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Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Sunday, February 02, 2025

A day after signing steep new tariffs on Mexico, Canada and China, President Donald Trump acknowledged what economists, members of Congress and even some of his own aides -- in their previous lives -- have been saying all along: Americans may find themselves paying the costs.

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"THIS WILL BE THE GOLDEN AGE OF AMERICA! WILL THERE BE SOME PAIN? YES, MAYBE (AND MAYBE NOT!)," Trump posted, in all capital letters, on his Truth Social platform.

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Thanks, Trumpers!

(I just can't thank you all enough!)

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2025-02-02 11:47 AM | Reply

So.. the price of eggs groceries and gas are definitely NOT coming down. Not until we feel the "pain"?

Gee ... Thanks for nothing.

#2 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-02-02 12:03 PM | Reply

What do you know, A second Biden administration after all.

Absolutely nothing.

#3 | Posted by fresno500 at 2025-02-02 12:22 PM | Reply

A second Biden administration after all.

Planes weren't crashing left and right under Biden.

#4 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-02-02 12:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

... Americans may find themselves paying the costs. ...

Nearly everyone besides the MAGA folk have understood that all along.


#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-02 12:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Inflation came way down under Biden.
These tariffs are going to drive prices up.
Deporting immigrants is going to drive prices up.
Trump used grocery prices to get elected, saying he'd fix everything.
He lied.
Now he's finally saying what anyone with a brain always knew.
Americans are going to pay the price. Bigly.

Does this mean he's doing away with his plans for the idiotically named and conceived "External Revenue Service" (ERS) to "collect tariffs" from other nations? (Let that utter stupidity sink in...)

#6 | Posted by YAV at 2025-02-02 12:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

Now he's finally saying what anyone with a brain always knew.

Promises made, promises broken.

#7 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-02-02 12:43 PM | Reply

IDIOT'S GUIDE TO TRUMP'S TARIFFS

US President Donald Trump keeps talking about the "billions and trillions of dollars" that countries such as China will be paying his government in tariffs he imposes. In this monologue, Post managing editor for content, Yonden Lhatoo, explains why it does not work like that at all.

www.youtube.com

3 mins from China... where the Red MAGA hats are made.

#8 | Posted by Corky at 2025-02-02 01:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

HOW BOUT THOSE EGG PRICES!!

#9 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-02-02 03:07 PM | Reply

Trump is an idiot.

#10 | Posted by madscientist at 2025-02-02 03:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

MadSci is still on top of things!

#11 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-02-02 03:36 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

Always Wrong': White House Rages At Wall Street Journal For Op-Ed Criticizing Trump's Tariffs On Canada And Mexico
www.mediaite.com

... President Donald Trump's White House released a statement raging at the Wall Street Journal for slamming the tariffs newly-placed on Canada and Mexico.

On Saturday, Trump fired off his first tariffs against Mexico and Canada with a 25% border tax. Meanwhile, China received a 10% tariff on all energy products along with an additional 10% on all imports from China.

The Wall Street Journal Editorial Board penned an article calling the tariffs "the dumbest trade war in history" while slamming the president for the "economic assault on the neighbors."

"None of this is supposed to happen under the U.S.-Mexico-Canada trade agreement that Mr. Trump negotiated and signed in his first term," the board wrote. "The U.S. willingness to ignore its treaty obligations, even with friends, won't make other countries eager to do deals. Maybe Mr. Trump will claim victory and pull back if he wins some token concessions. But if a North American trade war persists, it will qualify as one of the dumbest in history." ...


#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-02 03:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

POSTED BY MADSCIENTIST

Oh shht!

Look who the cat dragged in.

Sup Mad!

:)

#13 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-02-02 03:51 PM | Reply

I set the over/under on how long King Dotard II blames Diamond Joe for anything, from a loud fart to the impending cancellation of SS checks at four years ...

#14 | Posted by catdog at 2025-02-02 03:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

As to Old Orange Julius's financial acumen, understandings, and behaviors please consider the following: of the six businesses he drove into Chapter 11 bankruptcy three were ... wait for it ... yuuuge gambling dens where the house cannot lose (until Mr. Stable Genius showed up). This mook has no idea what he's doing, other than grifting and thieving,

#15 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-02-02 04:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

MAD! Yes!
Good to see you!

#16 | Posted by YAV at 2025-02-02 04:12 PM | Reply

Trump Orders Tariffs on Trade Partners
www.dtnpf.com

... Rep. Angie Craig, D-Minn., ranking member of the House Agriculture Committee, criticized the tariffs for potentially driving up costs for a range of imported products.

"No one wins in a trade war. The last time President Trump started a trade war, costs went up for America's family farmers and consumers," Craig said. "The same will happen today. The cost of imported goods like oil, lumber, avocados, tomatoes, bell peppers, lettuce, broccoli, cucumbers, onions and mushrooms and other fresh food are likely to go up for Americans. At a time when farmers are struggling with high input costs and the American people continue to struggle with the cost of groceries, these tariffs will make it more expensive for farmers to grow food and for consumers to buy it. Additionally, when American farmers face the inevitable retaliatory tariffs from our trading partners, their profits take a hit. This action is especially questionable since President Trump's previous administration negotiated our last trade agreement -- USMCA -- with Canada and Mexico."

Michigan Department of Agriculture and Rural Development (MDARD) Director Tim Boring said he had "extensive conversations with farmers and other stakeholders" who raised concerns about tariffs.

"While there are still a lot of unknowns, it's important to remember two things: Canada and Mexico are our biggest export destinations, and the last time this happened, retaliatory tariffs specifically targeted agriculture," Boring said.

Mark McHague, president of the Nebraska Farm Bureau, noted his state's reliance on exports, which accounts for roughly one-third of farmers' income. Nebraska's exports to the top five agricultural products accounted for over $3.5 billion in 2024. Those sales helped support the largest segment of Nebraska's economy, which hit a rough patch in 2024, falling 17% as compared to 2023, he noted.

"Today's announced tariffs on Canada, Mexico and China, some of Nebraska agriculture's most important trading partners, only adds to the economic uncertainty which remains the top concern at dinner tables on farms and ranches across our state and nation," McHague said.

McHague also pointed out that U.S. farmers rely on Canada for 80% of the potash fertilizer used, as well as imported crop-protection tools and energy. ...


#17 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-02 04:18 PM | Reply

All those red state farmers, when you go belly up, stay the ---- out of California this time. You weren't welcome in the 1930s, you aren't welcome now.

#18 | Posted by dibblda at 2025-02-02 04:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Obviously, (1) these tariffs are the dumbest move in history and (2) we all know Trump isn't banging on all 8 cylinders.

