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Another week, another study, used by "socialists" trying to re-establish long-debunked correlation of "average" life longevity to the [lack of] "free and universal / single-payer" and, obviously, the "socialism."
As usual, trying to pick and choose small samples of disparate facts to establish "correlation," let alone causation, fails even slightly more rigorous tests, and usually serves only people trying to convince themselves (time and again, with every new "study") that what they've been told "forever" and sincerely believe is true... or just used to influence younger audience, not well versed in statistics and fallacies.
This study itself immediately debunks the thesis of such "correlation" because there is big difference in longevity between the states, yet obviously, no difference between the "healthcare system" in Massachusetts's, Hawaii, Mississippi, Alabama and other states, since it's the same. So the differences or correlations are in many other variables; e.g., a lot closer to levels of education, wealth and income, diet, demographics and genetics (age, race, etc.), crime and suicides etc., and has nothing to do with the "healthcare system."
en.wikipedia.org - States ranked by median household/per capita income
Much better correlation to average lifespan in states?!
If "universal / single-payer healthcare system" were really cheaper, "true blue" states would jump on it... but apparently it's not the case, since Bernie Sanders' VT, CO and CA couldn't afford it, and there is no objective evidence that it's better anywhere else, e.g., in UK, just because some people in some of "new socialism" countries supposedly "like" their "no bills" system for which they "invisibly" pay in much higher income and sales / GST taxes.
TANSTAAFL!
en.wikipedia.org - Vermont health care reform
www.latimes.com - Single-payer healthcare meets its fate again in the face of California's massive budget deficit - LAT, 2024-05-16
www.vox.com - Colorado single-payer initiative failure - 2017-09-14
www.pacificresearch.org - What's Wrong With Single-Payer? Ask Vermont. - 2025-07-02
|------- Everywhere it's tried, universal health care leads to higher costs for taxpayers.
... Colorado can learn from Vermont - and from its own experience. In 2016, nearly 80% of Colorado voters rejected an amendment to establish universal health coverage through "ColoradoCare." To fund the program ... "state would have had to raise taxes, cut services, raise copayments, lower health care provider payments, or some combination of all to cover the difference." -------|
|-------... cost of [Colorado] Amendment 69 was estimated at $36 billion per year, more than the entire state budget. ... "An insurance card doesn't necessarily guarantee you access either" -------|
"Socialism" for many has bizarrely become a shorthand for fuzzy whatever is "not capitalism"... just as "America First" is a slogan / shorthand for fuzzy whatever MAGA's grand poohbah says is "not woke"... or "6-7!" ?
Or just like Trump who, once convinced of something, keeps repeating it despite the facts showing exactly the opposite.
No worries, another study will come along soon, for same people to mangle selective statistics to "prove" whatever they believe.
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#17 | Posted by Duckman at 2026-01-09 10:55 AM
Trump knows that Denmark will let the US do any "strategic" thing in Greenland that he wants. But Trump wants to join the above club so he can be a "great President".
Yes, he wants to be "consequential" and "permanent" in history. That's why hunt for Nobel and rebuilding of White House (and DC) as the buildings/structures will have Trump name attached to them. While EOs / "policies" can be rolled back, the last NSS is trying to make them fairly "permanent" and destroy as much of "new" world order (much as he did to Atlantic City) where the US was "top dog" as possible, which is dreams come true for Putin (and Xi). **
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#33 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-01-10 03:14 PM
But, isn't Greenland part of NATO, so aren't we already obligated to protect Greenland from a China or Russia attack?
More than that - we have specific defense agreement with Denmark, just as there was 1994 "Budapest Memorandum" about Ukraine's security:
avalon.law.yale.edu - Avalon Project - Defense of Greenland: Agreement Between the United States and the Kingdom of Denmark, April 27, 1951
en.wikipedia.org - Proposals for US acquisition of Greenland
So all the talk about needing to "own" Greenland so "Russia and China won't be our neighbors" is a pretext for MAGA birdbrains. Same as Canada being 51st state and fentanyl coming to US from Venezuela or... "Nazis in Ukraine"
He understands ownership, not alliances... though neither worked out well in his private businesses - hence, "Everything Trump touches turns to s**t and dies."
Here is good analysis:
www.theatlantic.com - The Hole in Trump's Rationale for Acquiring Greenland - 2026-01-09
|------- ... A Cold War era agreement allows Washington broad authority to conduct military operations on Greenland. The agreement, signed by Denmark and the United States in 1951, allows the U.S. to "construct, install, maintain, and operate" bases across the island, station personnel, and set the terms of "landings, takeoffs, anchorages, moorings, movements, and operation of ships, aircraft, and water-borne craft." Pituffik is the only current U.S. base. ...
The 2021 NDA called for the creation of the Arctic and Global Resilience Policy Office at the Pentagon, which was set up in 2022. ...
Around the time of the government shutdown last fall, the office effectively ceased to exist. ...
Trump [named] Jeff Landry as special envoy to Greenland. Trump justified the appointment by recalling the Louisiana Purchase - the acquisition from the French of territory including land from 15 current states and two Canadian provinces, in 1803 ...
** Trump's repeated insistence on obtaining Greenland has prompted a furious reaction from European governments. In the long run, that may leave Washington less able to counter Russian and Chinese maneuvering in the Arctic - if that was indeed Trump's aim in the first place. The president recently [said] that Greenland is "surrounded by Russian and Chinese ships" (a claim described as unsupported by evidence), but the administration's National Security Strategy, issued at the end of last year, seemed to shy from competition with U.S. adversaries... The document envisioned "strategic stability with Russia" and called for a "genuinely mutually advantageous economic relationship with Beijing." It made no mention of the Arctic. -------|
There is a reason why mercantilism failed 300 years ago.
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