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Yes.

As I said earlier, this is evidence that Newsom is actually pro business. He's trying to keep the economy moving.

But the other reason why I jumped into this thread was because we always have these debates about how guilty the employers are of making this mess.

And how nobody understands seemingly why the government doesn't do something about it.

This is why. Quite frankly both the federal and the state governments are 100% complicit in illegal immigration issues and it's why they don't jump on the employers like so many here would hope.

-How would you quantify "some of it"?

20,000 files? I don't know if that's a significant % or not.

I'm skeptical we'll see much.

-The only people who think that POS is worth listening to aren't worth listening to themselves.

I didn't make CNN cover it.

You're a little unhinged right now, aren't you?

Epstein files are released. At least some of it

And the shutdown is over.

But you're sad ... ... ... .why the long face?

-Perhaps you'd like to actually compare Trump's record of crimes to DA Harris'?

why? It's no contest.

Oh, did the facts offend you yet again?

"the electorate," I'll stop you right there. For the rest of your life, never comment again on the voters or elections. You prove you understand zero about how to win elections. "the better candidate loses as often..." blah blah blah. what a copout.

Trump is on TV right now ripping the democrats to absolute shreds.

This didn't have to happen. a lot of folks were dragged through the mud over the past couple months....and for what?

So that Trump can win and throw the democratic party under the bus.

It sucks.

Now...go back to calling me a drunk and a woman.

I really can't imagine how awful a candidate has to be to lose to Trump.

Yet a major political party managed to do it.......twice.

-As for Eberly's question, I'm not sure what answer he's looking for. He knows the answer already.

You were being critical of ICE deportations. Did you mean Trump's deportations or just deportations?

Perhaps since you now realize Obama deported a lot of folks.....maybe you want to reel that back in a little. Or just admit you don't like Trump's deportations.

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I can imagine some people who don't like you very much.

That's a tough situation to be in.

-Says the idiot who supports fascism and ICE deportations.

Hey now ... ... .you're not saying you're against deportations, are you?

"When it requires coincidence after coincidence after coincidence to refute an allegation, then the allegation is almost always accurate"

Has that led your pedophile clients to be convicted?

-What doesn't matter?

That Trump actually raped underage girls.

You don't care if he did it or not.

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Probably doesn't matter to the maga folks.

But then again it's obviously not important to chubby either.

For those who can make the distinction between belief and evidence ... ... ..do you try to assert a yield sign is the same thing as a stop sign?

They're both road signs, right? Same!!!

You have access to all the evidence we do.

Really? No wait, we've known that for years and years.

You're trying very hard to pretend to be stupid or you're legitimately this stupid. We are talking specifically about his connection with Epstein and the suspected criminal acts.

But go back to his mishandling of a charity as evidence he's a pedo.

LOL

Keep swinging Chubby.

I'm kidding but maybe you are an actual fat ---

-But the biggest difference here is that California admitted to its error and corrected it.

You mean 17,000 errors.

-When republicans don't feel any pressure from their constituents to do anything, they won't.

True

-You're the one choosing this hill to make your stand, and it explains a lot about you.

Do you have a point?

I voted for Harris, Biden and Clinton.

I've voted against this ------- 3 times while less than enthusiastic about the alternatives.

I have no trouble believing Trump is guilty of knowing this ---- was going on and further even participating in it.

But it's a belief. Nothing more. I asked for evidence and an email from a Dead guy is what we have so far.

We all know that's not proof. Some are pretending it's objective evidence that convicts him in a court of law.

That's the hill you are standing on, Chubby.

Enjoy the view

My hill? It's where I can separate a belief from fact.

-Do you need more evidence?

No. Not really.

But so what? I'm not on the jury and that email won't get you very far except to convince yourself in case you hadn't already accepted it.

But that's bias talking.

-Do you think deflecting to Clinton is a winning tactic?

No. It might reveal some to be hypocritical but who gives a crap?

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In English, drama queen ... ... .if you're interested in a response

-Now, I understand it must be hard werk being a Republican these days,

not really. What's the work? Being a republican means I get to vote in the GOP primary which is the only election that selects my representatives.

I could switch parties but then I'm reducing the impact of my vote to nothing.

maybe you waste your primary vote and you're too stupid to realize it. I don't know.

"I don't think the main point of this is that it's cut and dry evidence that Trump molested this victim."

I agree but there are some here who don't.......

Moder8, the criminal attorney, has already convicted Trump based on the evidence. He said so.

I've asked for the actual evidence.......nobody has even bothered to help the poor sap.

-Everything I said is easily proven fact.

Let us know when you actually start believing that.

Because you don't.

Here is what Whatsleft just typed...."I personally believe Trump is a sexual predator"

That's where you are as well. You just don't have the nerve to admit it. Instead, you're trying to sell the notion it's not about belief. It's about provable facts.

But you're lying. You simply believe it which is fine (I do as well) but it's just a belief and you're just a dumfuq trying to split hairs over it.

"a finger-raping fraud liar traitor and mass child murderer"

if you believed all that, then you wouldn't refer to it as bias.

But you don't believe it all and you just admitted it. That's why you accepted the premise of "bias".

Where is the bias in the observation of objective facts? none.

But you think it is because, in your own feeble little mind, you're trying to convince yourself of the truth.

-But you are willing to just take the word of an actual pedo and known briber.

When Trump tells people here what they want to hear, they believe him.

People see what they want, believe what they want, frame everything to their liking.

Bias is meant to be fought against....not embraced.

#125 | Posted by Angrydad at 2025-11-12 04:38 PM | Reply | Flag: One of Trump's victims

-If Trump was forced to trial for child molestation based on the evidence made public so far, it would take a jury less than an hour to convict him.

The evidence made public so far consists of what? Upthread it was said it was a few emails that exonerated Trump more or less. I'm guessing there is much much more that's public.

What is the evidence?