with all of the assistance from the MSM to parrot administration lies the rhetorical incentive, the resultant numbers and what we've been able to observe....have fun continuing to try and desperately polish that turd.

What in the hell are you even talking about? You did no such thing.
You are being a hack and I have seen you capable of being better.
Good night and sleep well.

"" Donald got the beejezzus frightened out of him by the plunging stock market he's created."

He probably shorted it right before announcing tariffs.

#125 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2025-02-03 09:50 PM | FLAG: "

It's possible. Pelosi's portfolio grew 54% last year. It's amazing how government workers manage to crush ROE compared to hedge fund managers.

"The story of "illegal immigration" and massive lies about it and the migrants being cast as criminals, and the fear porn worked. Congrats on using people to ---- on so you can lie your way into power.

#51 | POSTED BY YAV AT 2025-02-03 09:43 PM | FLAG: |"

Oh, Come on! Most of the media tried to underplay and simp for the Biden administration on this. It was all well and good when border towns with minimal resources were forced to just deal with it. But then, when a couple of Southern state governors started transporting just a fraction of these illegal aliens up to "sanctuary cities" and those mayors (and governors of those states) cried foul because despite having WAY more resources than border towns to handle such an influx they were quickly overwhelmed and kicked up a bunch of dust over it. The numbers were staggering and it was orchestrated. Please, quit spinning. Quit trying to be a historical revisionist. And for God's sake, quit trying to condescend to people who watched this all unfold and try and gaslight that they didn't witness what they actually saw.

" Border crossings were down under Biden before Trump took office" - Yav

When the starting point is record high, fully sanctioned and encouraged illegal crossings and then 6 months before an election steps are taken to temporarily curb it because it polls horribly ... ..Yav, you strike me as an intelligent person. This incredible weak sauce. Illegal crossings under Biden shattered all time records throughout the entirety of his administration.

It's like an arsonist fireman - set the fire, let it burn causing tremendous damage and then swoop in last second, put it out and claim hero status.

Come on, dude. Illegal immigration is one of the primary reasons your party lost this election. Please, understand that and move forward on this.

" You mean from the US to stop all firearms being shipped to Mexico?

#39 | POSTED BY YAV AT 2025-02-03 07:30 PM | REPLY | FLAG"

I addressed this on the Mexico thread. I can reprint here, if you'd like. But you'd have to say: Pretty please with sugar on top.

" like BullBringer who post nothing but conspiracy theories and bullshht.

He's a waste of time.

#34 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2025-02-03 06:10 PM | FLAG: "

Says the guy who claims the SS staged a killing and a bullet to Trump's ear all at Trump's behest for a photo opp.

You probably think 9/11 was an inside job and that W had levees blown up during Katrina to harm a bigger number of minorities.

#35. I already did, on 2 different threads. Go to those threads and you will find your answer.

So, the stated goal is increased border security. Mexico agrees to send 10,000 troops to the border to tighten it down on their end. Win.

Mexico wants to crack down on guns entering the country from their northern border and we agree to tighten it up. Win.

Both side got something they wanted. Win/ win.

I'd call that a successful negotiation by all parties. Zed sees it as an abject failure because Trump.

Also, Zed is incapable of considering the possibility that Trump doesn't actually want a tariff war with Mexico or Canada.

Admittedly, the concession from Mexico is a much bigger deal. This is very little action on Canada's part.

All I said is it looks like Canada is backing down. They are at least taking a modicum of action and we avoided a tariff war with Canada in the process.

I've been reading the damned news.

I know what happened. I summarized what happened as it's been widely reported.

To call it a success or failure is opinion, not news. To me, it looks like success as he got what he wanted by using a big stick and in the process it looks like we likely will not have a quid pro quo tariff war with Mexico. Win/win.

How do you view that as a failure? Because Donald?

Zed,

Looks like it just happened.

" Later in the day, Trump put a pause on Canadian tariffs after an apparently productive call with Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, who said Canada would appoint a czar to combat fentanyl trafficking and would ensure permanent monitoring of the U.S.-Canadian border, Reuters reported"

" Donald got what Biden had and gave more to Mexico than Biden did."

How do you figure? Break it down, please.

It looks like Canada is backing down.

I actually like Van Hollen but he's wrong about this.

USAID was created by EO, just like DOGE. As a result an agency created by EO can be dissolved by EO. Elections have consequences.

Let me get this straight, Zed.

One of Trump's main campaign priorities was securing the border.

So, he sets up a tariff against Mexico and the Mexican president capitulates and promises to immediately send 10,000 troops to patrol the border. Which is a tangible step toward improving border security which is a big priority for this administration and that's a failure?

Make it make sense.

What is your prediction?

Prediction?

Yeah, prediction.

Pain.