So, my question is, who is going to blink first?

#19 | Posted by Twinpac at 2025-02-02 04:38 PM | Reply

All those red state farmers, when you go belly up, stay the ---- out of California this time.

#18 | Posted by dibblda

Donald is going to give them all direct welfare payments to compensate for the failure of his economic aggression, just as he did last time.

#20 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-02 04:43 PM | Reply

So, my question is, who is going to blink first?

#19 | Posted by Twinpac

No one is going to blink at all.

1) If the Mexicans and Canadians roll over on this they may as well surrender to Donald permanently. The Chinese, of course, are just laughing their asses off.

2) Donald's pride won't allow him to back down from something like this. He's going to ride this stupid flaming pile of ---- right into the ground.

#21 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-02 04:46 PM | Reply

Welcome to the MAGA Age of Stupid.

In their stupid world, each MAGA is king.

#22 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-02 04:48 PM | Reply

Ummm well at least he acknowledged they will cause pain

But ummm why do them? Had he explained that yet?

#23 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-02-02 04:49 PM | Reply

Back down how? Wtf is the idiot trying to achieve?

#24 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-02-02 04:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"2) Donald's pride won't allow him to back down from something like this. He's going to ride this stupid flaming pile of ---- right into the ground."

Also the US repeatedly rips up treaties that we signed. Who will do business with us in the future?

#25 | Posted by dibblda at 2025-02-02 04:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I can see the MAGA hordes now, fighting each other over the last Mexican avocado to get their share of guacamole for the Super Bowl.

As for hamburger? Get used to it, MAGA. If you want protein apart from peanut butter then fry up some of your ignorant home-schooled MAGA babies. It looks like your ban on abortion was good for something after all.

#26 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-02 04:53 PM | Reply

So is Trump admitting he lied? Or is he admitting he's ignorant about such things? Or are MAGA supporters just stupid, and willing to swallow anything he says?

#27 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2025-02-02 04:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Or are MAGA supporters just stupid, and willing to swallow anything he says?

#27 | Posted by Whatsleft

They believed Donald when he said that the tariffs would bring unbridled American prosperity.

Now that it won't they're going to be fine with it.

They have cerebral fluid where their brains ought to be.

#28 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-02 04:59 PM | Reply

As for hamburger? Get used to it, MAGA. If you want protein apart from peanut butter then fry up some of your ignorant home-schooled MAGA babies. It looks like your ban on abortion was good for something after all.

#26 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2

Soylent Green is rape babies!

#29 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-02-02 05:03 PM | Reply

Obviously, (1) these tariffs are the dumbest move in history and (2) we all know Trump isn't banging on all 8 cylinders.
- twinpac.

Idk reviewing how it affects China, it's not a bad move.

See a company from my homeland, can ship into US if under $800.00 no charge, even copyrighted material. On the cheap. Amazon is doing this.

But for a US company to import into US and inventory, and sell. There's a 20% markup in paperwork and labor, regulations.

Seems reasonable to lock this down.

Trump gave Mexico and Canada options, why wouldn't a country and it's allies want to crack down on fentanyl?

Hate to be here, but isn't saving 100,000 lives worth the extra cost of bacon?

#30 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-02 05:06 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Smoot Hawley 2.0. It screwed us then. It will screw us now. Did nobody learn anything from Ferris Bueller's day off??

#31 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-02-02 05:12 PM | Reply

Hate to be here, but isn't saving 100,000 lives worth the extra cost of bacon?

Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-02 05:06 PM | Reply

That's not what's going to save lives nimrod. People will continue to die from drug trafficking as long as people continue to do drugs. Just sayin

#32 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-02-02 05:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Hate to be here, but isn't saving 100,000 lives worth the extra cost of bacon?

Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-02 05:06 PM | Reply

What will be the effect on drug use by higher prices, higher inflation and higher unemployment?

Do you have a brain?

#33 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-02-02 05:30 PM | Reply

America has been given a long overdue gift. A gift from all of the people around the world it has used, abused and threatened- injured and maimed for the past 180+ years. A gift from the Native American indigenous tribes, the Mexicans, the Cubans, the Palestinians, Koreans, Vietnamese, Iraqis, Afghans, Syrians, Panamanians, Libyans, Guatemalans, Nicaraguans, Chileans, Iranians, Somalians, Yemenis, Sudanese, Angolans, Lebanese, Cambodians, Haitians, Paraguayans... The gift is a mirror. A special mirror to reflect the stark moral ugliness and ideological brutality of what America now (and perhaps forever) represents. A mirror angled inwards in such a manner as to inflict some of the intense pain and suffering that for so long America has inflicted upon so many other peoples of the world.

The mirror is Donald J. Trump.

#34 | Posted by ExpectingReign at 2025-02-02 05:33 PM | Reply


What will be the effect on drug use by higher prices, higher inflation and higher unemployment?
Do you have a brain?
#33 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

What will the affect on drug use be if you do nothing? 100,000 dead which would you prefer?

Do you have any heart?

Because clearly you don't have a brain.

Your theatrics aside, reading about tariffs an interesting problem. Immediately a product you might use will increase. Then US companies will invest in creating a domestic competitor and employ people to make it. Creating jobs, an as competition increases, hopefully lower prices.

That is the point of tariffs.

The US has a tariff on light duty trucks (25%) known as the chicken tax, this tariff employs millions of citizens. In fact it was the only profitable vehicle category in the big 3 carline up. It brought Japanese manufactures INTO the US and Mexico.

Incredible, where its the unemployment from that tariff, truthlies?

Here;s an interesting link describing what I was mentioning in my previous post.
threadreaderapp.com

#35 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-02 05:42 PM | Reply


That's not what's going to save lives nimrod. People will continue to die from drug trafficking as long as people continue to do drugs. Just sayin
#32 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR

It will save lives of people dying of fentanyl,

Limiting the supply most certainly will lower the number of people dying due to Fentanyl.
usafacts.org

How is doing nothing like San Francisco going?

Lumpers only have name calling and gross misinformation, and mischaracterizations.

#36 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-02 05:45 PM | Reply

Here's another thought about who is going to blink first.

U.S border states from Washington to New England import a large percentage their electricity from Canadian grids.

I wonder what would happen if Canada's P.M. hit THAT toggle switch and those border states experienced black or brown outs for a long period of time.

Upsetting the balance of trading electricity between Canada and the U.S. is already being considered by our northern neighbor.

#37 | Posted by Twinpac at 2025-02-02 05:47 PM | Reply


Smoot Hawley 2.0. It screwed us then. It will screw us now. Did nobody learn anything from Ferris Bueller's day off??
#31 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR

How is Smoot Hawley different than what Trump has implemented?

