#13 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2023-11-30 02:11 PM
It's still open.
All employees make a decent wage and have good benefits.
Well, duh, like many in most essential and non-essential government services, they are financed by taxes on other people.
The people there love it.
What choice do they have? Just like in every socialist country that went bust - they had no choice but to "love it" until one day / year they chose not to, and decided to significantly improve their standard of living.
The one in Baldwin, Florida is still open, too.
I know they're not smart enough to figure it out on their own, so I hope no one tells them it's socialism.
You can tell them, so they will know what real "socialism" is - smaller selection, fewer choices, higher prices and subsidies by the city government (to cover chronic losses / deficits) from taxpayers funds that were allocated to some other services that will no longer be met. OPM can buy a lot of goodwill.
"Socialism is great until you run out of other people's money."
And we are talking about an island of so-called "socialism" in a remote town with population of 1600? You really want to scale this "socialism" up to entire state, country? Most people don't.
www.washingtonpost.com - When a deep red town's only grocery closed, city hall opened its own store. Just don't call it 'socialism.' - Nov 22, 2019
... Though the Baldwin Market doesn't need to worry about making a profit, there's considerable pressure to break even in a notoriously low-margin business. The initial loan from the reserve fund still needs to be repaid...
... The town-run market also can't compete with retail giants like Walmart, which Lynch acknowledges can lead to higher-than-average prices... Some residents have taken to the Internet to voice concerns about whether the low-income and elderly people the Baldwin Market is intended to help can afford to shop there. ...
Still, in places where fresh, healthy food is hard to find, it's more common to see nonprofit organizations respond by opening their own stores, or for residents to band together and form food cooperatives... Lang, of The Food Trust, points out that since governments tend to have more resources and be more stable than nonprofits, a municipally owned grocery store could have more longevity than one operated by a community group.
#17 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2023-11-30 03:59 PM
The workers are paying local taxes and therefore, literally, own the means of production. It's absolutely socialism.
No, they don't "own the means of production" - they are buying products from private (some of which are "publicly traded" aka "listed") companies, and are paying "local taxes" just as everyone else in capitalist society.
You, like many on this website, literally have no idea what "socialism" is, but keep redefining and reimagining what you think it is or could be, despite clear definitions and decades of failed history.
reason.com - Government-Run Grocery Store Is Predictably Losing Money | The folly of government-run grocery stores is sadly not a historical relic like the USSR - Oct. 23, 2023
The most famous failure of government-run grocery stores comes, naturally, from the old Soviet Union, where basic consumer necessities were often in short supply.