"When a shows gets sold to a network, the salaries for all employees are included in the contract. When the contract is written, the salary for each person of a certain position is presented at maximum compensation."

I'm learning something here. I know nothing about the entertainment industry.

A "show" isn't just the product...the show...but it's actually an organization? That makes sense but I never saw it that way.

And in the context of this discussion, I can see why you question keeping compensation secret and the consequences.

-But mostly, the reason to keep it hidden is to not negatively impact morale at the company, when Joe finds out Mary is making $25K more despite being a newer hire.

that's right. To keep morale from the toilet.

Unless you're going to argue that Joe is getting screwed solely because Mary is awesome at her job.

-And what I'm saying is, that's up to you, not your employer, if you want to share those details.

okay. I think employers should STFU on how employees talk to each other.

-Employers who treat their employees fairly shouldn't be worried about employees discussing how much they get paid since they would be getting paid fairly.

It's not that my employer forbids me to walk down the hall and tell someone what I make. I don't care if employees talk with each other about it.

It's that I don't think the employer should be compelled to share my compensation to the world.

what part of my compensation is your business?

salary
company car
phone, expense account
commission structure
bonus structure
profit sharing
benefits
deferred compensation agreement

what part of any of that is your business?

-But... why shouldn't salaries be public information?

well, to put it bluntly...the public is too stupid to understand compensation structures.

I'm guessing by these questions, it's obvious where your compensation falls on the spectrum in your organization.

I didn't say anything about firing someone for repeating their wage.

I'm just saying it's appropriate for your employer to keep private information private.

your driving record
your wife's prozac prescription
your compensation plan including a bonus schedule that's specific for your job.

What business is it of any fellow employee to know that about you?

In fairness, your fellow employee's information isn't your business either.

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nope

"Average workers are too busy surviving to read long pages about economics but if they could look at a chart that shows basic information about compensation of employees from top to bottom listed simply, I think they would be interested enough to examine their own compensation and compare it with other jobs."

Even employers who treat their workers very fair would want to continue to maintain some confidentiality of compensation.

And there are wage surveys everywhere, and the opportunity to seek employment elsewhere is always present.

IOW, there is a fair amount of transparency out there already.

"And not a good troll at that.
Yeah, a really bad troll."

Is it possible to achieve the status of being an actual good troll?

what do you call the back and forth between JPW and Lft?

trolling? flame war?

Easy Laura, the bossman will change it....but the article is interesting.

"Current law requires the White House to "sequester" certain mandatory spending programs. Reductions in Medicare spending would be limited to 4 percent annually " or an estimated $45 billion for fiscal 2026.

The cuts would total roughly $490 billion over the 2027-2034 period."

at least that's a little more specific.

Thanks, Snoofy.

-Without reading the article.

I can't read it.

-I opened this thread because of the headline.

Me too. How, exactly, is Medicare going to be cut according to this bill?

9

white

I have many clients who hire H2A workers from South Africa. I hear the same story from all of them about what life is like there......and why they want to work and live in the USA.

I don't know about these people specifically....but I we have a lot of employers here who want as many of them as we can provide.

"Has it ever failed yours?
Was it when Obama got elected?"

I voted for Obama. but you're admitting it's all about what you don't get on election day. IT's not actually about dead civilians.

9

Thanks. Employers will always be greedy and focusing on the bottom line.

I work for a cooperative which focuses on the "members" which makes it easier to take care of employees. We don't have absent owners who demand their huge checks....that would suck.

-If you're not outraged by 50,000 dead civilians, you just might support terrorism!

40 million dead civilians during WW 2. Some of them as a result of dropping 2 bombs on them.

I wasn't around for it but doubt there was much of a platform for folks like you running around calling people terrorists if they failed to display enough "outrage" over it all.

We can move on to Korea and Vietnam and even back up to the Civil War if you'd like to count up civilian deaths.

Has America ever passed your purity test?

Our popularity drops off every single time we elect a republican into the WH. It's been that way since popularity started getting measured.

Doesn't seem to be a deterrent to voters.

-THE ROCKET has been unofficially left off but he was even better..

He clearly is qualified to be in by any measurable factor....but he won't get the votes.

So this is a nice gesture on MLB's part....but I don't think it will matter.

This just means he's off the ineligible list. Nothing more.

Clemens
Bonds
McGwire

none of those guys were banned or on some list yet none of them are getting in the HOF.

The same people who believe those guys I listed above shouldn't go in....are they going to allow Rose and/or Jackson in?

The voters for the HOF are still the same

BTW, having a great week. Oldest graduated law school Monday in St. Louis. Next one is graduating from K-State with an engineering degree on Saturday.

Both have jobs waiting on them. Very very very blessed.

The above was from Corky's link where he whines that the cost of labor is a commodity. it's not a charity.

"From 2021 to 2023, the cost of affording what amounts to a basic level of economic security doubled, according to LISEP's analysis. Housing and health care costs surged, while the amount of savings required to attend an in-state, public university soared 122%."

pretty old news but yes, very true.