If you can't describe the difference, then you clearly don't know what you're taking about.

#38 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-02 05:47 PM | Reply


I wonder what would happen if Canada's P.M. hit THAT toggle switch and those border states experienced black or brown outs for a long period of time.

The US would shut off Canadian oil that runs through the US via pipeline.
x.com

You guys lack even a basic intelligent response to what Trump is doing.

#39 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-02 05:49 PM | Reply

Just a reminder that the US Mexico and Canada had been operating under a trade agreement signed by ... (checks notes) ... -------

#40 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-02-02 05:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

IAMRUNT backed the------------- as he killed 1.2 million Americans.

#41 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-02-02 05:56 PM | Reply

There's a lot of talk about new tariffs into US, but what about existing duties charged by other countries against US goods? Why is that info so hard to find now? I was able to find it before, at least for China. Today, no matter how specifically it's phrased, google only returns the same 'Trump tariff' articles.

#42 | Posted by bootyhunter at 2025-02-02 06:05 PM | Reply

#35 | Posted by oneironaut

You don't understand how a. drugs work, b. tariffs work and c. capitalism works.

When in the past 50 years has America been able to stop or slow the importation of drugs?

Here is the impact of tariffs in the real world:

1. Price on imported goods increase
2. Price of domestic good that is equivalent increases because supply of said good increases.
3. Since we are mostly talking raw product and/or parts there is no equivalent capacity or ability of domestic industries to match imports. Where are the trees and mills that will make up for the lost imports? Where are the farms that suddenly will grow fruits and vegetables that do not grow in our climate? Where in our country is the type of crude oil we import? How is transportation of oil and gas to the areas that need it (Northeast and north west) factored in?
4. Domestic corporations in similar industries to those impacted by importation WILL increase their prices, cause they can
5. Retaliatory tariffs will cause our industries/farmers to not be able to sell their crop. They grew a crop for export, that crop is not needed here. Those farmers will need to be bailed out.

These are simple commonly known concepts of tariffs, EVEN ------- has finally admitted it.

To what purpose?

Fentanyl will NOT stop flowing into America.

Here is a basic fact-supply and demand. If there is a demand a supply will find a way.

And again, what will be the impact on drug use/abuse by higher prices, lower buying power and higher unemployment?

Hint, drug use/abuse will skyrocket, like it did the last time ------- was in office and ------ up the covid response.

I really am tired of stupid people

You have been informed and educated. Be a better person.

Truth Hurts

#43 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-02-02 06:10 PM | Reply

I'll also point out the 'retaliatory tariff' non sequitur- that is, according to TDS logic, 'tariffs only hurt Americans', so would the retaliatory tariffs only hurt the citizens of the countries imposing them?

"Oh, you hurt yourself! Now I'm going to hurt myself to get back at you!"
"How d'ya like that, lil' Donnie?"

#44 | Posted by bootyhunter at 2025-02-02 06:11 PM | Reply

here's a lot of talk about new tariffs into US, but what about existing duties charged by other countries against US goods? Why is that info so hard to find now? I was able to find it before, at least for China. Today, no matter how specifically it's phrased, google only returns the same 'Trump tariff' articles.

#42 | Posted by bootyhunter

ummm who is the CEO of google? Now see the relationship of that person with Trump.

#45 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-02-02 06:12 PM | Reply

Really we should have never allowed duty-free access to ANYONE, because NO ONE allows duty-free access to us.
I expect the architects of this system did it as a corrupt action for personal gain of some sort.

#46 | Posted by bootyhunter at 2025-02-02 06:15 PM | Reply

'Here is a basic fact-supply and demand. If there is a demand a supply will find a way.'

Which is EXACTLY why gun laws don't work.

#47 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2025-02-02 06:16 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Which is EXACTLY why gun laws don't work.

#47 | Posted by gracieamazed

Funny how they work fine in other countries.

#48 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-02-02 06:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump promised is that foreign nations would be paying the tariffs, not Americans. Was he lying? He's never been known to lie to us before.

#49 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-02-02 06:50 PM | Reply

According to the shills American tariffs will only hurt American citizens and thanks to the powers of shill magic, tariffs from other countries will also only hurt American citizens.

#50 | Posted by bootyhunter at 2025-02-02 06:52 PM | Reply

According to the shills American tariffs will only hurt American citizens and thanks to the powers of shill magic, tariffs from other countries will also only hurt American citizens.

#50 | Posted by bootyhunter

PSST

Tariffs will hurt people of both countries.

#51 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-02-02 06:54 PM | Reply

Amid Trump Tariffs, Farm Bankruptcies And Suicides Rise
www.forbes.com
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Daddysfist approves.

#52 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-02-02 06:55 PM | Reply

1Nut, most unsurprisingly, missed the part where 80 percent of drugs coming into this country illegally are brought in by US Citizens, not immigrants.

Also, Canada will be targeting Red States, they say.

'
And Mad Scientist strikes again!

#53 | Posted by Corky at 2025-02-02 07:07 PM | Reply

Trump uses blackmail (tariffs) as a tool. Any clue as to what concessions he wants from Canada and Mexico.

#54 | Posted by Twinpac at 2025-02-02 07:49 PM | Reply

@#19 ... we all know Trump isn't banging on all 8 cylinders. ...

I remain to be convinced that "we all know that."



#55 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-02 08:05 PM | Reply

@#20 ... Donald is going to give them all direct welfare payments to compensate for the failure of his economic aggression, just as he did last time. ...

Yup.

From the #17 article ...

... In 2018-19, Trump's trade disputes with China led to $23 billion in aid payments to farmers under the Market Facilitation Program. ...

#56 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-02 08:07 PM | Reply

1Nut, most unsurprisingly, missed the part where 80 percent of drugs coming into this country illegally are brought in by US Citizens, not immigrants.
- CoryDaIdiot

That's because it's a myth. The stat is from PoE. Why do you imagine they use US citizens at PoE?

Why would a US citizen NOT use a PoE.

Corkythebigot slurps up statistics that match her bigotry with considering why that stat exists.

#57 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-02 08:14 PM | Reply

Tariffs will hurt people of both countries.
#51 | Posted by truthhurts

Depends upon the tariff, and how long it's implemented.

Also is the tariff on a monopoly of a resource.

It's blanket statements like this that put TruthNLies at the bottom of the intellects here on the drudge.

#58 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-02 08:17 PM | Reply

@#53 ... where 80 percent of drugs coming into this country illegally are brought in by US Citizens, not immigrants. ...

That got me curious.

Here's what I found ...

American citizens smuggle more fentanyl into the US than migrants, data show (August 2024)
www.kpbs.org

... At a recent campaign stop in the swing state of Pennsylvania, Republican vice presidential candidate JD Vance talked about the efficacy of border walls.

