but I guess it's too much to expect people to quote his "lie" accurately.
it's necessary to embellish, much like Trump.
That just makes them similar to Trump....which is quite funny really.

#19 | Posted by eberly

I agree with you completely. And feel you are completely justified calling out the exaggeration.

His story sounds to me like it is full of crap and he is trying to steal some valor. That should be enough in itself.

I know I have said before, responding to Trumpers, that if you have to lie it means you know your argument is weak.

Eb, it seems to me that a lot of people are piling into you just because they generally disagree with you, and don't like you because you have the temerity to disagree with them.

But, to me, they are making themselves look like idiots, are really no better than Trump himself.

The American government is an honor system, King Dotard has no honor.

#4 | Posted by TFDNihilist

It really isn't. It was built with checks and balances, meant to be able to survive people like Donald Trump.

But it assumed that the branches would check each other's power. What they did not anticipate was the spinelessness of today's conservatives, and Republican party.

The American government is an honor system, King Dotard has no honor.

#4 | Posted by TFDNihilist

It really isn't. It was built with checks and balances, meant to be able to survive people like Donald Trump.

But it assumed that the branches would check each other's power. What they did not anticipate was the spinelessness of today's conservatives, and Republican party.

The American government is an honor system, King Dotard has no honor.

#4 | Posted by TFDNihilist

It really isn't. It was built with checks and balances, meant to be able to survive people like Donald Trump.

But it assumed that the branches would check each other's power. What they did not anticipate was the spinelessness of today's conservatives, and Republican party.

The American government is an honor system, King Dotard has no honor.

#4 | Posted by TFDNihilist

It really isn't. It was built with checks and balances, meant to be able to survive people like Donald Trump.

But it assumed that the branches would check each other's power. What they did not anticipate was the spinelessness of today's conservatives, and Republican party.

Honestly, I would be more surprised from a MAGA person not being abusive to women.

But how many here supported Obama when US took 60% of GM?
Did anyone here call Obama a fascist?
I doubt it. That being said government getting involved in private business is never a good thing

#4 | Posted by oneironaut

How much of GM does the US government now own?

I was mostly fine with how they handled the bailouts under the circumstances at the time, though I also agree there were valid criticisms and concerns. At that point, with the state of the economy that Bush left him, there were just bad options all around.

But he also unwound the government ownership of businesses that he initiated. Which made me feel a lot better about it.

Now you do Trump. What emergency was he addressing that you feel justifies the socialist/communist/fascist government ownership of the means of production?

What is his plan for unwinding the socialism/communism/fascism that he put in place? Or is his socialism/communism/fascism intended to be permanent?

"Markwayne Mullin says officers could be deployed if there is a threat to that polling place or we're serving a warrant'"

This is "Immigration and Customs Enforcement", right? So what "threats" are they concerned about? Immigration "threats" to the safety of the polling place? Customs threats to the safety of the polling place?

I would love for ANY Republican here to explain to me what immigrations or customs threats there might be directed at polling places that are not just as easily handled by local law enforcement.

Because if no one here can give an answer, then the only other reason ICE would be at a polling place is intimidation.

NO ONE who violates immigration law is innocent.

#16 | Posted by lfthndthrds

They are innocent until proven guilty, at least if you have American values. Were these people proven guilty of violating immigration law by a jury of their peers? Because I do not see where any of the people mentioned here were CONVICTED of a crime.

I'm criticizing how the reporting for this was conducted. It was half-ass. The allegations might be true. They also might be fabricated. NYT simply ran with the allegations.

#6 | Posted by BellRinger

How would it be corroborated?

ICE has refused to allow our elected representatives access to their facilities. I don't see you being outraged over that.

So your criticisms just seem like deflections. "This story has not been corroborated" at the same time as you support ICE making it impossible for accusations like this to be corroborated.

Their lack of transparency and history of coverups is the reason why I lean towards believing accusations against them. They could solve that problem by being transparent, like any honest government organizations should be. They CHOOSE not to be transparent. And, in fact, the CHOOSE to be as opaque as possible.

The fact that you support them from a position of ignorance really just makes you look like a sycophant.

So we are deporting immigrants in order to bring in different immigrants (or maybe even the same ones) and pay them a lower wage?

Competing in the land of old brick ovens? Must be good pizza.

#6 | Posted by sitzkrieg

And in NYC. I love going to NYC because the food is so good. Because it has to be. You can probably find another 20 places to eat just by walking another block. Capitalism (or, at least, competitive markets) at its finest. If your food is not good, you don't last long.

#18 | Posted by gtbritishskull
Beverley's a fuggin moron...

#27 | Posted by Angrydad

Not helpful. And he offered a mea culpa, which is more than you would get from 99% of posters on here, liberal or conservative.

