He also said that the Democrats killed in MN was different too, but again didn't explain why.

Did you see january 6?
#37 | Posted by truthhurts

I mentioned that to my relative, but he said 1/6 was different. When I asked why/in what way, he didn't respond.

"And I bet Gal, your relative probably doesn't care about gay folk or feminists, but I bet he doesn't want it taught to children."

He doesn't want them to teach his children, true, but they are part of the liberal left he will no longer tolerate and wants destroyed.

Amazing again gal. The only ones I see doing violence is the left.
#33 | Posted by boaz

That's because you either aren't looking or are ignoring what doesn't fit into your preferred narrative:

"They sound like a great individual. Trustworthy. God fearing."

If you agree with him and are a RWinger too, then, yes. If not, then not so much.

Why? Because they dont accept just anything that violates their convictions?
#29 | Posted by boaz

And because he wants to impose his beliefs/convictions on everyone else, on the whole country, and seems willing to do so potentially through violence.

Why? Because they dont accept just anything that violates their convictions?
Posted by boaz

No, because he think all liberals, Democrats, left-leaning people are evil, and that he and all folks on the right are right/righteous/soldiers in God's army and can do no wrong.

"Boaz are You in a Militia?"

For the first time today, I wondered that about my relative. He is ex-military and very religious (born again Christian). I don't know him to be racially intolerant, but he hates LGBTQ people and feminists.

#27 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday

I'm pretty sure he believes this is spiritual warfare, and he is a loyal soldier in God's army who can do no wrong. Very scary stuff.

"Watching videos of him, I didn't like his positions on many topics, but I felt no anger towards him, and he really didn't express anger or hate towards those he was debating."

I for one didn't hate Kirk because I didn't know anything about him before the shooting except his name and that he was a MAGA Repulican.

"So speech is violent, so using violence against a person is reasonable?"

Can't you read or are you being deliberately obtuse? That ain't what EP said.

#33 | Posted by Effeteposer

Actually I agree with ever word of this post as well.

#36 | Posted by Effeteposer

Will wonders ever cease? I agree with every word of this post.

Problem is, you people still believe he deserved to die. That's the problem.
#34 | Posted by boaz

Nope. I don't believe in violence and never have. Kirk didn't deserve to die for his opinions. No one does. Shooter needs to pay for his crime.

"Boaz are You in a Militia?"

For the first time today, I wondered that about my relative. He is ex-military and very religious (born again Christian). I don't know him to be racially intolerant, but he hates LGBTQ people and feminists.

Funny Gal, how you think your beloved left cannot be evil. Hilarious at best. This is your lefts doing. You can ignore it if you please.
#22 | Posted by boaz

What's funny is that I do admit the left can be wrong, but my RW relative refuses to admit any wrongdoing by the right. His belief is that the left is violent, but the right is not. The right is all-good, following God's plan. Everything that is wrong with this country comes from the left.

Oh, yes, I feel it's going to get people arrested, disappeared and killed.

More people I mean.

I feel fear and despair. I feel the country is terminally broken. I also feel the unleasing of Project 2025, the imperial presidency, and a conservative MAGA authoritarianism is preceding as planned.

Based on what I am hearing and seeing online, I wouldn't be surprised it the RW militias are busy planning some kind of revenge for Kirk, and the FBI, which has be significantly dismantled, is no longer looking into RW domestic terrorism.

According to a RW relative, the liberal mindset is evil, destroying this country, will no longer be tolerated and will be destroyed. I asked him what he saw for the future? A civil war? He didn't answer.

Use your words, or even some other humans words.
#25 | Posted by oneironaut

Corky, you could use Brian Kilmeade's words. Although I'm not sure he's human. See #27.

Well, that settles it. We need to round up all the trans people and put them in camps.
-Bluewaffles.
#16 | Posted by Alexandrite

Maybe they'll give them the same treatment they have planned for the homeless: prison, mental institutions or involuntary lethal injection. Or something. Just kill them.

"the Feds are scraping the Discord network of Transgenders servers in UVU area. Many of them posted days before about something happening, with a "grin"."

Link?

The right will only see the shooter's hatred for Kirk, and if the shooter was angry about the treatment of transgender people, they will never admit how Kirk's/their own hatred for transgender people played a role. The right is basically out to eliminate transgender people both literally and figuratively. It's like that old Dylan song said: "When you ain't got nothin,g you aint got nothing to lose." I have to hand it to the right though, they really do have sequence of who to vilify and eliminate down to the most devastating and evil process. Start with transgender people and immigrants, move up to the homeless and disabled, branch out to political opponents (start with the most radical), move on to other LGBTQ people, etc.

There isn't going to be a Civil War like the first one. Trump is going to escalate his authoritarian power grab, using the law enforcement apparatus in the country accompanied by the RW militias, whose leaders he set free with his 1/6 pardons. And don't call it a civil war; it's a conservative revolution:

Leader of the pro-Trump Project 2025 suggests there will be a new American Revolution

Kevin Roberts said the revolution will be bloodless "if the left allows it to be."

Democrats are "apoplectic right now" because the right is winning, Roberts told former U.S. Rep. Dave Brat, one of the podcast's guest hosts as Bannon is serving a four-month prison term. "And so I come full circle on this response and just want to encourage you with some substance that we are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be."

700,000 Americans died in the first Civil War. 2.5% of the population at that time. If a comparable number of Americans died in a second Civil War, AI tells me that would be between 6 and 10 million or more. My guess it would be more. Much more. Why would any patriotic American want that?