"Look, no one has ever said a wall keeps out 100% of illegal aliens," Vance told a cheering crowd. "But if it keeps out 98%, I'd say we're doing pretty good. And that means less fentanyl, less drugs, and less crime coming into our communities."

The idea that more border walls and tougher enforcement on illegal immigration will stop illegal drugs from flowing into the United States has long been a political talking point. But it's become a dominant election-year theme since Donald Trump's ascendance nearly a decade ago.

And not just at the national level. In February, Republican San Diego County Supervisor Jim Desmond posted a video on social media saying that one of the things that concerns him about, "how people are just able to walk across the border and get here," is fentanyl. The implication is that migrants crossing in remote parts of the border are bringing drugs with them.

But data from U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and other federal agencies show the vast majority of fentanyl comes through legal ports of entry. And the people bringing it into the country are native born Americans.

Approximately 80% of people prosecuted and convicted of federal drug trafficking offenses were U.S. citizens, according to Tara McGrath, U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of California.

"They are people who have the ability to cross but also are going to be able to slip under the radar," McGrath said. ....


#59 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-02 08:19 PM | Reply

Your post literally makes no sense.

"Also is the tariff on a monopoly of a resource."

Like serious, are you drunk? or high? This makes no sense.

I reiterate. I am tired of stupid people.

#60 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-02-02 08:19 PM | Reply

It's fake ----- MAGAts like IAMRUNT who are responsible for dead American farmers.

www.forbes.com

#61 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-02-02 08:20 PM | Reply

@#54 ... Trump uses blackmail (tariffs) as a tool. ...

Yup. But for what end?

... Any clue as to what concessions he wants from Canada and Mexico. ...

I don't. And I suspect that Pres Trump does not either.

But when he gains some simple concession from Canada and/or Mexico, it will be blasted all over the right-wing media as a stunning, awe-inspiring success.

In the short term.

As the Countries who have been our friends for decades may now be looking at us as an unreliable trade partner.

Again, from the article in #17 ...

...This action is especially questionable since President Trump's previous administration negotiated our last trade agreement -- USMCA -- with Canada and Mexico." ...




#62 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-02 08:29 PM | Reply

previous administration negotiated our last trade agreement -- USMCA --

Must be why "YMCA" is his extremely gay anthem. He thinks it's the same thing.

#63 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-02-02 08:33 PM | Reply

@#61 ... ----- ...

I do not think that such a racial slur is appropriate.


#64 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-02 08:34 PM | Reply

I do not think that such a racial slur is appropriate.

No. It's "DEI" now.

#65 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-02-02 08:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1


"US Citizens Were 80 Percent of Crossers with Fentanyl at Ports of Entry from 2019 to 2024. Generated with ElevenLabs AI technology. Many people wrongly believe that immigration is critical to the illicit supply of fentanyl in the United States."

Aug 8, 2024

www.cato.org

"Offender and Offense Characteristics4
82.8% of fentanyl trafficking offenders were men.
41.0% were Hispanic, 37.4% were Black, 19.9% were White, and
1.7% were Other races.
Their average age was 34 years.
86.2% were United States citizens
more

www.ussc.gov

Most Sentenced for Trafficking Fentanyl are U.S. Citizens

www.kff.org

OF all the dumbasses we have around here, 1Nut Trumps all of them.

#66 | Posted by Corky at 2025-02-02 08:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So they send the country into recession to shut off the Fentenyl supply from Mexico. There are plenty of other ways to get it into the country, ever heard of shipping containers? Addicts will find a way to get their fix, maybe they'll go back to heroin, or worse, they'll move onto designer drugs like the synthetic opioid Krokodil. You recall Krokodil the flesh eating or flesh rotting drug? Addicts will ALWAYS find a way to get high.

Shutting down the availability of the drug has never worked to slow or stop addiction. What's necessary is education and treatment. At least we know what Fentenyl does and how to reverse overdoses. I've only been to one overdose death in the past couple of years, but I've deployed Narcan at least six times. In some of those instances people at the scene had already given one dose of Narcan. Also, because Fentenyl is so cheap, we've noticed a drop in big property crimes like burglary, instead minor property crimes like shoplifting have increased. Thats a good trade.

This is just Dotard trying to swing his tiny mushroom around. Less that one percent of Fentenyl and undocumented immigrants enter through Canada, so why are they sanctioning Canada? I think it's because of the way Sweatshop Barbie undressed Trudeau with her eyes the first time they met.

#67 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2025-02-02 10:01 PM | Reply

No one is going to use the undocumented to carry drugs across the border. That's beyond stupid.

#68 | Posted by YAV at 2025-02-02 10:38 PM | Reply

So, as it is primarily Americans smuggling it in, how is that stuff crossing the US border? Sounds like it is the responsibility of US Customs who does all the cross-border inspections? It isn't the responsibility of Canada or Mexico. Who is currently in charge of US Customs and Border Patrol? Can't they properly inspect our ports of entry if they are in charge?

#69 | Posted by dibblda at 2025-02-02 10:48 PM | Reply

No one is going to use the undocumented to carry drugs across the border. That's beyond stupid.

Posted by YAV at 2025-02-02 10:38 PM | Reply

They have to blame anything and everything for their xenophobia dontcha know??

#70 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-02-02 10:50 PM | Reply

@#69 ... So, as it is primarily Americans smuggling it in, how is that stuff crossing the US border? ...

Looks that way.

.. Sounds like it is the responsibility of US Customs who does all the cross-border inspections? ...

Yeah, but ... (you had to know there would be a "but" ...)

The drug carriers vs the CBP is a continuing challenge.

When one path is closed down, another path emerges.

CBP needs to constantly react to the changing tactics of those who bring the drugs across the borders.


Taking a different approach, why is there such a demand for that drug in the US?

Maybe helping those who seem to need it to stop needing it may reduce the influx of the drug?


Unfortunately, Pres Trump seems to prefer to make a lot of noise about attacking the symptom, while doing nothing to resolve the actual cause of those symptoms.



#71 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-02 11:00 PM | Reply

Not the responsibility of Canada or Mexico to stop anything from leaving their country, it is the responsibility of the US to stop it from entering. The US government is the problem.

#72 | Posted by dibblda at 2025-02-02 11:47 PM | Reply

The wealthy won't feel it in any significant way.

#73 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-02-03 06:49 AM | Reply

Remember when Bushturd2 told us in a calm sincere voice that his "War on Terriers"... specifically the already subdued secular Iraq... was going to be a "long hard slog" and we Uhmurikins were going to need to be patient? The cl0wn brigade cheered... yayyyyyyy. .25 century later... here we are again. At least Turddeux had the grace to curtail his golf addiction for the haul... such sacrifices did he make... after all that... the Arabs own our oil refineries.

