"There is a post office near me where the regular postal clerk is a born again christian. EVERY time I go in there she proselytizes at me. I really want to tell her to go ---- herself, but I refrain."

You live in Mayberry?

Admit it ... ..you WANT to go in there because you're a masochist

-Seems like the law and the economy are at odds here.

Which is why it's mostly been an unenforced law

-Are you two trying to make an argument for how these people are members of the community and help provide support and services to their community?

Yes and point out the entire community benefits from this "crime"

Not just the employer.

I think the loudest screamers about the employers are really just trying to outshout the loudest screamers about the illegal immigrants.

-THAT's the guy to find and deport, amirite???

Mostly for selling minimum limits ... ... ..

-THAT's the guy to find and deport, amirite???

Mostly for selling minimum limits ... ... ..

"The first is like a John hiring a prostitute. The second is like the prostitute buying a pack of cigarettes at the corner store.

Police set up stings to catch Johns and seize their car. Maybe the police should set up stings and seize businesses."

So you think that's a good law? People should go to jail for hiring a prostitute?

The law equals morality?

In parts of this country we're allowing people to lock up and or sue medical providers who provide medically necessary abortions.

You down with that as well?

Its the law!!

Do you people believe it's immoral to give someone a job if they aren't here illegally?

Not illegal ... ... .immoral?

-No one else is required to check the resident status of someone.

That's right. But my point is clearly that everybody is benefiting.

Maybe we should make a lot of those things I just mentioned illegal

crap...I forgot about a few others....

everyone who depends on that employer to get their job done.

Construction
agribiz
hospitality
etc..

all those customers, suppliers, lenders, etc......

I guess that pretty much makes everyone an enabler whether or not they "employed" them.

Maybe that's when you scream "what about the employer!!??" and all you hear is silence??

maybe that's why.

we're bitching about a "criminal" when we all benefit from the "crime".

-What size is that broad brush, anyway?

pretty big.....fair point.

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The employer is an enabler....that's why they deserve to be incarcerated? fair enough.....

Let's discuss who else is an enabler...which we'll define as someone who "profits" from them...

landlords
grocery stores and other retail businesses
car dealership sold them a car and an insurance agent sold them insurance....and a county issued them a tag
someone gave them a drivers license
someone took their payroll taxes
someone took their kids into a school
someone sold them health insurance
church took their donation

just sayin.........and maybe that's why nobody is too excited to single out the employer.....

What can these guys do? Can they wait it out for Trump to no longer be president and file a civil case?

I didn't read all the stories but the first one was in the country illegally which I assume means he can be legally deported but was the due process followed? I'm guessing no.....

I would truly like to see these guys get their day in court but I have no idea if that's possible.

-Any idea who ran the federal government at that time?

what does "ran the federal government" mean?

When Obama was president, this place declared the republicans were still in charge.

Same goes with Biden.

The republicans are always running the federal government.

gerrymandering, unified party line, citizens united, etc....all reasons why the GOP is never not in charge.

"the gerrymandering outs all the power in the hands of the rural leeches.."

-Liberals are better educated and informed than republicl0wns... It's a fact.

Fair enough but there aren't enough of them.

"It isn't going to be fixed until the poor rise up against the oligarchs... same as always... nasty bloodshed... public executions... either that or a devastating pandemic... some natural disaster to level the playing field."

Who are you describing? Who do you imagine would do this?

They couldn't bother to show up to an election to vote against this guy. Allowed themselves to be discouraged by Harris just enough to stay home or even vote for Trump.

They are going to do what they are capable of doing.......which is to be on their iPhones and be miserable.

that's it......

-Among 1,920 respondents over the age of 62, 50 percent support eliminating the cap on earnings subject to payroll taxes, making it the most popular reform option by a wide margin. ...

You can ask any age group this question and get the same results. It's not about age....it's about how much people make. How many people make more than $176K a year?

You mean people support taxing someone other than themself more? Color me shocked....

Maybe it's the lack of vaccinations?

Is that where this was supposed to go?

This is difficult to prove. They certainly don't get diagnosed with such things because they never go to the doctor.

"He was hit with more than a dozen charges, eventually pleading guilty last October to a single charge of attempting to commit identity theft. After his plea, a 9th Judicial District judge gave Tyler a two-year deferred judgment, allowing his felony to be cleared from his record upon successfully completing his 24-month probation term."

So he's a complete POS who's been giving special consideration because of who he is but he can't clean up his act.

When we were experiencing wage growth and it was good news ... ... I reminded everyone this will be soon forgotten when inflation outpaces it.

Wage growth is good but inflation does what it does.

I have men's night tonight.

speaks, if you have a man in your life.....ask them what that means....

:-)

the dems want the list released and they're protecting Clinton at the same time?

how does that work?

it's not the opposition party. It's the party I predominantly vote for in general elections.

I know you equate calling someone a republican to calling them a pedo.

right now you can call a bunch of people a pedo. It's fun for you. enjoy it.

-How does the comparison between him and Trump make sense?

just what I typed.

I didn't bring kennedy up...wouldn't have. just having fun with that.