Also if you watch the slowed down video, he did backup once he heard the wheel spin.

Additionally, maybe backing up more and stepping aside/getting the hell out of the way if he felt endangered was the more prudent way to go rather than fire RIGHT INTO THE WINDSHIELD.

This was not a suspect or person of interest.

"The officers calmly walked up and attempted to open her car door."

LOL, who the hell said that, Noem?

Same thing in the Ashli case, she wasn't the person actually breaking in, but it was part of a mob banging on the door.

Not really the same thing - he's endangering HIS partner. It wasn't someone related to the driver LOL

If I'm his partner, I'm like WTF are you doing - you could have shot me over this BS.

"barely"....doesn't matter. You don't get barely pregnant.

Perhaps a bad choice of words by me, but why is he drawing that gun?

I know - because he thought he was going to get run over, right?

Honestly, simply moving out of the way - rather than firing gun shots - is actually the better way for self perservation.

He wanted to pull that gun and intimidate her..............

The other thing to consider is, given the situation and the driver, he fires at the car endangering his partner who is on the passenger side door.

This was not an armed person or even a person of interest - again - this is an unforced error via horrible law enforcement principles.

Why does he think he needs to step out in front of a moving vehicle and pull his weapon the driver?

I can tell you exactly why.

He was going to point that gun at her and yell to get out of the car - extensively a power trip which was NOT needed in this situation.

This was not a person they needed to apprehend.

true but misleading, watch #227, he shot multiple times. His first shot was head on as he was trying to move out of the way.

C'mon dude - he's reaching for his gun before she is barely moving forward.

You can't believe that is warranted given what she was doing.

I also assume this is a State issue, not a federal case?

Politically this will really hurt the GOP.

Republicans and MAGA will be on the defense, but the indepedents will look at this and say - is this really what we signed up for? Killing a US citizen when you promised to get rid the of the worse of the worst illegals?

Expect this to be exploited in ads come midterms.

He posted that hours ago, right after it happened, FYI

Which makes sense, as usual, clueless.

Noem has said the ICE agent was hit by the car.

True?

Agent actually shot as she was driving by.

That's true...........

I think pulling his gun, given what I saw, was unnecessary. You can see the ICE agent going for the door was being very aggressive. But, he didn't pull his gun.

This person wasn't doing something that required a drawn gun, IMO. In fact, I think your first reaction should be to simply avoid being hit by the car (if that is in fact your fear). But to pull a gun, don't see it.

Of course what I think and what passes in a court room are two differnt things lol

As Gal and I both pointed out, seeing how much experience this person has will be interesting.

However some people were waved in by capitol police.

It's sad that you actually have to throw that in. Waved in after they busted down the door? lol

Can you say that Trump should have been impeached? I bet you can't.

Gotta admit, the slo mo Gail put out there looks really bad for this agent.

Shooting that way - completely unnecessary.

Sloppy as hell, results in a killing.

And I'm sure you also agree they shouldn't have all been pardoned.

Glad we agree some people - well many - deserved jail time.

Looking at the video in slow motion, I can't help but ask: Why did the shooter pull his gun on her in the first place?

Said the same exact thing!

That looks bad.

Here we go again, as I said on another thread.

Shoot first, ask questions later.

Bad law enforcement.

I defend J6ers in general

Not to pivot, but why?

Other than being an -----, you had to be a real idiot to even try to enter the Captiol that day.

Oh wait, sure, the election was stolen.

Thank for that post, Gal.

I see the officer pulling out his gun immediately....before she's even close to him.

That just feels wrong.

While it looked like she was trying to get away she clearly didn't care if her car hit someone in the process. This is Ashlee Babbitt 2.0

First thing I thought of.

Question is, where were you on the Babbitt issue?

Your point is a distinction without a difference.

Certainly can make that point.

I'll say it again, with this amateur ICE agents, I wouldn't go near them with a 10 foot pole. You're putting your life in danger.

Can't tell them apart can you.
Which is my point.

They are similar - shouldn't have been where they where.

But there is some subtle difference. Babbitt was continuing an illegal activity, along with a mob, towards officers in the Capitol.

The MN woman was driving off and appeared to me not trying to run over the agent.

Saw the video - he didn't have to fire his weapon and the agent certainly wasn't "run over" as Trump described.

But she shouldn't have been there - and self defense claim will probably work given the close distance of the car.

This shouldn't have happened, IMO, but this is what happens when you try to kill an ant with a hammer.

I'd like to know the experience level of the agent.

And I've seen video of agents spraying protesters by lifting their umbrellas and throwing people into snow that are simply doing....nothing.

It's come to this.

And if even 1 member of congress had gotten shot, then this conversation would be 100% different.

But that didn't happen - results.

And one person killed (intruder), considering it was a riot on the Capitol consisting of hundreds- I again praise what they did.

There isn't an audience anyway.

Two makes an audience, LOL