Why is it republicl0wns promise unparalleled prosperity
and deliver the need for OUR austerity

Remember how mad they got when Jimmy Carter did that?

Bawling about deficits, profits, taxes from you, me, and the gran's GDP.
Who deserves what and why WE must wait and see.

No worries they'll let us know...after they hide it... somewhere else.

So let's pick some fights on foreign soil
and say it's about freedom when WE kinda mean oil.

exit stage left

Why do billionaires without borders demand border wars from the rest of us?

#74 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-02-03 08:02 AM | Reply

For decades the economy has functioned around short term thinking.

Short term benefits with long term consequences.

Trumps tariffs theoretically will have the opposite effect.

Long term term benefits with short term consequences.

That approach to problem solving doesn't help you get reelected.

He will likely not be in office when the long term benefits begin to take effect and whomever is in office will take all the credit.

Let's hope Trump's ideas work and the short term "pain" isn't too bad.

#75 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-02-03 08:08 AM | Reply

For decades the economy has functioned around short term thinking.

Short term benefits with long term consequences.

Trumps tariffs theoretically will have the opposite effect.

Long term term benefits with short term consequences.

That approach to problem solving doesn't help you get reelected.

He will likely not be in office when the long term benefits begin to take effect and whomever is in office will take all the credit.

Let's hope Trump's ideas work and the short term "pain" isn't too bad.

Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-02-03 08:08 AM | Reply

God you're just a blooming Dummkopf. I swear. Is there anything that you won't genuflect Trump for BillJohnson?? Seriously??

#76 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-02-03 08:10 AM | Reply

Laura,

How about instead of insults you actually say what you disagreed with?

#77 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-02-03 08:29 AM | Reply

" Trumps tariffs theoretically will have the opposite effect."

Based on who's theory of ... what?!?

Answer this, just to see if you have a basic grasp of reality ... Who pays tariffs, the exporter or the importer? China, or America?

#78 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-02-03 08:49 AM | Reply

Tarriffs cause the dollar to appreciate. So addicts will be able to get more bang for the buck. It won't curtail drug use, tariffs will increase drug use.

#79 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-02-03 09:09 AM | Reply

Trump gave Mexico and Canada options, why wouldn't a country and it's allies want to crack down on fentanyl?

Have you even bothered to look into these claims?

The amount of fentanyl coming from Canada is miniscule. Something like 43lbs have been stopped at the border. Compare that to the tens of thousands from Mexico and who knows how much from China.

You're an idiot and a fool if you think that cover story is remotely the reason for the tariffs to be enacted.

#80 | Posted by jpw at 2025-02-03 09:16 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

You're an idiot and a fool

#80 | POSTED BY JPW

He will never admit that.

#81 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-03 09:32 AM | Reply

Trumps existence already causes pain.

#82 | Posted by bat4255 at 2025-02-03 10:06 AM | Reply

I just heard this

Trump convinced people making 25 dollars an hour that people who made 7 dollars an hour were the problem. Ain't that some crappola??

#83 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-02-03 10:15 AM | Reply

Hate to be here, but isn't saving 100,000 lives worth the extra cost of bacon?
#30 | Posted by oneiqirony at 2025-02-02 05:06 PM

My God, you really are that dumb, if you think tariffs will positively affect the number of American drug addicts

#84 | Posted by e1g1 at 2025-02-03 10:17 AM | Reply

What he's actually saying is that big tax cuts for billionaires will cause pain for average Americans and both he and Musk don't give a crap. They won't feel any pain and that's all either one of them care about.

#85 | Posted by danni at 2025-02-03 10:40 AM | Reply

I positively think it will affect drug addicts.

For every action there is an equal an opposite reaction. Science!

And with Trumpy apparently the poorer they are the more pain they need to feel.

And the more pain they feel the more drugs they will take to counter it.

That will teach them to be poor in America.

I swear America is turning into a dystopian version of Blade Runner. Or maybe this is the prequel to Mad Max.

#86 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-02-03 10:43 AM | Reply

It's a risky move but Trump is trying do something about the trade deficit and bring more manufacturing back to the US.

There are other objectives with these tariffs that would benefit the US and American workers.

We should hope it works instead of hoping Trump fails.

However, people who don't want to work and want to sponge off of everyone else might not see the benefits or even care.

#87 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-02-03 11:34 AM | Reply

I want you to get everything you voted for, Bill. In all its glory.

#88 | Posted by YAV at 2025-02-03 11:44 AM | Reply

It's a risky move but Trump is trying do something about the trade deficit and bring more manufacturing back to the US.

There are other objectives with these tariffs that would benefit the US and American workers.

We should hope it works instead of hoping Trump fails.

However, people who don't want to work and want to sponge off of everyone else might not see the benefits or even care.

Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-02-03 11:34 AM | Reply

HAHAHAHA You're hopeless BillJohnson. Seriously. From what I have read about this. It's Smoot Hawley on steroids. And we know how that turned out don't we?? Didn't you learn anything from Ferris Beuller's day off??

#89 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-02-03 11:47 AM | Reply

not from Mexico....who has reached an agreement with Trump

sp....ffvk you a-wholes....

#90 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-02-03 11:54 AM | Reply

"It's a risky move but Trump ... "

Risky for you. Risky for me. Risky for all Americans. Except not risky for Trumpy. He won't lose a damn dime. In fact he is milking billions from America right now. He can't run again. So what if he screws up America for decades? Wont hurt him one bit. He will just take the money and run. Have you even begun to think of what will happen after his term is over?

But you maga maroons voted for this and are now gleefully cheering him on while he has his billionaires gut America and strap it to the roof of their car to dump in Central Park.

#91 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-02-03 12:12 PM | Reply

not from Mexico....who has reached an agreement with Trump

sp....ffvk you a-wholes....

Posted by shrimptacodan a

and I know it's gonna really piss you jerk hoffs because anything good for America is BAD for yo pukes.

don't know why.....maybe you're worried about a fall off in your drug sales ??

and don't worry....there's still plenty of you kids for you to groom...

#92 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-02-03 12:15 PM | Reply

not from Mexico....who has reached an agreement with Trump

#90 | Posted by shrimptacodan

I'm so glad that you brought this up----

1) Mexico never wanted a trade war. No one anywhere wanted a trade war except Donald.

2) Donald could have got what he got from Mexico without pissing off that entire country and scaring the pocketbooks of 400 million people, there and here.

