Great headline.

-Thank-you for that admission.

Only he can admit to anything.

"can you tell me why you keep posting that obvious lie?"

To piss you off.

republicans would have sworn it was the democrats who were trying to take their guns away.

Well.....here we are........

Telling people who are legally allowed to carry........that they can't carry.

-Giving them the benefit of any doubt is a dubious position indeed.

I guess I should have explicitly stated that I'm not giving anyone the benefit of any doubt.

-Surely, some of them do

What do the rest think, then? It's about the money? That's it?

It's not about patriotism to them?

What do you think motivated the J6ers? Patriotism.

Hell, Tim McVeigh believed he was being a patriot as well. That's how screwed up people are.

-Dropping out is the antithesis of what he should be doing if he wants to remain in politics and the R party

I think you have to assume he's lost his political appetite.

"But the right is so far right, and the left is so far left that we are stuck in a self feeding downward spiral....."

No question the right has moved more to the right. But the left? I don't see policies that indicate that.

Running a black woman for president? Not very long ago, that would have been labeled an "extreme left" move.....but the policies don't reflect that, IMO.

You're free to show examples, however.

-I stated on a previous thread that I thought the only positive to potentially come out of Pretti's murder was to cause disgust in the professionals who may have issues with the current use and policies of ICE.

Knowing every move by ICE would be chronicled by millions of cell phones and knowing we would be putting angry hostile people together in these situations.....you know the probabilities of that happening was pretty high.

Think about most of these newly hired ICE agents. They perceive themselves as patriots serving their country. And by country, I mean a democratically elected president and congress that decided they belonged where they are being deployed. The American people have been pissing and moaning about illegal immigration for decades.

I know it's insane to see it this way but the starting point of these hostile confrontations is a resentful and pissed off ICE agent (who believes they are patriots serving their country) being confronted by American citizens who are obstructing their ability to do their jobs.

I know that was written in such a way that I'll get accused of defending ICE and ICE agents but I'm not......I merely stating this from their perspective and it explains why they seem justified in shooting people.

They're wrong and misguided as hell. They don't understand why Americans would get in their way.

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Gotcha. I think you explained that before. Sorry for making you repeat that.

-The 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution has done absolutely nothing positive for the USA.

Exactly my point.

Hence the reference to the irony of it.

There is no irony on the right. They're completely predictably hypocritical.

-Didn't Deythspud leave because he had a "tator tot"?

I think so but he left years and years before your handle was registered.

Maybe you've already disclosed this so I apologize if I missed it.....but what name did you use to post under?

-And Republicans are going to present the 2nd amendment as a threat to public safety

irony all around.....

-Most of the lefties I know are armed.

armed? as in carrying? or simply that they own guns?

Strange times.

The left is going to defend the 2nd amendment.

wow, okay...well, I've had those guys plonked for a while.

they're easier to ignore that way.

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Twoothy thought Jeff was a dentist. Jeff's real name he had on his userpage was the same name as a dentist in the Detroit area. Twoothy posted a link to that dentist's website. It was funny as hell.

Twoothy is a walking meltdown.

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I was the 3rd?

and quit calling him Jeff.

It's Jeff, DDS.

-Who else is there to argue with?

that you have or haven't plonked?

So, when someone posts something you disagree with, you'll be unable to post a "retort".

That's beyond you.

Just go right ahead to the meltdown.

Fine....die on that hill, --------------

-He was protesting this -------- thread.

Which had a grand total of THIS post, except your personal attack.....

Some of the opposition is driven by how the deportations are being carried out especially with 2 fatal shootings over a short span of time.
Having said that, even if the deportation process was more restrained and the rhetoric from the administration was more careful and less reckless and incendiary, Democrats and their allies would still oppose this tooth and nail.

#1 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-01-26 02:03 PM

I guess everyone will stop calling it Twoothy's meltdown. It's now Twoothy & Clown's meltdown.

-Until Pretti was killed 7 democrats voted to fund ICE 10 billion more.

only 7? Doesn't sound like the best representation of the Democratic Party. Of course there are moderates out there who are compelled to appear on the side of law and order and tough immigration enforcement.

but let's see how far that goes......

-He was protesting this -------- thread.

by having a meltdown.

-It's Democrats fault ICE is attacking and murdering Americans?

nope.

Anymore hysteria you planning on displaying?

If so, I have things to do. I'm not going to waste my time on your hysteria.

I'm not blaming democrats for anything. Would democrats oppose any kind of move like this from Trump?

100% chance of that. It's politics and it's fine. But I said originally on this thread....ICE has managed to justify the opposition all by themselves.

IOW, they've made it easy for democrats to oppose this, despite the fact they would have regardless.

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Fine but nobody hears it regardless. You don't seem to realize you've shouted "NAZI" a million times at the GOP long before Trump was elected.

Nobody hears it anymore.

-Twoothy totally spammed the thread yet I'm the problem?

twoothy is just a distraction whore.

I don't disagree with you but it's not really that relevant anymore. Democrats were a lock to come out against any of this ICE expansion.

It may be merely politically based opposition but these recent murders are shifting public support for what ICE is doing.

All good intentions (if there were any) or any actual good acts are being washed away by these killings.