Which is why I respect him, even if we may disagree on politics.

To be clear, I am completely opposed to the US government owning private companies. That it should only be done during an emergency, and then should be wound down like Obama did. While I think "socialism" like paid family leave is good for our society, I think the "socialism" where the government owns private businesses is bad for our society.

Can the "conservatives" here say the same thing? Because I have an inkling that they are all closet socialists.

Republicans are more socialist than most Democrats. Republicans are in favor of, and actually implemented, public ownership of private businesses (Intel, Westinghouse, US Steel). Obama took stakes in companies during the financial crisis, but then EXITED those stakes (moved away from socialism). Trump has absolutely no plans to exit the public ownership of private companies. And has been adding more and more over time.

I learned how to use tools and equipment as a youngster.
I still went to college and pursued a white collar career.
Learning how to use that stuff isn't sentencing someone to a trade. It's helpful in developing kids, just like reading classical literature.
Is that too hard for folks like ---- to understand?
Maybe it's because ---- never learned how to use a pipe wrench?

#4 | Posted by eberly

Did you RTFA?

"BASH: One of the things that's happening is there's a push to start students down a trade school track as early as elementary school. Is that too early?

LINDA McMAHON: I don't think so

BASH: But elementary school?

McMAHON: I think you can have some introduction of skilled trades in elementary school"

The question was about a "push to start students down a trade school track" but she (and you apparently?) chose to deflect from answering that question and instead present the strawman of "introduce skilled trades".

I don't think anyone has a problem with introducing skilled trades at an early age, to everyone. What it seems to me they have a problem with is selecting students at a young age and putting them on a "skilled trades track". The selection criteria being based on... probably their income level and race? (though no one would admit to it, it would just "happen to turn out that way" based on their completely unbiased Trump administration approved criteria), because it doesn't seem to me like judging their future academic capabilities at that point would be all that reliable.

So not only did you choose to throw your weight behind a strawman, but you doubled down on it with ad hominem attacks when it was questioned.

Eb, I respect you and opinions, and I know you are better than this. ;)

The MRNA Covid vaccine is documented to have killed more than it saved in populations that not at risk from Covid but got the vaccine anyway.

#8 | Posted by visitor_

It is documented? Could you please share that documentation?

FYI:
AI Overview The U.S. Navy started naming aircraft carriers after presidents in 1945, with the commissioning of the USS Franklin D. Roosevelt (CVB-42).

#8 | Posted by MSgt

Can you tell me when the Navy started naming aircraft carriers after sitting presidents?

Let me answer that for you... they never have before, and I am really opposed to them starting now.

But it takes assets to repay the loans.

#36 | Posted by Danforth

When you die and your assets (like stocks) get passed to your heirs the basis gets "stepped up". So if you were to those stocks are sold the day before you die, then you have to pay taxes on the gains. But if your heirs sell them the day they inherit them, they owe no taxes. So they can sell whatever is necessary to pay off the loans with the results that no taxes are paid.

Then, as those assets the heirs inherited appreciate, those heirs can fund their lifestyle with loans (backed by those assets) and pay no taxes until they die. Then their heirs sell enough assets to pay off the loans, paying no taxes in the process, and the cycle continues.

That is how the rich can pay no taxes, how the system is rigged in their favor.

Why should States feel the need to protect their legitimate citizen voters from immigration authorities?
#5 | Posted by john_savage2

Has ICE detained or killed any American citizens?

The answer is yes.

The question is why Republicans are ok with ICE detaining and killing American citizens. And also why they would be ok with things like that interfering in our elections.

Right, and you also said Hunter is a model citizen.

#10 | Posted by fishpaw

I don't know of ANYONE saying Hunter Biden was a model citizen.

People lie when they know they their position is indefensible.

Do you want to provide a link to prove your assertion, to show that you are not a liar?

#28 | Posted by reinheitsgebot

"It's easy to quit smoking. I've done it a thousand times."

You ------- dumbasses wouldn't care either way.... ---- you

#8 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Yep, I don't care.

I just think it is interesting that you do care... but selectively.

In the Trump didn't molest any kids but Fauci's recommendations killed thousands of them.

#19 | Posted by visitor_

He punched a 13 year old girl who bit his ---- after he tried to force her to suck it.

"The FBI summaries state the alleged victim recalls being introduced to Trump who immediately disliked her because she was a "boy-girl" " meaning a tomboy. She claims when left alone in a room with him, Trump said "Let me teach you how little girls are supposed to be", unzipped his pants and forced her head down to his penis.[260] The report says she then immediately "bit the ---- out of it", and that in response he "pulled her hair and punched her on the side of the head". Trump said something to the effect of "get this little bitch the hell out of here" and kicked her out.[259] She told the FBI she bit him because he "disgusted" her."