3) And most importantly----

YOU'RE TOO STUPID TO SEE THAT DONALD FINALLY PISSED HIMSELF OVER HIS IMPENDING ECONOMIC CALAMITY AND BACKED DOWN.

#93 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-03 12:15 PM | Reply

90 | Posted by shrimptacodan

It's not just that Donald and MAGA are stupid. it's that your stupidity is arrogant, mean, silly, and self-harming.
r
You people are too stupid to see or realize....Well, anything. You get real-life outcomes accordingly. And, because you are arrogant and oh-so stupid, you crow about them.

Like a flock of demented chickens. Without egg-laying capabilities.

#94 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-03 12:19 PM | Reply

sp....ffvk you a-wholes....

#90 | Posted by shrimptacodan

When you're finally through effing yourselves perhaps we'll take a turn.

#95 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-03 12:21 PM | Reply

Mexico caved and Canada will soon, but you loons on the left will still go ape ---- understand, you live in a miserable state, not your fault.

#96 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-02-03 12:30 PM | Reply

The------------- caved and declared victory. What a demented ---------.

#97 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-02-03 12:32 PM | Reply

Predictable right-wing response, born from a complete lack of intelligence. Yay for 'Merica!

#98 | Posted by YAV at 2025-02-03 12:33 PM | Reply

The brain-damaged orange turd left out a small detail.

Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum Pardo issued a "read-out" of her call with U.S. President Donald Trump on Monday " but her list of what the two leaders agreed to is different from his in one major respect: guns.

Washington Post staff writer Meryl Kornfield pointed out on X that in Sheinbaum's list of things the U.S. had committed to do is stop the flow of guns into Mexico.

www.rawstory.com

#99 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-02-03 12:35 PM | Reply

In Trump's readout of the call, the White House neglected to mention that the new president agreed to stop U.S. guns crossing the border, CNBC confirmed...

#100 | Posted by YAV at 2025-02-03 12:40 PM | Reply

Mexico caved and Canada will soon, but you loons on the left will still go ape ---- understand, you live in a miserable state, not your fault.

#101 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-02-03 12:40 PM | Reply

"In Trump's readout of the call, the White House neglected to mention that the new president agreed to stop U.S. guns crossing the border, CNBC confirmed..."

Something Mexico has wanted for ages and could not get from the US. Congrats to Trump for finally caving! Of course he stepped on his mushroom doing it, and is trying to save orange face, but still!

#102 | Posted by YAV at 2025-02-03 12:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The President of Mexico just pantsed the orange pedo. LOL

#103 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-02-03 12:46 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Mexico caved

#101 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

No, Dear. It was Donald who caved.

Mexico had already agreed to send troops to their border, BEFORE Donald's threats.

Donald was forced to give into Mexican demands about guns.

You people think Trump won because he was the one doing the screaming.

(I really, really would like to see how you live your lives at home).

In the event, THIS event, Donald got the beejezzus frightened out of him by the plunging stock market he's created.

Donald that ------------ lod mouth, is lying about what happened with Mexico as we speak.

I'l let you people admire his "accomplishment".

#104 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-03 12:51 PM | Reply

Ever heard of win/win?

Maybe both the US and Mexico got something they wanted?

#105 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-02-03 01:58 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Rigger please!!

Don't make me laugh.

That's not the art of the steal!

How can Trumpy claim America First and that he is the winner if Mexico wins, too?

Silly maggat.

#106 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-02-03 02:12 PM | Reply

Inflation came way down under Biden.

#6 | Posted by YAV a

always good to read godamn lies from the f/g freaks in the cess pool.

it did come down....AFTER it went up

f / g lying sack of ----....

RUMOR.....Trudeau is about to cave....

so take that and shove it up your ---

#107 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-02-03 03:58 PM | Reply

Fentanyl dealers come in all shapes, sizes and nationalities. From the very top cartel leaders to the lowest street dealers. As Americans we love stereotypes about which ethnicities engage in which activities. When it comes to drug manafacyuring, transportation and distribution, everybody is as involved as they are able to be. That is where the money is.

#108 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-02-03 04:22 PM | Reply

As for tariffs: sadly Trump's plans are a lose-lose situation for everyone. But at least gets to pretend he is a tough guy for the MAGA idiots.

#109 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-02-03 04:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

.Trudeau is about to cave....

#107 | POSTED BY SHRIMPTACODAN

Why should he cave after Sheinbaum got her win?

There is no advantage to letting Donald get what he wants. Mexico and Canada are best advised to keeping fighting.

Donald doesn't do well with actual fights.

#110 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-03 05:00 PM | Reply

I'd tell Trump to go pound sand if I were Canada. Eff him and his childish arrogance.

#111 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-02-03 05:04 PM | Reply

#111

Trudeau disagrees, already capitulated to Trump's threats.

#112 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-03 05:18 PM | Reply

Inflation came way down under Biden.
#6 | Posted by YAV

This is classic Idiocracy

#113 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-03 05:19 PM | Reply

What is your prediction?

Prediction?

Yeah, prediction.

Pain.

#114 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-02-03 05:21 PM | Reply

" This is classic Idiocracy"

On the contrary, that's economics. And Math. The third stimulus, Bidens $1400, meant that more money had been put back into the economy than Covid had taken out. That caused a momentary spike in inflation, where are the prices then remained until recently.

I blame Biden for the inflation spike. I also know Trump promised a stimulus 42% larger, meaning trumps inflation would've been considerably worse. Meanwhile, America brought down its inflation the furthest and the fastest.

#115 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-02-03 05:23 PM | Reply

What is your prediction?

Chaos

#116 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-03 05:48 PM | Reply

The Inflation, like the Pandemic, was International.... and this country under Dems came out of it better and quicker than any other large economy.

Now we have Trump taking us back to Inflation as quickly as he possibly can.

#117 | Posted by Corky at 2025-02-03 05:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Mod,

"As for tariffs: sadly Trump's plans are a lose-lose situation for everyone."

As for tariffs Trump's plans could potentially lead to negative outcomes, but it's too early to say how domestic and global trade will be affected. Anyone claiming to know the exact results is being dishonest.

Personally, I trust someone with years of experience like Trump over opinions from those posting on forums like this.

However, it's clear that Trump will face opposition, both from foreign leaders who want to see America fail and even domestic adversaries such as Democrats.

#118 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-02-03 06:02 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

- per #118

One just has to LOVE unintentional humor. It has both the funny and the sad aspects.

#119 | Posted by Corky at 2025-02-03 06:13 PM | Reply

Personally, I trust someone with years of experience like Trump over opinions from those posting on forums like this.

However, it's clear that Trump will face opposition, both from foreign leaders who want to see America fail and even domestic adversaries such as Democrats.

Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-02-03 06:02 PM |

Trump has bankrupt 6 businesses and failed at so many ventures it's not even funny. You worship the ground that he walks upon because he validated your hate. Full stop.

#120 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-02-03 06:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

This is classic Idiocracy

#113 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

I gotta hand it to you. You stunned me with your incredible level of stupid on that one!

#121 | Posted by YAV at 2025-02-03 07:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump blinked!

#122 | Posted by Twinpac at 2025-02-03 08:39 PM | Reply

Laura,

So now taking business risks and bouncing back makes someone unqualified?

Guess we should disqualify every successful entrepreneur who ever failed before making it big.

Sounds like you'd rather cheer for people who never even try.

#123 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-02-03 08:42 PM | Reply

Trump blinked!

Meanwhile, the astronauts are still stranded on the ISS.

Promises made, promises broken.

#124 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-02-03 08:51 PM | Reply

" Donald got the beejezzus frightened out of him by the plunging stock market he's created."

He probably shorted it right before announcing tariffs.

#125 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-02-03 09:50 PM | Reply

REDIAL

Re: (Trump blinked)

Or more likely this 30 day walk-back had something to do with Canada's P.M. cancelling that $800M contract with Musk's Starlink.

Not to mention the mushroom effect should others choose to follow Canada's lead.

#126 | Posted by Twinpac at 2025-02-03 10:04 PM | Reply

Canada's P.M. cancelling that $800M contract with Musk's Starlink

Justin didn't do that, it was the Premier of Ontario. And Elon could care less about $800 Million... he has the whole US treasury now.

#127 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-02-03 10:38 PM | Reply

"" Donald got the beejezzus frightened out of him by the plunging stock market he's created."

He probably shorted it right before announcing tariffs.

#125 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2025-02-03 09:50 PM | FLAG: "

It's possible. Pelosi's portfolio grew 54% last year. It's amazing how government workers manage to crush ROE compared to hedge fund managers.

#128 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-02-03 11:00 PM | Reply

REDIAL

My bad. You're right. It was Premier Ford.

Still, the optics of tearing up an $800M contract can't be good.

#129 | Posted by Twinpac at 2025-02-03 11:30 PM | Reply

"Still, the optics of tearing up an $800M contract can't be good.

#129 | POSTED BY TWINPAC AT 2025-02-03 11:30 PM | FLAG: "

The optics aren't great, obviously, but the results for the constituents are what really matter. If Starlink is capable of providing noticeably improved service and Premier Ford tore it up simply out of spite.....

#130 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-02-03 11:51 PM | Reply

Still, the optics of tearing up an $800M contract can't be good.

Bear in mind that Doug Ford is just as much of an idiot as his brother was.

#131 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-02-04 01:59 AM | Reply

What?

Felon47 said all year long that tariffs would be paid by the country of origin and not the consumer.

You --------- got played.

So badly.

#132 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-02-04 07:12 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Trump blinked!

#122 | POSTED BY TWINPAC AT 2025-02-03 08:39 PM | FLAG: "

The WSJ agrees and put that as their headline. Congrats on calling it, TwinPac!

#133 | Posted by YAV at 2025-02-04 09:20 AM | Reply

AND RIGHT HERE....I TOLD YOU THAT TRUDEAU WAS ABOUT TO FOLD...

proving again I know more about what's going on than half of you fk faced MORONS !!!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

#134 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-02-04 09:21 AM | Reply

-------------, even the WSJ knows Doe 174 folded. lol

www.wsj.com

#135 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-02-04 09:24 AM | Reply

#133 | Posted by YAV at

trump blnked

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

geesus godam you are one special piece of crap.

trump didn't lose this.....he initiated it all which means anyone who thinks

it was him that blinked is a lying sack of manure......

be a fk man about it will ya ???

#136 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-02-04 09:25 AM | Reply

As I posted on another thread:
BTW: Trudeau's "capitulation" (LMAO!) was exactly what Biden and he (Trudeau) had agreed to and implemented months earlier. So much amazement!"

Yep. Everything was already done and up and running. So Trump's "win" on Canada was re-announcing what was already in place and done by BIDEN.

WSJ: "Trump blinks on North American Tariffs"
China hits back additional 15% on Coal and LNG, additional 10% on crude oil, agricultural machinery, automobiles (large displacement), and pickup trucks.

#137 | Posted by YAV at 2025-02-04 09:26 AM | Reply

Suck it, Taco.

#138 | Posted by YAV at 2025-02-04 09:27 AM | Reply

-------------, even the WSJ knows Doe 174 folded. lol

www.wsj.com

#135 | Posted by reinheitsgebot

BS a whole.....anything posted by the likes of you is suspect regardless of what it is

NONE OF THIS WOULD HAPPEN WITHOUT TRUMP INITIATING IT>..

and that includes AMERICAN SPY PLANES FLYING IN MEXICO AIR SPACE>...

f / g jacka$$ jerk hoffs...

#139 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-02-04 09:29 AM | Reply

Suck it, Taco.

#138 | Posted by yav

same goes for you fk face....

anything you post has a stench to it...

eat shvt

#140 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-02-04 09:30 AM | Reply

------------- gets played again.

www.wsj.com

#141 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-02-04 09:30 AM | Reply

he (Donald) initiated it all which means anyone who thinks
it was him that blinked is a lying sack of manure......

#136 | POSTED BY SHRIMPTACODAN

1) Yes, he initiated it all.

2) Yes, be blinked.

3) The man got scared and wussied out.

4) This won't be the last time you see this.

#142 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-04 09:30 AM | Reply

again....we've said it all along...."you people" have to be too stupid to figure it out and now too GD fk up to admit it.

tariffs are a bargaining tool....did trump risk problems with it....hell yes...but

it seems to be working out.

we predicted your reaction and the reaction of most of the motha fawking media whores....

and we were right about that too...

---so LIE all you want about trump caving even though it was his plan all along to bring those leaders to this

saying that's him folding is typical of your idiiotic and ignorant level of hate and bigotry....

par for the course as they say...

FIGURES "YOU PEOPLE" HATE IT....cause anything good for Americans is BAD for you....

-30- cause reading your shvt is the last thing rational people really want to do on this beautiful morning....

#143 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-02-04 09:40 AM | Reply

anything you post has a stench to it...

You're so used the smell of lies you can't stand fresh the idea of breathing fresh air.
The truth is out there for you to find, but it will smack the ---- outta you.

#144 | Posted by YAV at 2025-02-04 09:42 AM | Reply

STD - putting his fingers in his ears and saying "lalalalalallalalalalaalallalala" over and over.

#145 | Posted by YAV at 2025-02-04 09:42 AM | Reply

WSJ: Trump Blinks on North American Tariffs

The demented orange pedo who bankrupts casinos got curb-stomped again.

#146 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-02-04 09:43 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#142 | Posted by Zed

geesus....when did you lose your --- mind ?

read slower idiot.

1) TRUMP said make a deal with us on the border or tariffs will be put in place.

2 ) right at the deadline they did just that..

hopefully that's simple enough for you brain dead morons....but I doubt it

NONE OF YOU ARE HONEST ENOUGH PEOPLE TO ADMIT THAT TRUMP'S PLAN WORKED...as it seems to have.

#147 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-02-04 09:44 AM | Reply

Even Rupert's lackeys admit dotard whiffed again.

www.wsj.com

#148 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-02-04 09:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

STD - putting his fingers in his ears and saying "lalalalalallalalalalaalallalala" over and over.

#145 | Posted by YAV a

AHAHHAHAHA....NO...

I'm laughing at you dishonest liars.

because I don't think any of you are idiots.

you're lying hate mongering bigots.

--got some celebrating to do with America sovereignty advocates..

CHINA will be a harder sell.....but what would you bigots know about that ?.....not a goddam thing.

#149 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-02-04 09:48 AM | Reply

NONE OF YOU ARE HONEST ENOUGH PEOPLE TO ADMIT THAT TRUMP'S PLAN WORKED...as it seems to have.

#147 | Posted by shrimptacodan

Depends on what you read.

Did he "win" according to the Cliff Notes version they released? Of course.

Did he "win" according to the actual deal that was quietly described by other sources? Nope. He looks like an old fool if you pay full attention.

#150 | Posted by jpw at 2025-02-04 09:59 AM | Reply

oh my freaking GAWD....

the tariffs ....threat of them....got Mexico to allow US SPY PLANES to fly over Mexico....and both canada and

Mexico are sending 10k troops to the their border...along with other concessions....

and "you people" continue your dishonest tirade of leftist-dogma KLAN gibberish.

---all very predictable...because that's what dishonest people do....

have a wonderful day and hopefully trump's victory will save the life of someone you know or love.

--then maybe you'll decide not to be an A WHOLE about it.

"I LOVE THE SMELL OF NAPALM IN THE MORNING".

"

#151 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-02-04 10:00 AM | Reply

#150 | Posted by jpw

good way for me to leave for work.

reading your stupid....fkg ---

#152 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-02-04 10:01 AM | Reply

after reading more from "you people" I feel the need to rework one comment..

because I don't think any of you are idiots.

you're lying hate mongering bigots.

Posted by shrimptacodan

you're IGNORANT lying hate mongering bigots.

so remember...you can lead a horse to water.

--but a pencil must be lead.

#153 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-02-04 10:13 AM | Reply

NONE OF THIS WOULD HAPPEN WITHOUT TRUMP INITIATING IT>..

and that includes AMERICAN SPY PLANES FLYING IN MEXICO AIR SPACE>...

f / g jacka$$ jerk hoffs...

#139 | Posted by shrimptacodan

Yeah, with everything going on, I've been wondering when we'd be sending spy planes over our southern ally and neighbor. So glad that and the perilous trade war with Canada have been settled.

These are vital issues.

Whew.

#154 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-02-04 10:16 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#152 | POSTED BY SHRIMPTACODAN

Donald huffed, and he puffed, and he blew nothing at all down. If he got anything at all, he could have done it by simply asking nice.

I don't know about you, buddy. If what Donald did smells like "napalm in the morning" to you then you just confirm my opinion about how brain dead MAGA insists on being.

How many of those Donald gold coins did you buy?

#155 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-04 10:16 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"AMERICAN SPY PLANES FLYING IN MEXICO AIR SPACE"

You know, an intelligent man would just re-direct American spy satellites.

Where do you people come from?

#156 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-04 10:18 AM | Reply

watch the B-2 spirit take off from Nellis AFB.....to protect your worthless lying ass....

thanks to PRESIDENT DONALD JON TRUMP !!

x.com

#157 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-02-04 10:20 AM | Reply

Where do you people come from?

#156 | POSTED BY ZED

It's more than snark. You people don't really seem to know a lot; and you don't seem to understand cause and effect.

It's because you and Donald don't know a lot, and because you don't understand simple cause and effect, that the rest of us so confidently predict your ongoing series of disasters, already in progress.

#158 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-04 10:21 AM | Reply

Where do you people come from?

#156 | POSTED BY ZED

It's more than snark. You people don't really seem to know a lot; and you don't seem to understand cause and effect.

It's because you and Donald don't know a lot, and because you don't understand simple cause and effect, that the rest of us so confidently predict your ongoing series of disasters, already in progress.

#159 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-04 10:21 AM | Reply

watch the B-2 spirit take off from Nellis AFB.....

#157 | POSTED BY SHRIMPTACODAN

Why would they need a freaking B-2? You don't really know what that is, do you?

You're being taken in by another grandiose Donald photo op.

No, nothing the least bit stupid about you.

#160 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-04 10:24 AM | Reply

.to protect your worthless lying ass....

#157 | POSTED BY SHRIMPTACODAN

From what?

Listen you yourself.

And using a B-2?

Alice in freaking Wonderland.

#161 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-04 10:27 AM | Reply

well shoot....one of my fellow Americans who...UNLIKE you despicable humans..

..actually care about the MANY people dying from fentanyl....people who actually care that thousands of their tax dollars are

going to illegals in hotel rooms and benefits while US seniors and vets are going without....

we know the answer is NO if the illiterate ---- had won....that's a given.

simple question with a 1 word answer.

would either of these deals have happened without trump threatening tariffs ?

yes

no

I can predict the asnwer from "you people" but maybe....just maybe 1 or 2 of you will surprise me.

#162 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-02-04 10:37 AM | Reply

sorry....I got in a hurry.....

#162

we know people would still be DYING from drug use and illegals would

still be getting free stuff while vets are in the streets if the illiterate ---- had won...

#163 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-02-04 10:39 AM | Reply

good way for me to leave for work.

reading your stupid....fkg ---

#152 | Posted by shrimptacodan

Your special needs employment program is still running after the fed funding pause? That's nice...

#164 | Posted by jpw at 2025-02-04 10:41 AM | Reply

163 | POSTED BY SHRIMPTACODAN

What do you think that a B-2 bomber is going to do about fentanyl?

Jesus.

You want to do something about fentanyl? Get your MAGA friends into treatment.

#165 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-04 10:48 AM | Reply

LMAO!

#166 | Posted by YAV at 2025-02-04 10:54 AM | Reply

STD's meltdown has been rather enjoyable.

#167 | Posted by YAV at 2025-02-04 10:55 AM | Reply

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